I think we have slowly awakened to the deceptive, stealth tactics of the extreme left. I think we now need to 'defund' them. Should not be hard to do as they live off public money. It is disgusting that they are getting paid to destroy society and we can end it by forcing our state and local legislators not to fund their radical programs.
Slowly awakened is right. This has been an ongoing process for at least 50 years and some who knew the left were subversive tried to call attention to that fact. In the 60's, leftists used the Viet Nam war to push the rejection of patriotism. A good example was Jane Fonda, American movie star allowed herself to be used and photographed with the enemy in an attempt to demoralize our servicemen and women. Instead of hanging her for outright treason, she was given a pass. We've been giving the left one pass after another since then. Each time we ignore them, they take another step more audacious than the last and each designed to erode morals, values, love of country. What we have today is the cumulative effect of 50+ years of subversion. The left will not stop on their own. They will continue until the United States is destroyed, putrefied from within.
Like a person with advanced gangrene, the only way to save the nation is to surgically remove the infected limb otherwise we die. This is the truth people find too painful to contemplate but we must face facts. At this point band aids are useless. It will take much more than rallying at Trump's side. It will take a moment of national clarity to stun the nation into the only meaningful action left to us. The left must be removed through the application of law and justice. Their evil and lawlessness exposed AND RESPONDED TO legally with execution and life in prison where appropriate. Then to ban all activities, perversions of law and morals that have led us to this point in time. A restoration of patriotism, religion and the unwavering rule of law upon which the country was founded is the only way to survive and heal as a nation.
Insight from a former teacher: one of the issues here might be the approach.
For many of these people, teaching is their IDENTITY, not just a job. There is a weird, cultish thing with teachers that will have them completely committed to that world heart and soul, even though it abuses them and burns them up like firewood. I didn't realize this until after I'd left it.
The cognitive dissonance is real because they believe they are doing GOOD. Take that away, and many of these people lose the only compass they have. Connecting their identity/desire to do good to things that are obviously wrong and immoral destroys their moral center, and many will deflect simply as a defense of their identity, not because they want to defend the wrong and immoral.
Might have better success if you acknowledge that you see her as a good person trying to have a positive impact.
People just take this sht because we know that it’s useless arguing with a leftist. Neither logic nor rationale work. They argue with feelings as if ours don’t matter. Now we know that taking sht just makes matters worse because it’s never enough for them.
This is coming from someone who isn’t white, and someone whose experience with actual racism comes from other corners of the world if it hasn’t already come from the left. Getting called a name by some btch on the internet is about as low a priority as it gets. Left a place where people of my ethnicity were being oppressed as second class citizens overseas for a continent where Affirmative Action exists.
Lmao. Imagine being so woke, you segregate people by race due to privilege. Even if we pretend predominantly white trailer parks don’t exist, quite literally every other asian country outside of the biggest three would like to know what privilege they speak of.
Appreciate your post. Personally never experienced the ism of racism. Until I started dating my now husband. And where did we get the rudeness, the looks, the acting like he's invisible? In the most woke communities in the pnw. And like you-- he doesn't care what inconsequential ppl think of him.
I have a similar attitude towards those who attempt to diminish me for my immutable traits.
And CRT? a f-g lie. Anyone with a brain can see its a game of scapegoating to meet an agenda
While some should be mature enough to see through the veil, I can't help but think (edit: latter comments got me thinking - some things are out of even the parents' control, as there's only so much that can be done with limited resources - it's far more than any one persons' shoulders to put the blame and, sometimes, it's not even their blame to shoulder) where their parents were while they were being "taught" these heavily detestable things. It's an addiction to hate as far as I can see, and while I feel at least I am justified in my anger through reason and rationale, that slippery slope applies to us as well, and I feel I'm not too far off of a few steps away from slipping myself. Need to constantly check myself before I wreck myself.
Absolutely. I should have led with that, tbh, because much of the terrible parenting woes we see actually come as a result of teachers who they spend much of their time with, as the 'rents are too busy elsewhere. I've said it before - it becomes an issue when the education system teaches the students what to think instead of how to think.
I'm sorry. What little I know about you, it already sounds to me you're trying your darnedest. Shouldn't have pushed the blame so simply on the parents when it's clearly far more than just any one thing.
Oh...I took no offense. I was a therapist for over 15 years. Bad parents kept me in business. Though more often than you might assume, I was able to explain that imperfect parenting and immoral parenting are not the same.
Neither logic nor rationale work. They argue with feelings as if ours don’t matter
That just isn't true.
Starting with Marx himself, all the ideas are rational, logical and analytical. This is largely why the ideas became so popular. People turned away from religious thinking towards "scientific" thinking.
