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Discussion: I come to the conclusion we got no idea about our history since the Cabal has been in total control for 250 years. So could the holocaust has been a lie? Or did it happen as a way to exterminate all the good Jews so the Sabbatean-Frankists would be in complete control? (media.communities.win)
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– bubble_bursts 14 points 5 years ago +14 / -0

The Cabal always creates division and cause people to oppress each other in order to create a narrative that is used to control the population.

That being said, there is a lot about WW2 that has been obfuscated by the history, specifically the genocide committed by the Allies (Fire bombing of Dresden, Eisenhower's holocaust) nor the fact that conditions for Japanese aggression against US was carefully cultivated, and when the plans for Pearl Harbor was know via multiple channels, it was allowed to happen (as it was the goal), to allow US to join the war, or the fact that Japanese surrender was intentionally sabotaged to ensure they get to test the fruits of the extremely costly Manhattan Project.

BTW the picture you are showing shows the existance of concentration camps, much like Japanese internment camps in US. Does not show holocaust, if that is what you were trying to imply - but this does not mean holocaust was a hoax.

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– Burmeister [S] 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

Well we have to study each picture from that period with critical eyes. What if this picture is nothing more then crisis actors just like Jan 6? Or it could be the Cabal owns people dressed in German uniform. Or did it actually happen as we been told. We know Hitler was a Free-Mason same with Stalin and Churchill. We also know Churchill wanted the war a lot more then Hitler. Was WW2 nothing more then a blood ritual?

We basically have to go back and find historians that has been discredited by the Cabal Academia and media. All materials including pictures has to be reexamined and evaluated

Their is a reason why we say the victors write the history.

Everything is a possibility at this point.

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– bubble_bursts 15 points 5 years ago +15 / -0

Here are some things for which there is evidence

  1. There is circumstantial evidence that hilter was a Rothschild (illegitimate)

  2. that the Banking Cabal funded hilter in the early days

  3. that hilter turned against the Banking Cabal and kicked them out of Germany

  4. that the Judea declared war against hilter with the instigation of the main stream media of the day

  5. that hilter was never intent on waging a bloody war. He only wanted what he always said - to take back the parts of Germany that were lost after the Versaille treaty ("living space for Germans")

  6. hilter never declared war against England or France. They declared the war against him. If anyone is to be held responsible for WW2 it would be them.

  7. that hilter gave England every opportunity for peace, and its quite possible he never expected them to make the apparent strategic mistake of going against him from their extreme point of weaknesses.

  8. Whole story of Rudolph Hess indicates hilter really wanted peace, even to the extent of bypassing any "middlemen". But that Churchil really wanted war, even to the extent of keep Hess in isolation throughout the war.

  9. Neville Chamberlain being replaced by Winston Churchil clearly indicates blood thirst on the part of people wanting the war.

  10. hilter never talks about killing or exterminating Jews in his entire Mein Kampf, where he pretty much lays down his architecture for German success. He clearly talks about taking back the German territories. He refers to "Final Solution" which has been portrayed as genocide. However, contemporarily everyone used that term for homeland for Isrealites. Can you imagine putting him on the Times cover as man of the year in 1933, if this were the case?

  11. hilter is clearly extremely anti-communist. The elites of his day were very much like the BLM-touting intellectuals of our age. They so happened to be Jews. He asks them more than one time to clearly draw a line between themselves and Communism, so he knows who the enemy is.

  12. hilter had thousands of Jewish soldiers and even close associate. Clearly, the idea that every Jew was thrown into concentration camp does not hold up with this.

  13. At the same time there was a huge anti-Jewish sentiment - much like the anti-white sentiment of our day. Jews were perceived as people of privilege much like Whites of today, and there was a general misplaced anger and unhappiness towards them, much like against Whites. It is quite possible all this anger caused a lot of people to use their power against the Jews.

  14. Even the main stream has never actually portrayed hilter as giving a direct order for extermination of Jews, even in all the main stream holocaust movies

  15. hilter's final note before suicide does not sound like someone hell bent on destroying the world. It sounds like someone trying to do the right thing but being manipulated by the deep state powers. Much like what a patriot would write today if The Plan were to fail.

Seeing all this, we have to make up our own mind as to what exactly happened.

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– Burmeister [S] 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

Yes I agree with all you points.

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– Encognegro98ckun2qb 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Good post but the anger against them was not misplaced...

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– RS34ME 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Wow! A complete 180 from everything I've ever learned. Interesting tid bits there, fren.

