BREAKING: South Carolina passes bill that bans nearly all abortions.
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Seems like an ideal law. Still allows early term abortions and makes us accountable for later term abortions.
I see no issues with this approach.
Yeah no shit.
Crazy how people wanted to peddle the idea of unmitigated baby killing as "reasonable".
Ehh both sides don't want to reach the obvious middle ground that South Carolina did. Both sides share some, though obviously nowhere near equal, blame for how hard it is to meet in the middle on this issue.
SC definitely did the ideal thing. Some people will grumble at any abortion at all, some will grumble at any restrictions, but honestly the law is as perfectly targeted as the issue is going to get.
First heartbeat or rape/incest/danger. Otherwise no abortion. Sounds like a true middle ground between ideals.
You're right on this. There will always be people who think that all abortion is murder, and there will always be those who think that we are one step away from Handmaid's Tale.
Bills like this cross the middle ground and give both sides something they want. Good job South Carolina!
Most women aren't aware they're pregnant even at the 5-6 week mark.
You could...you know....google the answer?
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/when-does-a-fetus-have-a-heartbeat
If you're going to contest something, at least have a clue what your position actually is.
Thanks hon. Right before reading your helpful comment, I decided to search it and found out the heart of an embryo starts to beat from around five to six weeks of pregnancy. So, you are correct! Well done.
The human fetal heart begins to beat at 22 days post conception (3 weeks). But we date the pregnancy from the first day of the woman's last menstrual cycle, usually about 2 weeks prior to conception. Thus, the lay advice that the heart beat is heard at 5-6 weeks into the pregnancy. I worked in a free pregnancy clinic and did early ultrasounds to confirm pregnancy, so I have a little extra experience here.
No it isn’t. It still legalizes murder. Abortion is murder. It’s a proven scientific fact that a new human organism is created at conception. Either you believe all human organisms are created with equal inherent rights, or you believe our rights are merely arbitrarily granted by whoever happens to be in power over us based on arbitrary criteria such as race, gender, age, location, mental/physical abilities, etc.
As for exceptions, there are none that should be tolerated. No child deserves the death penalty for the crimes of their rapist father.
Also, killing your preborn son/daughter because your health is at risk is like murdering your teenage son/daughter because you need to harvest their organs for a transplant to save your life.
if a mother cannot survive the pregnancy then who will care for the child, the government? nobody?
if this were the wild and a child is born to a dead mother, both baby and mother die. we can afford to save one of them in our society.
get real
Lots of children die natural deaths after birth too. That’s life. It’s not justified to murder a human being just because they might be a burden on others or not live the quality of life up to the expectations of others.
Also, the cases where a baby must be murdered in order to save the mother are pretty much nonexistent. Every time a mother has gone against the advice of their doctor and refused to murder their child, the mother lived anyway.
Would you murder your teenage son in order to harvest their heart because you needed a heart transplant to save your life?
You are the king of bad analogues.
If danger to the mother is so rare, then it's truly not worth getting bothered over.
However, I will grant that this needs to be followed with serious consequences for doctors who try to cheat this by falsely diagnosing something to get around the restriction.
That's not true. At conception the organism lacks every single trait that would qualify one as human.
How about option 3 - All human beings have equal rights.
I don't consider a collection of DNA and chromosomes to be a human being even if it has to potential to be one.
It's not a child at 3 weeks.
Uh...what?
Wrong. Science has disproven your personal opinion. “Human” refers to our species, which is defined by our DNA. There’s a biological definition of “organism” that has several criteria, and human zygotes are confirmed with technology such as electron microscopes to be human organisms.
If we go by random opinions about what a human being is instead of the scientific definition, then people like you could once again argue that blacks or Jews are not actual human beings just like some currently do for preborn human organisms.
No it hasn't. Stop lying.
Human being actually.
Everytime you remove a part of your body that contains your DNA you aren't destroying a unique entity, are you?
That which makes people.....people...is more than a genetic series of codecs. Humans form into beings, which is why you aren't automatically a person upon conception.
I didn't say human, you did.
I said human being.
Pay attention.
You're an idiot. Nothing that has been said separates race from humanity.
But Wikipedia says....
And here you deduct a human to be nothing but made of cells with no soul. Meaning just physical (which is determinism) and no soul (non-physical entity). This is just pure nonsense and evil. We know that there exist more than just this physical realm that there is something beyond it. A body doesn't have a soul until after birth. Science only goes as far as measuring what is in this physical world. It cannot study consciousness because the soul exist in the non-physical realm, affecting what is in the physical realm.
I never said I don’t believe human beings have souls. Quit assuming random BS and putting words in my mouth.