The problem isn't that it's not logical. The problem is that the definitions and axioms that serve as the foundation of the (rational and logical) models lead to models that don't work as such.
The point is that you shouldn't be arguing logic. The logic is fine. You should be pointing out that their models completely fail to predict reality every single time (which what a model does) and the reason this happens is because their definitions are useless bullshit.
Leftism is basically like solving a physics problem by placing yourself in a randomly accelerating point of reference. The math to solve this could be completely fine even though the result will be bullshit.
I'm not talking about the ideology, though I do have a lot to say about its practical applications. I'm talking about arguing with one over social issues and all the inconsistencies found within the modern socialist doctrine, which really speak more about the people following it, admittedly, than the actual ideology itself. It's something like Farm House if Escher wrote it.
All women are empowered, but some women are more empowered than others. Feminism is against misogyny, which any woman can be, unless she celebrates historically feminine traits because that's internalized misogyny, but it's misogyny to criticize women who display strength of character, unless that strength of character just so happens to align with historically feminine traits, because that's inernalized misogyny, but it's misogyny to criticize women who...
Again, you're looking at this mess and thinking "this makes no sense" and thinking there is no logic here.
But there is. It's just that the words "empowered" and "misogyny" aren't defined the way you think they are, as fixed, discrete and continuous concepts defined once.
No, misogyny isn't a fixed value. Misogyny is a function. Misogyny = f(x,y,z). And the actual value you get depends entirely on the context and value of the variables (which are themselves functions)
Whether or not something is misogyny depends on who did the action being judged, their social status, their location in space and time, their nationality, their race, their sexuality, their prior actions and adherence to the faith etc etc etc. And this is by definition.
Within this definition, a man killing women because he hates them can be totally non-misogyny (think trans male POC muslim attacking TERF women at a Trump rally) while a woman buying a dress for her daughter can be totally misogyny.
Trying to argue logic within this framework is useless. You need to argue semantics.
Oh man. I accidentally changed the page while writing a comment down. I'm such a dumbass.
Basically, what I wrote is that there comes a problem with arguing with them. Those variables are always dynamic to them and fit whatever argument they want. There are no standards, and that's what frustrates me the most. What I'd call a chair, they would put a cup of tea and call it a table, and without a mutual agreement on what variables constitute a chair and not a table, there will always be disagreement.
They don't seem to want to have an honest discussion. More like they'd rather play a game with rules they want to set. You rolled a five? Well, it's a Tuesday, so it's really only a two.
It's why I rather say hey, remember when you guys said this? I find it's personally less aggravating than actually sitting down and trying to figure out which "definition" of racism they want to use today, whether systemic, internalized, or whatever suits them best.
Oh there's absolutely no point in trying to figure out which bullshit definition of "racism" is being used or what the implications are.
That's the whole point. You have to reject the entire thing outright, at the root. Not because the construct is illogical or irrational, it isn't. But because the construct is useless bullshit with no practical or functional purpose outside the personal increase of wealth and power for those insidious bullshit-smiths who crafted the thing in the halls of academia.
I think I see what you’re saying. There is a purpose, something illogical stuff wouldn’t necessarily have. Yeah, if only they could see they’re being used.
Explicitly and loudly reject the leftist bullshit whenever it is encountered. Refuse to "go along to get along"... look where that got us.
Sadly, many/most people are spineless wimps these days, so those of us that are not in that category will have to do the heavy lifting for everyone else's benefit (as well as our own). So be it.
You have to remember, that a lot of NPCs are brainwashed to believe CRT is mentioning that black people were discriminated or oppressed at all, and evil white GOP fascist meanies are banning people from mentioning it.
Given that, it shows both how few Americans are still NPCs, and/or how EXTREMELY unpopular the ideas actually are.
CRT is just collectivism in yet another form. That has always been the enemy's ideology. Divide people into groups and pit them against each other to fight one another.
Too many are awake now for this to work in the ??. Too many are waking up to its evil across the globe.
I think we have slowly awakened to the deceptive, stealth tactics of the extreme left. I think we now need to 'defund' them. Should not be hard to do as they live off public money. It is disgusting that they are getting paid to destroy society and we can end it by forcing our state and local legislators not to fund their radical programs.
Slowly awakened is right. This has been an ongoing process for at least 50 years and some who knew the left were subversive tried to call attention to that fact. In the 60's, leftists used the Viet Nam war to push the rejection of patriotism. A good example was Jane Fonda, American movie star allowed herself to be used and photographed with the enemy in an attempt to demoralize our servicemen and women. Instead of hanging her for outright treason, she was given a pass. We've been giving the left one pass after another since then. Each time we ignore them, they take another step more audacious than the last and each designed to erode morals, values, love of country. What we have today is the cumulative effect of 50+ years of subversion. The left will not stop on their own. They will continue until the United States is destroyed, putrefied from within.