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– WildFunkyFresh 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Counter-commentary for points 6 and 9.

Didn't Chamberlian make a peace treaty with Hitler during the Munich Agreement which turned a blind eye to Germany annexing Czechoslovakia in exchange for the promise of no further expansion?

UK and France guaranteed Poland's independence and were called to arms when Poland was invaded in September 1939. I'm willing to acknowledge that the reparations imposed on Germany after WW1 were steep and played a role leading up to WW2, but Hitler must've known war was sure to happen if he invaded Poland.

Lastly, Chamberlain didn't get replaced by Churchill until May 1940.

Granted this assumes that what we were told was true, but it's hard to imagine that Chamberlain gave Hitler the green light to conquer more countries before heading home to champion "peace in our time"

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– bubble_bursts 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Didn't Chamberlian make a peace treaty with Hitler during the Munich Agreement which turned a blind eye to Germany annexing Czechoslovakia in exchange for the promise of no further expansion?

Correct. Both Poland and Czechoslovakia were created out of the corpse of Germany after WW1. We may disagree with Hitler, but he strongly felt it was an internal matter and unifying the broken pieces have always been on his agenda. He made no secret of this, and it was always part of his plan (he called it "living space")

So Chamberlian essentially was saying "What you do to fix your country is not our issue, we wont interfere". This is exactly opposite to what Globalists wanted because they did not want broken pieces mended.

UK and France guaranteed Poland's independence and were called to arms when Poland was invaded in September 1939.

East Prussia had been separated from Germany to provide the newly created Poland access to the sea. It also separated the free city of Danzig which was predominantly of German ethnicity from Germany. Hitler had always wanted to unify these regions.

Firstly, UK and France guaranteeing Poland's independence was nothing short of ensuring Germany's local issue become a global issue. If Hitler moved against Poland for any reason, it would ensure Hitler would be at war with countries that had nothing to do with it.

Secondly, Hitler was not inclined to attack Poland in the first place. What he wanted was to unify the German areas scattered after WW1. Poland instigated and goaded him into attacking them by killing Germans in these scattered areas. You can learn more about this if you dig into "Danzig Massacre". While I dont remember the exact time line, it was almost 6 months of constant massacre of Germans in these Polish controlled areas, while Hitler begged them to stop, before he was forced into taking action by attacking Poland. And as soon as he did that, UK and France declared war on him - starting the World War.

I hope you recognise the tactics used by Globalists to create these untenable situations in the current world as well. Do something extremely unfair. Goad them into reacting. As soon as they react, paint them as evil and destroy them.

Lastly, Chamberlain didn't get replaced by Churchill until May 1940.

Dig into Dunkirk, where Hitler defeated British troops and was in a position to annihilate them. In May of1940, he had them backed into the corner and could have easily annihilated them. However he did not, he let them all retreat. He never wanted war with Britain, and do you think after this Chamberlain would have pushed for a bloody war against Germany? Especially the kind of firebombing that was needed later on to break the will of Germans? Do you think its a coincidence that he was replaced by Churchil around the same time ?

hard to imagine that Chamberlain gave Hitler the green light to conquer more countries before heading home to champion "peace in our time"

You are looking at it with the main stream narrative : UK trying to bring peace to world by stopping Hitler from conquering any countries. But in reality UK had nothing to do with what Hitler was doing in Europe, with the territories that was stolen from them, unfairly and with deception (but thats a whole different can of worms) whose sole intent was to punish Germany and extinguish them. The broken territories were all part of that plan, to keep Germany as weak as possible and it was not possible to restore Germany without undoing a lot of those.

As I dug more into all this, I could clearly see that we have been told lies and omissions about so many things leading up to the rise of Hitler, that it becomes hard to know if there is anything in the main stream that can be believed.

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– WildFunkyFresh 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Thanks for giving me some topics to dig into.

I'll start with the Danzig Massacre.

I agree that a lot of facts are twisted as history is written by the victor. If Poland did commit massacres to instigate a war, then they deserved what they got.

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– bubble_bursts 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Hopefully you will find this dig interesting. If you haven't watched "Europa - The last battle" video series, you should. I watched it very skeptically, and while I dont agree with everything in it, it did open a lot of avenues for digging and I learnt a lot I did not know. It is intense in its counter-narrative, so be warned.

If Poland did commit massacres to instigate a war, then they deserved what they got.

I really want to point out something. We have to differentiate between the Elite of a country that does horrible things and the people of the country.

