He never flew. Not on any known records. Virginia Guiffre worked at MarALago. Before Epstein. According to the author James Patterson, a member of MarALago, Trump banned Epstein circa 1999 or 2000 for inappropriate behavior toward another members child. Lots of pics and events, but Epstein had pictures with, literally everybody. I always figured Epstein plays into Trump knowing what these psychos are up to with kids. Imagine, GEOTUS was the only sober guy in the room for like 45 years. Lol...45.
I kept thinking more about the behaviors he witnessed as people took liberties with their alcohol inhibitions, but that too lol. A wealth of information. I wonder if he had recording devices on his own properties that overheard conversations as well.
I just read how Trump cooperated with the investigators during the first trial and he voluntarily went. There is no record of Trump on the island or flightlogs. He did share a flight with a nephew I think of Epstein for N.C. to NY maybe. He banned Epstein from Mar-a-lago. I just read this last night but don't have a link. Should be able to search to get it.
Flight logs do indicate he did catch flight from Newark to Lauderdale. I believe 1999. I will have to look in my Google drive and post. His name appears only once.
You are correct and Trump addressed this. Trump said his plane was in for repairs and needed a lift. Epstein offered his plane for the trip to West Palm.
You can't prove a negative. But he can't prove that Trump WAS involved. And looking at how hard his administration went after child traffickers is pretty telling.
Think about how many people like Bill Cosby turn out to be rapists and how nobody had any idea. Perhaps Trump didn't learn about what Epstein was until later on? There is no way of knowing. So I look at his administration and where he stood on the issues.
We have solid proof of Biden sniffing girls and talking about loving it when little kids jump in his lap.........
Also, why do all the other people who flew on the jet and to the island hate trump and want him out? If he was guilty, along with them, then wouldn't they be happy about his presidency and pardoning powers?
And, why didn't any of these people arrest Epstein during their tenure (Clinton/Obama)?
You assume he points at a girl..could be someone or something else..you have a limit view compared to their view in real time.
And we dont know how long Trump has been working his social status to observe and gather Intel.
Trump was key to mob destruction in Atlantic city.
Theres something to dig on for you and your friend
He was the only person who cooperated with investigations when Epstien got his first "convection" for child molestation. He also had Epstien thrown out of and barred from Mar a largo for hitting on an underage girl. Use Duck Duck go and look it up. The info is out there.
Trump didn't go to the island. As very wealthy people, they sometimes moved in the same circles, were at the same parties, etc. Hence a couple of pictures. But Trump actually had Epstein barred from his Maralargo club several years back when Epstein made a move on the young daughter of an employee. Before that happened, Trump hitched a ride with him on E's private jet from Palm Beach (or some place in Florida) to NY. As someone else said, he also helped the lawyer of one of E's victims.
Well then. Think of it like this. I imagine we have all went to school?
I am guessing most of us at least went to parties and had pictures taken with people. In these pictures, we look like best friends but we could barely know the person other than just by name or association. Or maybe we do know them but not on a deep personal level.
Now imagine 30 years later, it turns out some person you took a picture with is a pedophile? Does that automatically make you a pedophile?
Because that seems to be the only argument these idiots have. He wasn't at the island. He kicked Epstein out of Mar a logo, and there is literally a video of him calling out Epstein island in 2015 before the big arrest was made.
If this co-worker still can't understand. Then it is officially time to move on and let them live in their fantasy world.
I was recently reading the files/articles about Trump cooperating to bring down organized crime in NYC/Atlantic City. One detail stuck out at me: the reading mentioned that these crime groups would invest in real estate to launder money.
That reminded me of another article I read weeks ago. Apparently (wish I could remember the source) Epstein was looking at a property in Palm Beach, and asked Trump to come look it over and advise. The when Epstein went to make an offer, it was already bought...by Trump. That obviously soured their acquaintance. ? But reading organized crime stuff made me wonder if he was intentionally putting an obstacle in the way of Epstein's real estate laundering. At the very least, it showed a great deal of disdain.
In high power social circles you meet many . You're socially polite. Having met anyone in these social circles which involve a multitude of peoples doesnt make you a friend or a party to that. Trump never flew w Epstien. As soon as Trump caught wind of Epstein going after a young female staffer at Marlago he kicked him out and barred him from his properties.
Knowing someone in high society is part n parcel of the scene.
Doesnt make them close.
Tell your coworker to dig n research off MSM.
Trump kicked him out of maralago for hitting on a young girl.
