When 200 armed officers come up against 200,000 armed Patriots who do you think is going to win that battle?
There are 800,000 law enforcement officers in the US. There are 1.8 million military in total. There are over 240 million armed citizens. More than half of LEOs and Military would not take illegal orders and raise arms against American citizens.
So the response to your question is to tell your BIL the numbers do NOT support the argument. If a war broke out between LEOs/MIL and citizens they would be outnumbered more than 10:1.
Wanted to also add a reminder of the video the Seattle (I believe, or it may have been Portland) Police Officer, who was also an ME military vet, gave as a warning to other police officers that if the citizens took up arms en mass that LEOs didn't stand a chance as he witnessed that first hand in the ME.
Ask your BIL to picture going around in a city where 90% of the citizens are ready to kill you. Do you really think you stand a chance in that situation? Picture the same for the military.
He was more referring to an individual citizen vs. LEO's. And that they didn't stand a chance if lets say some LEO tried to come and take your child away for no reason.
I believe he also mentioned an example of what they ran into when he was deployed in the ME. He stated that LEOs have no idea how fast people can organize when they have had enough and that the US Military ran into that exact scenario.
Mow down a bunch of innocent civilians and you would be amazed how fast they can organize. Just ask any Vet of the ME excursions and they will tell you how fast it can happen.
If they drone strike my house while I’m asleep, then he’s probably right. Otherwise, I’ll damn sure get at least one of them before they get me. In Minecraft of course. And if I hadn’t already lost all of my guns in that tragic canoe mishap.
It was a kayak for me... I thought it was a great idea (at the time) to clean my whole collection of guns in the middle of a lake, on a kayak, in rough weather. Oh well. Live and learn.
Patriots would not really need to fight the police or the military, they would have to wage a guerrilla war aginst those actually in charge of the police and military.
Also, it is another false argument to assume that the military and police would participate in the first place.
People in the military would refuse to follow unlawful orders to fire on their fellow citizens. I served, and I know that is a fact. As for the police, I would like to think that is also true.
Sorry to be the one to break this to you, but your BIL is an idiot. He must be a leftist - they are the only people that I have seen that think this way.
Show him pictures of what Congress looked like when unarmed protesters took over Nancy Pelosi's office. These are the same wimps trying to convince you that you don't stand a chance with a gun.
I am in Australia and not many of us have a gun or rifle at all. We wouldn’t stand a chance, although I know there are plenty that would not give in to a corrupt government if push comes to shove. The 2nd amendment in the U.S. is probably all that is stopping the deepstate from ruling over the whole world. So to all those armed patriots, you have my wholehearted gratitude. Also the BIL needs to research some threads on GAW.
Amendment II
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
Wouldn't you just use your small arms to steal better shit from the military? Slowly working your way up to the lucrative F-15 and nuke? I thought that's what resistence fighters do.
I mean the sand people have been giving the U.S. the run around in the middle east for decades. Granted, the deep state want to prolong those wars.
The American Revolution, the Society of Masterless Men, the Hatian Slave revolt, ...history is full of examples of armed citizens standing against oppressive governments with unlimited resources.
When 200 armed officers come up against 200,000 armed Patriots who do you think is going to win that battle?
There are 800,000 law enforcement officers in the US. There are 1.8 million military in total. There are over 240 million armed citizens. More than half of LEOs and Military would not take illegal orders and raise arms against American citizens.
So the response to your question is to tell your BIL the numbers do NOT support the argument. If a war broke out between LEOs/MIL and citizens they would be outnumbered more than 10:1.
"Quantity has a quality all it's own."
Wanted to also add a reminder of the video the Seattle (I believe, or it may have been Portland) Police Officer, who was also an ME military vet, gave as a warning to other police officers that if the citizens took up arms en mass that LEOs didn't stand a chance as he witnessed that first hand in the ME.
Ask your BIL to picture going around in a city where 90% of the citizens are ready to kill you. Do you really think you stand a chance in that situation? Picture the same for the military.
He was more referring to an individual citizen vs. LEO's. And that they didn't stand a chance if lets say some LEO tried to come and take your child away for no reason.
I believe he also mentioned an example of what they ran into when he was deployed in the ME. He stated that LEOs have no idea how fast people can organize when they have had enough and that the US Military ran into that exact scenario.
OK, but how long would it take you to get those 200,000 people together? Those 200 armed officers could be round this afternoon.
Mow down a bunch of innocent civilians and you would be amazed how fast they can organize. Just ask any Vet of the ME excursions and they will tell you how fast it can happen.
If they drone strike my house while I’m asleep, then he’s probably right. Otherwise, I’ll damn sure get at least one of them before they get me. In Minecraft of course. And if I hadn’t already lost all of my guns in that tragic canoe mishap.
It was a kayak for me... I thought it was a great idea (at the time) to clean my whole collection of guns in the middle of a lake, on a kayak, in rough weather. Oh well. Live and learn.
It is a false argument.
Patriots would not really need to fight the police or the military, they would have to wage a guerrilla war aginst those actually in charge of the police and military.
Good point.
Also, it is another false argument to assume that the military and police would participate in the first place.
People in the military would refuse to follow unlawful orders to fire on their fellow citizens. I served, and I know that is a fact. As for the police, I would like to think that is also true.
Sorry to be the one to break this to you, but your BIL is an idiot. He must be a leftist - they are the only people that I have seen that think this way.
Show him pictures of what Congress looked like when unarmed protesters took over Nancy Pelosi's office. These are the same wimps trying to convince you that you don't stand a chance with a gun.
There are about 100 million of us, how many government/police are there?
I am in Australia and not many of us have a gun or rifle at all. We wouldn’t stand a chance, although I know there are plenty that would not give in to a corrupt government if push comes to shove. The 2nd amendment in the U.S. is probably all that is stopping the deepstate from ruling over the whole world. So to all those armed patriots, you have my wholehearted gratitude. Also the BIL needs to research some threads on GAW.
Amendment II A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
If they were not concerned about our second amendment and the people who decide to practice it, they wouldn't try to infringe on a constant basis.
Bullseye. ?
Call him a fucking pussy
LOL honestly he's a cool guy. Just has some out there opinions lol
The point is not who wins.
The point is making them seriously think about their actions when going up against millions of people with weapons.
If we had no weapons. Then it becomes easy for the gov to do whatever they want.
Remember.. if there is an all out war between us and the military
That would mean shady politicians would have ordered it.
There is not enough security to keep them safe as well:
People would go after them as well.
Wouldn't you just use your small arms to steal better shit from the military? Slowly working your way up to the lucrative F-15 and nuke? I thought that's what resistence fighters do.
I mean the sand people have been giving the U.S. the run around in the middle east for decades. Granted, the deep state want to prolong those wars.
how did vietnam go for the side with superior weaponry?
The American Revolution, the Society of Masterless Men, the Hatian Slave revolt, ...history is full of examples of armed citizens standing against oppressive governments with unlimited resources.
I know some people in my town who can match the military's firepower.
They would never, because just like during the Civil War, Russia would come and help us. Among other issues.
Someone did a great analysis on a Civil War in America, conservatives win hands down.