Like CCP vs Chinese people, or American Deep State vs Americans. I am sure the same applied to Poland also. I am sure most Polish people did not deserve what happened to them.

These Elites build up one set of people against another and instigate them to commit atrocities, which they then impose as a burden against that entire race / country / whatever group they chose to victimise next, and create a new cycle of torment.

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– Burmeister [S] 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Yes this is very important. Its always a few people pulling all the strings with their hidden hand inform of lies and deception

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– hundro 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

If we stop believing what we're told we might be able to find the truth. Lies are loud, truth is persistent.

I like your idea of seeking out the discredited historians. It's just like today, where we can find the truth by ignoring the megaphones and listening to those who are risking their careers and reputations to speak.

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– Burmeister [S] 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Yes i think that's the way to go in all areas. Look out for discredited historians,scientist etc they most likely very close to the Truth

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– MichaelConservative 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

I would argue that the holocaust is real because of the people who have had personal experiences on one side or the other. There are too many hands in the pie for me to believe otherwise. I would agree that it is not as bad as people made it seem, but I would never give Hitler any legitimacy. He de-armed the population, subverted the garbage democracy they had in Germany, and became a sole ruler. Ashley Babbitt’s husband and family are suing capital police, so I don’t think she was a crisis actor. All of this to say, yes, we must be very careful about what “history” teaches us. I believe many lies have been told about the Civil War in regards to the North versus South, history simply isn’t black and white. I’m intrigued about WW2, I believe what we are taught is not all there is to know and I’d agree there are many outright lies. Maybe Hitler was fighting the cabal, but if he was, he did approximately the worst job humanly possible. Maybe he thought he was fighting the cabal, but maybe he was not doing that. He could have been a pawn in the game who’s anger was aimed at the wrong people, but in either case, he acted very disgracefully.

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– Burmeister [S] 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

Speaking about Ashley Babbitt’s Have you actually seen the lawsuit filed in a court of law? Because I tried to find it and it doesn't exist

This is one of my main points actually we cant assume anything

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– IntrovertQTard 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0

I don't know if Hitler was a Rothschild or not because there are conflicting theories. Hitler may not have been a Rothschild. These 2 documentaries called "Europa" and "The Greatest Story Never Told" explains the other side of the story we are told about Hitler. Hitler kicked out the Zionist, Rothschild jew bankers out of Germany and the Rothschilds made Germany go to war. The real holocaust was the Holodomor. The gas chambers and lamp shades made out of skin is a propaganda that was created by the zionists/cabal to demonize the Germans for kicking them out. So if Hitler was a Rothschild than why would he have kicked out the cabal from Germany?

The "Jews" are really Khazarians who used the Jewish religion and twisted it for their own purpose, they go by the book of Talmud. The Talmud tells people that everyone else who is not Jewish is a filthy goyim who should be raped and killed.

These 2 documentaries are a good watch.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/s1nPYDj7KBEQ/ Europa

https://thegreateststorynevertold.tv/

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– Encognegro98ckun2qb 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Excellent documentaries. As a history buff, when I was younger, I never understood why it was so one sided but now I know.

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– Burmeister [S] 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Khazarians, Talmuds, Sabbatean-Frankists we got many different factions in this Luciferian shitshow

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– IntrovertQTard 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Mr. Burmeister I suggest you read through this article, it's a good read. https://prepareforchange.net/2020/06/23/the-khazarian-mafia-you-dont-know-what-you-dont-know/ It talks about the origins of the Khazarian mafia.

The Rothschilds are not true Jews, they are Khazarians. Now check out this video https://www.bitchute.com/video/YocM7rwkzIi5/ Now you see how the dots are connected! Zionists=Khazarian. It's the same thing, they worship Satan. I don't know anything about Sabbatean-Frankists, I will look into it. My point is, when people talk about "The Jews" or "Zionists" they're really talking about Khazarians. Those other names are just there to confuse people I believe.

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– Burmeister [S] 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Thanks ill take a look my own research haven't focus much about the khazarian mafia I mostly researched the Sabbatean-Frankists and since it started with one of the Rotchschild I always assumed this was the latest incarnation of the Cabal but of-course it goes back to the start of our history if you read the protocol of Zion.

Before the Sabbatean-Frankists we had the Knights Templar and we also seem to have many different crossover factions like Aleister Crowley and his Thelema religion

And then of-course we got the Talmuds that goes way back to Ancient Babylon and then we got Egypt.

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– RS34ME 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

It sounds like the book of Talmud is similar in nature to the teachings of the Koran.