No
None
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Demand proof of trump's involvement with Epstein
Find that shit yourself
Find it yourself
Answered
No
Everything the Left is guilty if they project onto Donald J Trump. 40 million spent on an investigation into Trump during impeachment #1 = NADA GAME OVER (Also what they said, Good Luck!)
I have heard 2 stories. First one was that JE frequented Trump clubs and hotels and there was a complaint that was made about JE inappropriately touching a teenage daughter of one of the guests. Trump kicked JE out of all his clubs permanently. Second story was Trump flew to Epstein Island, saw what was happening there and took a chartered flight out as soon as he could. After that, he decided he was going to do everything he could to stop him.
Your first statement about Trump throwing out Epstein from Mar a Lago is correct, Epstein got drunk and was being inappropriate with a friend of Trump's daughter who was a minor. Trump was informed and Epstein was thrown out and banned from coming back to the resort.
IIRC Trump did fly on one of Epstein's jets, but never to Epstein Island, I can't remember the exact airports but something like Palm Beach Int to NY or similar.
And people point to the pictures involving Epstein and Trump at parties, and in Epstein's address book. Well of course he would be! Being a multi millionaire/billionaire means the same people go to the same parties, and included in telephone books. It does not mean they were best of friends tho!
The time the FBI approached Trump for information surrounding Epstein, there is an interview out there where the FBI say that Trump was the only person who got back to them and answered any questions they put to him. He also said he gave as much time as the FBI needed and cooperated fully.
I think it's fair to say Trump was never involved in anything going on at Epstein Island or his ranch on New Mexico. Yes they were at parties together in the earlier days, and that they sometimes had contact together. But was Trump involved in the dark shit of Epstein and many others, no!
Just remember that Trump had parties with many of the elite because it was expected of him due to his wealth and status. Yet, he never drank or took drugs. He knew them. He may well have been studying them all along. That doesn't mean he went to Epstein's Island. Trump even socialized with the Clintons and was invited to Chelsea's wedding. He gave money to Democrats and Republicans. He knew all of them.
That being said, Trump had parties at Mar A Lag O and there are pictures of Trump and Melanie with Epstein and Ghislane Maxwell. That picture is what everyone brings up and the one of Trump whispering into Epstein's ear. There is no evidence that he has flown on any plane to Epstein Island. And it was rumored Trump stopped socializing with Epstein and banned him from Mar-a-la-go after Epstein brought a young girl there.
I know he never drank, but he looked like he was on some energy boosting stuff if ya know what i mean at that party with the Buffalo Bills cheerleaders or whoever they were.
Check out the flight logs. Trump, Ivanka and another Trump were on one of his planes but according to the logs they were not going to the island. Trump disavowed Epstein soon after he met him. Trump doesn’t do children drugs or drink or smoke so no reason to be on a pedo island when he has his own 757, not a plain Lear jet to fly around on!
Trump is his own orbit. Epstein his own orbit. Sometimes orbits meet. Trump knew Jeffrey. Especially many years ago. I'm also paralegal. Have read every case which was brought against Trump. All dismissed without merit. According to flight logs Trump did catch flight from Newark to Ft Lauderdale. Never been to the Island as far as any evidence I have seen. Trump did start the investigation into Epstein this last time. Even agreed to testify if needed.
I've had a question i haven't put the proper time into plunging down the rabbit hole on and maybe someone here knows... What is the story of FLOTUS. How did her and DJT meet? Could it have been possible that she was being trafficked? If so, she could be sort of like the Biblical character Esther. Read Esther 1-2:17. Yes 2:17 is interesting. What if she being trafficked got 45 to be a type of human savior to the world?
Thank you. Whatever I've found is worthless fluff for amusement. I am just beginning to figure out internet research too. POTUS seems to have a great relationship with her and "watch the wives" is generally a negative comment but I just wonder if there is more to her than we know. Also, the question of "why would Trump give up his life for this country?" I'm not looking for some negative pictures, those are there, I just know what a good marriage will do for a guy. She seems to be right out in front of the camera and compared to her husband who is very outspoken, rather quiet.
Give him what we gave you and tell him to look it up on Duck Duck. Tell him to get back to you with proof that this info is not true. Now the onus is on him .
Seems to be the new spin. Trump is “Epstein friend” cause we have one photo of them (ignore the linn wood drop) and be amazed at the crazies who think the friend of Epstein is saving the world from pedes. Oh and from the apocalypse. https://archive.vn/nXSSe
Like comparing someone who discusses grabbing pussy to one who does. And ignoring the latter. Sick people projecting and trying to distract from the declas.
