Does anyone have liberal friends that speak to you like you are an abject retard? How do you deal with it without going full bore asshole? I am tired of it. When I speak truth I am treated like a nut.. when I fire back with do you really think Oswald killed Kennedy.. I get a no. How do yinz deal with this bullshit with grace?
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My red pilling with her is like making a horse saddle wise... you don’t break them, you make them saddle wise. I do get the mind turning when I state a fact in the form of a question... the funny thing is, as much as I am treated like an next retard, I am the first one to be called for a question... sugar cubes work better than brick bats, but it is a long hard road...
Abject... stupid spell check
Babe, it is not possible to red pill them... they look at you like you are a retard if you say it is like tits on a bull... they have no idea what you are talking about
This is very true. I would not tolerate a discussion about the 666 other genders, let alone a constant stream of “red pilling” efforts to convince me.
That is one of the issues... an atheist Jew... hard nut to crack...
People who disrespect you are not your friends.
I walk away.
Sarcasm always works for me when dealing with extremely uneducated, unintelligent people. When they say that I am a nut, retarded, crazy, etc. I would reply back and say, 'If I am considered that, I'd hate to see what names would best describe you in your state of mind.' Also, you can tell them, 'Thankfully since I only respect and listen to intelligent and like minded people, your opinion means absolutely nothing to me.'
Basically show them that you don't give a damn with what a basic boob like them thinks.
I've been trying to red pill an ultra brainwashed former leftist friend of mine. I've sent her loads of "coincidences" and hypocrisies that the left commits, including Biden back in October saying that excessive EOs are a sign of "dictatorship" and then sent her an image comparing the number of Biden's EOs the first week in office compared to Trump, Obammy, Bushy, Killton, etc. She got so mad at me and said she didn't want to discuss politics, even though back in 2016 she screamed and cried about how Trump won and he would ruin everything. She seemed okay with talking (or rather, crying) about politics back then. But now when I point out what's happening she doesn't want to think about it.
She doesn't want to think for half a moment that she was wrong, but I'm praying for her mind to be opened up to the truth.
We must have the same friend!
I just look at them and say "I see that you aren't ready yet".
Then walk away.
It defines the issue... and later, if they learn that they've been lied to for years and discover part of the truth... they will understand that they weren't ready yet.
This is the way?
I say the following: So let me get this straight, you believe in God, but you think that he wanted you to protect yourself from a virus with a diaper on your face that denies you the oxygen he gave you. Yeah your faith is real strong, I bet he appreciates that. Then walk away.
Puts them in a weird corner that they don't know what to do with. It also has the benefit of being entirely true.
I just cut loose my liberal friends. Its hard they had great qualities. As we got older beliefs changed and couldn't see eye to eye. Trying to show them the government is trying to screw us and they just think I'm crazy. One also voted for biden just cause he wasn't trump but voted red the rest of the ticket I about back handed him.
The official story for Kennedy was that Oswald fired one bullet and it went in and out of Kennedy and TX governor 7 times. Does anyone believe that shit?
And I’m a pretty fair person but I’m just about to cut off every liberal from social fellowship. You’re either conservative or you’re wrong and I’m not going to allow people to be wrong around me much longer.
This times 1000 ??????
Treat people like they treat you... if you and a lefty friend cannot "agree to disagree" to maintain the friendship, then they've already stopped being your friend.
Cut them loose before they cause strife in your life, because that's all they will ever do.
Thank Yinz for confirming... I try really hard to show grace... I am stuck between showing grace and screaming fuck you I was right:.. Pandora’s box has not opened up enough till rub their nose in shit and I feel frustration.
U cannot force truth. They have to be ready to accept it or willing to at least hear it to discern. Agree to not talk about it in person ( for now ), but let them know at some point down the road they will see what you were trying to tell them. Remind them to remember who was trying to help them when everyone else was lying to them.
Libs are often volatile so maybe just send them info via emails with tiny red pills here and there. I tried texting a few too but can get out of hand quick. Whatever u do keep it's small since they are literally like children in this regard.
Ask them to send you stuff too so they feel like u are listening and it's an exchange. Been doing this with a few now. I just trash their shit tho tbh because of their sources.
U can also send them a list of sites to stay away from and a list of ones to consider. Maybe in secret they will start venturing out from their standard kool aid stands.
Good luck.
