I get that this can be a hot button issue because it’s the intersection of religion and child abuse. But I’d like to see where people stand.
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I'm not sure you'll find any consistent "stance" on any institution or individual here. We're all a bunch of anons who can formulate our own ideas, think for ourselves, and hold independent opinions. If you're seeking a consensus here, it probably doesn't exist.
The Catholic Church is not known for its strong Protestant work ethic.
Agreed.
Exactly. And this is not Reddit where you will get a pile on of people fighting. If you are here to wake up, welcome. If you are here to start an “unpopular opinion” conversation, move along
Yeah some people keep getting surprised that not everyone here is Christian even, we just agree on wanting evil purged and sensible government and freedom restored.
Q has posted about the corrupt Vatican.
Infiltrated for a long time. “White pope” “Black Pope”
Look at the symbolism. Paganism, Luciferians.
It’s systematic because the people at the top of the Catholic Church are corrupt.
https://qanon.pub/#1950
https://qanon.pub/#1021
https://qanon.pub/#4799
https://qanon.pub/#1413
Catholicism is corrupt: anti-Christ, unbiblical teaching, pagan practices and idol worship. It has some good, pious people but the "church" itself is rotten from top to bottom. Fake christian cult.
I too agree that many leaders in the Catholic Church are corrupt. But wouldn't it be safe to say that a good portion of Protestantism has been corrupted as well? Many of the scholars over the past century and a half pushing for a demythologizing reading of the New Testament have been Protestant scholars, pushing ideas such as "it matters not whether Jesus literally rose from the dead"
Most Protestant and Catholic scholars I have engaged with have acknowledged each other as genuine Christians, albeit admitting that there are serious differences. Roman Catholics, conservative Anglicans, Lutherans, even Calvinists all have more in common with each other than they do with Unitarians, Liberal Presbyterians etc.
NOMINAL Christians are as bad, agreed. If you are truly born again and you are striving to walk according to the teaching of Jesus and his Word, then your conscience and the fear of the Lord keeps you from sinning. Errors and deceptions abound, satan has been around for a long time and knows his business. Read "Pagan Christianity" (Viola & Barna).
I think I've heard of that title before. I'll look into it. Do you accept the doctrine of the Trinity? I'm curious as to how far your rejection of Pagan elements in Christianity extends.
https://vigilantcitizen.com/sinistersites/the-occult-symbolism-of-the-vaticans-2020-nativity-scene/
https://www.cnbc.com/video/2020/12/08/vatican-alliance-council-inclusive-capitalism-squawk-box.html
Right, but it would be a mistake to say the Catholic Church as an organization has done even the bare minimum to root out the evil within.
Weren't we just talking about the "Deep Church" over this past weekend?
Long since hijacked by evil people. Maybe founded by them. It’s hard. So many lies I do not what to believe anymore.
Believe Jesus and the Bible - King James version is the most reliable, the others are Jesuit rewrites.
What 'movement' are you inferring here?
https://files.catbox.moe/e4h2uj.jpg
It shouldn't matter what the organization is. The vatican has been involved and complicit with crimes against humanity
Child traffickers and pedos hide behind things that normies think are good / righteous. The church is a perfect place because it defends itself. Others include CPS, Foster Care, Charities, Foundations, Red Cross, Boy / Girl Scouts, the UN, etc.
Only the small secrets need kept. The big ones are protected by public incredulity.
https://www.coreysdigs.com/church-pedophiles/church-pedophiles-child-sex-trafficking-nests-intersect-by-the-thousands/
https://maga.host/g/f8erPvk
its pretty obvious isnt it?
Catholicism is pushing Communism right now. The current Pope was all about liberation theology.
The Catholics don't even try to hide this.
https://youtu.be/Ujm5b4TP2FQ
Catholic here. It’s the Church hierarchy that’s the problem, even down at the diocese level (local/regional). For example, our bishop is in hot water for covering up homosexual grooming of a young man by a diocesan employee, then REMOVING a well-loved Pastor from his duties for daring to speak up and report it. Your average person in the pews is perhaps even more pissed off than those on the outside looking in. There’s revival underway and we’re looking to purify our Church, led by some really incredible priests that I know personally.
Incredible priests are still priests. Jesus is our priest and advocate. Born again Christians who accept him as Lord and Saviour have no need of intermediaries priests, sacraments, sacrifices (eucharist), confession etc. We have direct access to the Father by the Blood of Jesus. Anything else is unscriptural and false.
I used to be catholic. I can’t imagine even contributing a dime or an ounce of my time after all they have done as an org to cover things up.
How did they get all that gold for their cathedrals? By robbing and killing protestants for centuries.
Adding on:
https://nicklasarthur.wordpress.com/2013/08/08/the-empire-of-the-city/