Like a person with advanced gangrene, the only way to save the nation is to surgically remove the infected limb otherwise we die. This is the truth people find too painful to contemplate but we must face facts. At this point band aids are useless. It will take much more than rallying at Trump's side. It will take a moment of national clarity to stun the nation into the only meaningful action left to us. The left must be removed through the application of law and justice. Their evil and lawlessness exposed AND RESPONDED TO legally with execution and life in prison where appropriate. Then to ban all activities, perversions of law and morals that have led us to this point in time. A restoration of patriotism, religion and the unwavering rule of law upon which the country was founded is the only way to survive and heal as a nation.
it's too entrenched. a civil war is really the only way this ends
Slowly slowly. My friend's wife, who is a teacher, had never heard about crt. I told her and she called me a liar.
Told her about the tranny/drag book reading stuff, called me a liar.
Showed her videos and news articles and she still did not believe. "That site isn't a .gov so I don't believe it"
"Oh so you trust only the government now?"
Some people are lightspeed retarded.
She lost likely believes in CRT and is just deflecting it. D flection is one of th few things the Left is good at.
Insight from a former teacher: one of the issues here might be the approach.
For many of these people, teaching is their IDENTITY, not just a job. There is a weird, cultish thing with teachers that will have them completely committed to that world heart and soul, even though it abuses them and burns them up like firewood. I didn't realize this until after I'd left it.
The cognitive dissonance is real because they believe they are doing GOOD. Take that away, and many of these people lose the only compass they have. Connecting their identity/desire to do good to things that are obviously wrong and immoral destroys their moral center, and many will deflect simply as a defense of their identity, not because they want to defend the wrong and immoral.
Might have better success if you acknowledge that you see her as a good person trying to have a positive impact.
People just take this sht because we know that it’s useless arguing with a leftist. Neither logic nor rationale work. They argue with feelings as if ours don’t matter. Now we know that taking sht just makes matters worse because it’s never enough for them.
This is coming from someone who isn’t white, and someone whose experience with actual racism comes from other corners of the world if it hasn’t already come from the left. Getting called a name by some btch on the internet is about as low a priority as it gets. Left a place where people of my ethnicity were being oppressed as second class citizens overseas for a continent where Affirmative Action exists.
Lmao. Imagine being so woke, you segregate people by race due to privilege. Even if we pretend predominantly white trailer parks don’t exist, quite literally every other asian country outside of the biggest three would like to know what privilege they speak of.
Appreciate your post. Personally never experienced the ism of racism. Until I started dating my now husband. And where did we get the rudeness, the looks, the acting like he's invisible? In the most woke communities in the pnw. And like you-- he doesn't care what inconsequential ppl think of him.
I have a similar attitude towards those who attempt to diminish me for my immutable traits.
And CRT? a f-g lie. Anyone with a brain can see its a game of scapegoating to meet an agenda
While some should be mature enough to see through the veil, I can't help but think (edit: latter comments got me thinking - some things are out of even the parents' control, as there's only so much that can be done with limited resources - it's far more than any one persons' shoulders to put the blame and, sometimes, it's not even their blame to shoulder) where their parents were while they were being "taught" these heavily detestable things. It's an addiction to hate as far as I can see, and while I feel at least I am justified in my anger through reason and rationale, that slippery slope applies to us as well, and I feel I'm not too far off of a few steps away from slipping myself. Need to constantly check myself before I wreck myself.
Transient anger is a natural reaction to injustice. It's the checking of yourself that makes you reasonable.
They can't do it!
I'll be honest, though, it's been so difficult keeping it together.
Not too long now!
Sadly, I don't take much pleasure in I-Told-You-So's. That being said, more and more people are waking up, so that's awesome.
Tbh, it is the adults and the teachers i am most frustrated with. They were exposed to a much more accurate telling of this nation's history.
Absolutely. I should have led with that, tbh, because much of the terrible parenting woes we see actually come as a result of teachers who they spend much of their time with, as the 'rents are too busy elsewhere. I've said it before - it becomes an issue when the education system teaches the students what to think instead of how to think.
Yes. My kids were nearly ruined by public school. Daughter recovered because she has a will of iron.
Son has struggled more. Good kid but .... atm rebellion is a touch of wokeness.
I'm sorry. What little I know about you, it already sounds to me you're trying your darnedest. Shouldn't have pushed the blame so simply on the parents when it's clearly far more than just any one thing.