If Trump had been involved, Mueller would have found it and it would have been dragged on for years 24/7.
The best they ever found: grab 'm by the pussy.
Then there is another angle to consider. Just leveling a suspicion does not make a person guilty. You need proof positive. That is how it works in a country that has a 4th amendment.
Use logical thinking.
You really have a chance to school your "normie" ignoramus.
Every. Single. Epstein. Flight log. Celebrity. Politician. Mogul. Scientist. Etc. Despises. Donald. Trump. And shows it constantly. They have tried everything to gin up hatred of him, and even to remove him from office constantly.
If he truly was a pedophile, and if that's what happened on the island/jet, then why WOULD they NOT be happy that he is the president? You are telling me that he is the 1 guy, who never flew to the island, who went to the island? They all went there, and we know just based on court docs that orgies with minors and other sex trafficking related activities, along with symbolism that suggests the practicing of ancient Pagan human sacrifice rituals. We also know that the Clinton's didn't just travel there by epstein jet, they also traveled by helicopter because Ghislaine got a pilot's license. And we know that there were pictures of naked minors in sexual positions on the walls of the living quarters on the island. If a former president at least sees illegal pictures of naked minors at someone's house and says nothing about it then isn't that a big problem (Clinton's/Gore's)? This is all in official evidence.
Why would they not be rejoicing that one of their guilty co-pedophiles was president, that he could pardon them in exchange for their silence? And why would his admin arrest more human traffickers and pedos than ever before?
Lawyer For Epstein Victim Says Trump Was “Only” High Powered Person Who Helped Him
https://summit.news/2019/07/08/lawyer-for-epstein-victim-says-trump-was-only-high-powered-person-who-helped-him/
There's a video interview with the lawyer who tells the interviewer that Trump was the only person willing to cooperate with the investigation.
He never flew. Not on any known records. Virginia Guiffre worked at MarALago. Before Epstein. According to the author James Patterson, a member of MarALago, Trump banned Epstein circa 1999 or 2000 for inappropriate behavior toward another members child. Lots of pics and events, but Epstein had pictures with, literally everybody. I always figured Epstein plays into Trump knowing what these psychos are up to with kids. Imagine, GEOTUS was the only sober guy in the room for like 45 years. Lol...45.
I always think about that sober part too...
I kept thinking more about the behaviors he witnessed as people took liberties with their alcohol inhibitions, but that too lol. A wealth of information. I wonder if he had recording devices on his own properties that overheard conversations as well.
I just read how Trump cooperated with the investigators during the first trial and he voluntarily went. There is no record of Trump on the island or flightlogs. He did share a flight with a nephew I think of Epstein for N.C. to NY maybe. He banned Epstein from Mar-a-lago. I just read this last night but don't have a link. Should be able to search to get it.
Flight logs do indicate he did catch flight from Newark to Lauderdale. I believe 1999. I will have to look in my Google drive and post. His name appears only once.
You are correct and Trump addressed this. Trump said his plane was in for repairs and needed a lift. Epstein offered his plane for the trip to West Palm.
You can't prove a negative. But he can't prove that Trump WAS involved. And looking at how hard his administration went after child traffickers is pretty telling.
Think about how many people like Bill Cosby turn out to be rapists and how nobody had any idea. Perhaps Trump didn't learn about what Epstein was until later on? There is no way of knowing. So I look at his administration and where he stood on the issues.
We have solid proof of Biden sniffing girls and talking about loving it when little kids jump in his lap.........
Also, why do all the other people who flew on the jet and to the island hate trump and want him out? If he was guilty, along with them, then wouldn't they be happy about his presidency and pardoning powers?
And, why didn't any of these people arrest Epstein during their tenure (Clinton/Obama)?
Bingo.
Demand proof he was involved and call him a conspiracy theorist
Yes.
Trumps name isn't on the flight logs to the island. Virginia Roberts Giuffre, one of the victims, gave testimony that Trump never visited the island.
You assume he points at a girl..could be someone or something else..you have a limit view compared to their view in real time. And we dont know how long Trump has been working his social status to observe and gather Intel. Trump was key to mob destruction in Atlantic city. Theres something to dig on for you and your friend
Footage from that party shows him dancing with and getting cozy with grown women who wanted to party with a recently divorced billionaire.