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– DiveAndBait 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

I never had a good history teacher in school. I wonder if this was deliberate?

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– Burmeister [S] 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

Well if everything we know is a lie you teacher is just doing what he has been thought

But yea our education system is another Cabal power tool used for manipulation and social engineering

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– hundro 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

https://www.bitchute.com/video/0jbWwRwh9KsG/

John Taylor Gatto seems to confirm your suspicion.

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– AwakeJesusisComing21 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I wouldn't doubt it.

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– LawDoc 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

I find five issues most useful for opening a discussion around this taboo subject.

  1. Not a single piece of paper from the German government, military or concentration camp official has ever surfaced suggesting a genocide/extermination program was ever even considered, let alone ordered or underway

  2. You can be sent to prison in 17 different countries for merely asking questions or pointing out lies and anomalies in a public space

  3. After the collapse of the Soviet Union and the opening of Moscow archives to researchers, a multitude of lies were exposed: Not the least of which was a complete and utter lack of proof of the "6 million" number. Since then, proponents were forced to update the deaths at Auschwitz from 4 million to 1.5 million "mostly jews". They even updated their plaque at the Auschwitz museum to reflect this most significant change. But yet, the "6 million" number is still touted to this day. The NY Times was even forced to reluctantly post this most humiliating update in 1992 as a tiny blurb on a random page. Quite a surprise as this should have been front page news.

  4. In 1989 information was released that the primary and ONLY "witness" to admit to the extermination of millions of Jews at the main Nuremberg trial, Rudolph Hoss, had been brutally beaten and tortured for 3 days by British military and his entire family threatened with worse treatment if he didn't "confess". All the others on trial roundly denied having participated in, or having any knowledge of it to the bitter end. This too should have been front page news, but wasn't.

  5. The now publicly available transcripts of the Enigma code break of German communications during this period (1942-44) have been thoroughly vetted and yet, not a single communication ever mentions anything related to extermination plans or gas chambers.

There are many more, this is just a warmup. To be fair, the revisionists don't deny the concentration camps, nor that Jews and people of other nationalities died in them. But their numbers and causes (typhoid and starvation) are quite at odds with the mainstream establishment narrative.

I'd also like to note that the word "Nazi" was never used by the Germans. It's been used as a highly effective smear word just like the words "fascist/fascism" are now used as smear words by the communists. If you're a Trump supporter, you're a fascist according to "them". In other words, anti-communism/socialism/marxism or "nationalism" are all "fascist ideologies" according the mainstream narrative. No more explanation required to prove that point. There's only ever been one "fascist party" that tried to throw out the deeply-embedded cabal of Italy.

What's very clear, but never discussed in mainstream academia, is that the people of Europe were all very aware of the Ukrainian genocide of 1932-33 where 8-10 million were deliberately starved to death by the Bolsheviks - which is a most inhumane and brutal way to die. This was known as the Holodomor. All European nations were frightened of the "red terror" on their doorstep which was actively infiltrating all their governments. Germany was the ultimate prize to be overthrown and most at risk when Hitler came to power, defeating the communist party in a narrow victory.

Far and away, the most genocidal leaders in our recent history were all communists through and through - Lenin, Stalin, Mao Zedung, Pol Pot. And yet somehow, we rarely hear about these atrocities.

Food for thought.

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– Burmeister [S] 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Excellent points

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– Burmeister [S] 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Yes Hitler was a free-mason so this make sense he was a sponsor of Zionism

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– EnosMacLar 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Is the attempt to create a "New World Order" similar to building the Tower of Babylon? Can we expect a similar outcome?

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– deleted 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0
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– NanaQ45 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Scapegoats. Your last question is the answer.

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– Burmeister [S] 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Maybe

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– Tharin 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

It would be amazing if we knew the truth. Imagine if the titanic was an operation to kill off the opposition to the FED, and fiat currency. Ushering in the globalists. Could you imagine what the world would know if we had the truth. Finding out the boiler was sabotaged, the romance movie would be a thriller of killing off the wealthy targets. And getting away with changing the course of history. We would have to go back to school and relearn the history of the world. We have been shaped for so long our understanding of the world would be the facts we thought as true, is that our truths are all lies...

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– Tangent-love 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

This is a great post. This kind of post is what I remember Voat being great for.

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– GetsTheNogginJoggin 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Considering Q has multiple drops about the Nazi World Order, I’m going to go with no.

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– 901Bear 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Disinfo is necessary means there is no certainty. What is certain is Q pointed at it for inspection.

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