Oh...I took no offense. I was a therapist for over 15 years. Bad parents kept me in business. Though more often than you might assume, I was able to explain that imperfect parenting and immoral parenting are not the same.
That just isn't true.
Starting with Marx himself, all the ideas are rational, logical and analytical. This is largely why the ideas became so popular. People turned away from religious thinking towards "scientific" thinking.
The problem isn't that it's not logical. The problem is that the definitions and axioms that serve as the foundation of the (rational and logical) models lead to models that don't work as such.
The point is that you shouldn't be arguing logic. The logic is fine. You should be pointing out that their models completely fail to predict reality every single time (which what a model does) and the reason this happens is because their definitions are useless bullshit.
Leftism is basically like solving a physics problem by placing yourself in a randomly accelerating point of reference. The math to solve this could be completely fine even though the result will be bullshit.
I'm not talking about the ideology, though I do have a lot to say about its practical applications. I'm talking about arguing with one over social issues and all the inconsistencies found within the modern socialist doctrine, which really speak more about the people following it, admittedly, than the actual ideology itself. It's something like Farm House if Escher wrote it.
All women are empowered, but some women are more empowered than others. Feminism is against misogyny, which any woman can be, unless she celebrates historically feminine traits because that's internalized misogyny, but it's misogyny to criticize women who display strength of character, unless that strength of character just so happens to align with historically feminine traits, because that's inernalized misogyny, but it's misogyny to criticize women who...
That's one example.
Again, you're looking at this mess and thinking "this makes no sense" and thinking there is no logic here.
But there is. It's just that the words "empowered" and "misogyny" aren't defined the way you think they are, as fixed, discrete and continuous concepts defined once.
No, misogyny isn't a fixed value. Misogyny is a function. Misogyny = f(x,y,z). And the actual value you get depends entirely on the context and value of the variables (which are themselves functions)
Whether or not something is misogyny depends on who did the action being judged, their social status, their location in space and time, their nationality, their race, their sexuality, their prior actions and adherence to the faith etc etc etc. And this is by definition.
Within this definition, a man killing women because he hates them can be totally non-misogyny (think trans male POC muslim attacking TERF women at a Trump rally) while a woman buying a dress for her daughter can be totally misogyny.
Trying to argue logic within this framework is useless. You need to argue semantics.
Oh man. I accidentally changed the page while writing a comment down. I'm such a dumbass.
Basically, what I wrote is that there comes a problem with arguing with them. Those variables are always dynamic to them and fit whatever argument they want. There are no standards, and that's what frustrates me the most. What I'd call a chair, they would put a cup of tea and call it a table, and without a mutual agreement on what variables constitute a chair and not a table, there will always be disagreement.
They don't seem to want to have an honest discussion. More like they'd rather play a game with rules they want to set. You rolled a five? Well, it's a Tuesday, so it's really only a two.
It's why I rather say hey, remember when you guys said this? I find it's personally less aggravating than actually sitting down and trying to figure out which "definition" of racism they want to use today, whether systemic, internalized, or whatever suits them best.
Oh there's absolutely no point in trying to figure out which bullshit definition of "racism" is being used or what the implications are.
That's the whole point. You have to reject the entire thing outright, at the root. Not because the construct is illogical or irrational, it isn't. But because the construct is useless bullshit with no practical or functional purpose outside the personal increase of wealth and power for those insidious bullshit-smiths who crafted the thing in the halls of academia.
I think I see what you’re saying. There is a purpose, something illogical stuff wouldn’t necessarily have. Yeah, if only they could see they’re being used.
Dude, have you ever tried to engage an NPC? No logic works.
Explicitly and loudly reject the leftist bullshit whenever it is encountered. Refuse to "go along to get along"... look where that got us.
Sadly, many/most people are spineless wimps these days, so those of us that are not in that category will have to do the heavy lifting for everyone else's benefit (as well as our own). So be it.
The silver lining is though that huge population of the spineless will simply get out of the way when the Patriots start moving.
You have to remember, that a lot of NPCs are brainwashed to believe CRT is mentioning that black people were discriminated or oppressed at all, and evil white GOP fascist meanies are banning people from mentioning it.
Given that, it shows both how few Americans are still NPCs, and/or how EXTREMELY unpopular the ideas actually are.
CRT is just collectivism in yet another form. That has always been the enemy's ideology. Divide people into groups and pit them against each other to fight one another.
Too many are awake now for this to work in the ??. Too many are waking up to its evil across the globe.
NCSWIC. Not even CRT.
I can't see why, except that these idiots take their marching orders from the Cabal.