That party was with grown ass women who wanted to party with a recently-divorced rich guy.
He was the only person who cooperated with investigations when Epstien got his first "convection" for child molestation. He also had Epstien thrown out of and barred from Mar a largo for hitting on an underage girl. Use Duck Duck go and look it up. The info is out there.
Trump didn't go to the island. As very wealthy people, they sometimes moved in the same circles, were at the same parties, etc. Hence a couple of pictures. But Trump actually had Epstein barred from his Maralargo club several years back when Epstein made a move on the young daughter of an employee. Before that happened, Trump hitched a ride with him on E's private jet from Palm Beach (or some place in Florida) to NY. As someone else said, he also helped the lawyer of one of E's victims.
Your co worker clearly lacks any critical thinking skills. Give up and move on.
Then walk him out of the cave with your logic and rhetoric.
Well then. Think of it like this. I imagine we have all went to school?
I am guessing most of us at least went to parties and had pictures taken with people. In these pictures, we look like best friends but we could barely know the person other than just by name or association. Or maybe we do know them but not on a deep personal level.
Now imagine 30 years later, it turns out some person you took a picture with is a pedophile? Does that automatically make you a pedophile?
Because that seems to be the only argument these idiots have. He wasn't at the island. He kicked Epstein out of Mar a logo, and there is literally a video of him calling out Epstein island in 2015 before the big arrest was made.
If this co-worker still can't understand. Then it is officially time to move on and let them live in their fantasy world.
Trump stated back then, that Epstein's island getaway was "a cesspool"
I was recently reading the files/articles about Trump cooperating to bring down organized crime in NYC/Atlantic City. One detail stuck out at me: the reading mentioned that these crime groups would invest in real estate to launder money.
That reminded me of another article I read weeks ago. Apparently (wish I could remember the source) Epstein was looking at a property in Palm Beach, and asked Trump to come look it over and advise. The when Epstein went to make an offer, it was already bought...by Trump. That obviously soured their acquaintance. ? But reading organized crime stuff made me wonder if he was intentionally putting an obstacle in the way of Epstein's real estate laundering. At the very least, it showed a great deal of disdain.
In high power social circles you meet many . You're socially polite. Having met anyone in these social circles which involve a multitude of peoples doesnt make you a friend or a party to that. Trump never flew w Epstien. As soon as Trump caught wind of Epstein going after a young female staffer at Marlago he kicked him out and barred him from his properties. Knowing someone in high society is part n parcel of the scene. Doesnt make them close. Tell your coworker to dig n research off MSM.
Trump kicked him out of maralago for hitting on a young girl. No None No Demand proof of trump's involvement with Epstein Find that shit yourself Find it yourself Answered No
Everything the Left is guilty if they project onto Donald J Trump. 40 million spent on an investigation into Trump during impeachment #1 = NADA GAME OVER (Also what they said, Good Luck!)
I have heard 2 stories. First one was that JE frequented Trump clubs and hotels and there was a complaint that was made about JE inappropriately touching a teenage daughter of one of the guests. Trump kicked JE out of all his clubs permanently. Second story was Trump flew to Epstein Island, saw what was happening there and took a chartered flight out as soon as he could. After that, he decided he was going to do everything he could to stop him.
Your first statement about Trump throwing out Epstein from Mar a Lago is correct, Epstein got drunk and was being inappropriate with a friend of Trump's daughter who was a minor. Trump was informed and Epstein was thrown out and banned from coming back to the resort.
IIRC Trump did fly on one of Epstein's jets, but never to Epstein Island, I can't remember the exact airports but something like Palm Beach Int to NY or similar.
And people point to the pictures involving Epstein and Trump at parties, and in Epstein's address book. Well of course he would be! Being a multi millionaire/billionaire means the same people go to the same parties, and included in telephone books. It does not mean they were best of friends tho!
The time the FBI approached Trump for information surrounding Epstein, there is an interview out there where the FBI say that Trump was the only person who got back to them and answered any questions they put to him. He also said he gave as much time as the FBI needed and cooperated fully.
I think it's fair to say Trump was never involved in anything going on at Epstein Island or his ranch on New Mexico. Yes they were at parties together in the earlier days, and that they sometimes had contact together. But was Trump involved in the dark shit of Epstein and many others, no!
Thanks for clearing that up for me. Good to know.