We're all gonna see what kind of people our libs F & F truly are at some point. Will they admit they wrong or misled OR will they cower and hide for being so wrong and treating us like the enemies ?
I guess I am here trying to make sense of the disconnect... she screams for gun control... I ask her how she would feel if a rapist broke into my house and I put 5 to the chest... she said she is happy that I was not raped but does not like guns... she really is a sweet girl but,,, the disconnect is messing with my mind... Maybe she grew up city and I grew up mountain holler.
Best one I’ve heard is it’s like giving medicine to a dead person. I have 3 hard core liberal before 2015 and now I rarely talk to any them. One is a neigbor that I am forced to be pleasant with, but honestly I get so creeped out they actually voted for that wierdo xiden (after screaming about Russia for 4 years).
Hey Fren, unfortuantely, I really can't advise you with that. However, I'd like to share this because I think it could be useful for you in dealing with some of these types of friends. It's a 10.5 minute video that really opened my eyes and shook me out of my naivete. It's not political, so it's not threatening to those with TDS and the like. Basically, it shows people how media, government, corporations, etc. can do such a convincing job of making something appear absolutely real, even when it's not. Please watch it and see if you think it will help with some of your friends. It may open their eyes enough to start questioning things and maybe, just maybe, they'll finally get it. Good luck!
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/03/14/sharyl_attkisson_gives_ted_talk_on_astroturf_and_manipulation_of_media_messages.html
I am reminded of something my dad (a retired CPO) would say,"I can fix what stupid does, but I can't fix stupid"...
when I post something they cant strawman, they go back to playing games, they dont bother replying
They are intellectually wedded to a broken worldview. You can't save them without herculean effort. They think talking retarded circles around you is "outwitting" you even though their premises are rooted in a number of logical fallacies.
You get new friends because those friends will call the gestapo on you at some point.
She knows better.. she knows that is the hill I will die on.. she is dumb but not evil.
Anti-Trump is Pro-Pedophile.
Not sure this is going to work for everyone, but without being overly aggressive, I try and show them the actual proof to their faces whether it be videos, documents, articles etc. If they resist and say they don't need to see it or don't want to I then say something like:
"why not? Are you that afraid of the truth or are you afraid of being wrong? It is okay to be wrong I know I have been wrong in the past and I admit it. I am not here to rub this in your face and mock you, I am presenting this to you so that you can think for yourself and stop being manipulated by the MSM because I care about you and they think you and every other citizen is a useful idiot."
Something along those lines. It is mature, it takes the noble/respectful highroad without stooping down to their level and is sincere in its intention. They just may be willing to listen to you. It partially worked for my libtard 18 yr old brother. It obviously didn't fully convert him but it made serious conversation possible without emotional explosions. I can now slip little red pills in conversations and peek his curiosity enough for him to start exploring on his own on the dl.
My liberal friends just ignore me when I drop witty gems about what’s really going on so I don’t know if they just don’t know what the hell I’m talking about or if they think I’m a “dangerous QAnon” but I don’t let it ruin a long term friendship and neither do they. My bro and SIL, on the other hand, will be the first to report me to the gulag.
Do the exact same back to them but in a much more polite and friendly way. You can still get across that they're being talked down to.
I just go full blown autist until I get bored then tell them I gotta go take care of more important things xD
Talk enough truth that you end up with liberal friends that can respect your intelligence because you've displayed critical thinking and depth of thought, even if they don't share the same conclusions.
Who are we kidding, that'll never happen, you'll just end up with no liberal friends, which maybe is just as good if not better.
Start with something easily provable, and then ask them "why". "Why" is the question that I think most of us tried to answer which led us to where we are.
The most recent example: during the impeachment, they showed a tweet that they added the Blue Checkmark to the user's account--and that person came out and confirmed they never had the Verified checkmark.
So.. WHY. Why would the dems go through the effort, small as it may be, of doctoring that to add the verified mark? What's the point?
Possibly, to try to add some weight or credence to their argument. They needed it to paint the narrative that they wanted to paint. "See this super important verified person said this" versus "this no-name person said this." But, they still lied, in making that alteration. Why is the narrative that important? What else are they fabricating, and misleading you about, for the purpose of reinforcing their narrative?
..and down the rabbit hole you go.
Sounds like someone's either in or from the greater Pittsburgh metropolitan area, haha.
Not Pittsburg,,, but central PA