Just remember that Trump had parties with many of the elite because it was expected of him due to his wealth and status. Yet, he never drank or took drugs. He knew them. He may well have been studying them all along. That doesn't mean he went to Epstein's Island. Trump even socialized with the Clintons and was invited to Chelsea's wedding. He gave money to Democrats and Republicans. He knew all of them.
That being said, Trump had parties at Mar A Lag O and there are pictures of Trump and Melanie with Epstein and Ghislane Maxwell. That picture is what everyone brings up and the one of Trump whispering into Epstein's ear. There is no evidence that he has flown on any plane to Epstein Island. And it was rumored Trump stopped socializing with Epstein and banned him from Mar-a-la-go after Epstein brought a young girl there.
I know he never drank, but he looked like he was on some energy boosting stuff if ya know what i mean at that party with the Buffalo Bills cheerleaders or whoever they were.
Check out the flight logs. Trump, Ivanka and another Trump were on one of his planes but according to the logs they were not going to the island. Trump disavowed Epstein soon after he met him. Trump doesn’t do children drugs or drink or smoke so no reason to be on a pedo island when he has his own 757, not a plain Lear jet to fly around on!
Trump is his own orbit. Epstein his own orbit. Sometimes orbits meet. Trump knew Jeffrey. Especially many years ago. I'm also paralegal. Have read every case which was brought against Trump. All dismissed without merit. According to flight logs Trump did catch flight from Newark to Ft Lauderdale. Never been to the Island as far as any evidence I have seen. Trump did start the investigation into Epstein this last time. Even agreed to testify if needed.
I've had a question i haven't put the proper time into plunging down the rabbit hole on and maybe someone here knows... What is the story of FLOTUS. How did her and DJT meet? Could it have been possible that she was being trafficked? If so, she could be sort of like the Biblical character Esther. Read Esther 1-2:17. Yes 2:17 is interesting. What if she being trafficked got 45 to be a type of human savior to the world?
Thank you. Whatever I've found is worthless fluff for amusement. I am just beginning to figure out internet research too. POTUS seems to have a great relationship with her and "watch the wives" is generally a negative comment but I just wonder if there is more to her than we know. Also, the question of "why would Trump give up his life for this country?" I'm not looking for some negative pictures, those are there, I just know what a good marriage will do for a guy. She seems to be right out in front of the camera and compared to her husband who is very outspoken, rather quiet.
Thanks, again. The lies and false narratives are so annoying. No wonder the normies are so lulled to sleep with the overwhelming propaganda.
Give him what we gave you and tell him to look it up on Duck Duck. Tell him to get back to you with proof that this info is not true. Now the onus is on him .
Seems to be the new spin. Trump is “Epstein friend” cause we have one photo of them (ignore the linn wood drop) and be amazed at the crazies who think the friend of Epstein is saving the world from pedes. Oh and from the apocalypse. https://archive.vn/nXSSe
Like comparing someone who discusses grabbing pussy to one who does. And ignoring the latter. Sick people projecting and trying to distract from the declas.
If Trump had been involved, Mueller would have found it and it would have been dragged on for years 24/7.
The best they ever found: grab 'm by the pussy.
Then there is another angle to consider. Just leveling a suspicion does not make a person guilty. You need proof positive. That is how it works in a country that has a 4th amendment.
Use logical thinking.
You really have a chance to school your "normie" ignoramus.
Man your name got extra dark today, bad luck. On the bright side your troll factor has increased substantially.
Every. Single. Epstein. Flight log. Celebrity. Politician. Mogul. Scientist. Etc. Despises. Donald. Trump. And shows it constantly. They have tried everything to gin up hatred of him, and even to remove him from office constantly.
If he truly was a pedophile, and if that's what happened on the island/jet, then why WOULD they NOT be happy that he is the president? You are telling me that he is the 1 guy, who never flew to the island, who went to the island? They all went there, and we know just based on court docs that orgies with minors and other sex trafficking related activities, along with symbolism that suggests the practicing of ancient Pagan human sacrifice rituals. We also know that the Clinton's didn't just travel there by epstein jet, they also traveled by helicopter because Ghislaine got a pilot's license. And we know that there were pictures of naked minors in sexual positions on the walls of the living quarters on the island. If a former president at least sees illegal pictures of naked minors at someone's house and says nothing about it then isn't that a big problem (Clinton's/Gore's)? This is all in official evidence.
Why would they not be rejoicing that one of their guilty co-pedophiles was president, that he could pardon them in exchange for their silence? And why would his admin arrest more human traffickers and pedos than ever before?