You can grab some popcorn and enjoy the show. You can admit that you got got and move on with your life. What can stop what is coming? The answer is nothing.
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I mean, I’ve been banned from both here and PW (back when it was TDW) multiple times for posts that I felt were pretty inoffensive and objective, too. You guys know I’m pretty level-headed, but this is the longest I’ve been allowed to stay as an open nonbeliever, and I don’t see any others around here, so I’m guessing it might be different if I wasn’t a mod on the opposition’s sub.
I don’t agree with banning Q supporters for being Q supporters, but I don’t own the sub or Reddit. Private organizations can set their own rules. You guys can ban whoever you want for whatever reason you want as long as taxpayers aren’t footing the bill.
And what I see in this particular post is what I see here on GAW all the time. People who believe they know The Truth are frustrated by people who believe A Lie, and have no idea how to communicate in such a way as to convince the other side.
We’re looking at each other through the same, seemingly-impenetrable window and trying to figure out how to break it.
I’ve said before and I’ll say again that it’s important to remember that one of us is so absolutely wrong about Q that it’s causing real social damage. Neither of us thinks we’re wrong, and we both believe that with the same passion. But one of us is.
At this point, we’re hoping that time will tell, but people on my side are definitely worried that if the audit fails, if Trump doesn’t get reinstated by December, if a Republican loses 2024, then you guys won’t have given up your faith in the plan.
It’s harder to believe that people won’t realize the truth if Q’s Plan comes to fruition, considering that’s the whole point.
So our version of the truth has a definite expiration date if you’re correct. If I’m correct, I’m not certain there is an expiration on your version of the truth, since you guys are so wary of datefagging. And so my side is trying to figure out what we do if you guys can’t stop kicking the can down the road. If you’re wrong.
So, frustration on both sides. But I am not currently seeing any rules being broken in the thread or violence being suggested. I will keep an eye on it, and you’re always free to report stuff to call attention to it. I can verify looking at the mod logs now that we are removing anti-Q stuff that is breaking the rules and/or alarmingly agressive.
I would argue that the divide is more between the people who outright reject as a lie any perspective derived from the mainstream news, and people who do not.
It’s true that I hold positions that align with the “mainstream”, but it does not logically follow that this can only occur BECAUSE the mainstream news carries it. That’s a correlation/causation fallacy.
If the news reports that the sky is blue, and I also believe the sky is blue, you are far more likely to be suspicious of the sky color than I am.
So while I certainly can’t speak for all nonbelievers, I can say for myself that you guys are paying FAR more attention to what the mainstream news is saying than I do. I don’t even have cable.
And that's the divide. If their media changes their perception thus to change their perception to the point where the media can just align their opinions with the propaganda they're spreading (e.g. if I believe the sky is blue and the media says it's blue) then they lose connection to reality.
They are wholly susceptible to media programming, more than any of us are. They only believe what already aligns with their beliefs, which were changed slowly over time by the media, Reddit, Twitter, their favorite celebrities or late night personalities, video games, movies and even books.
They are unable to escape their programming, and they screech at us like whelps on parmesan berserker rushing Leroy, with no one in the final raid to handle them.
I just read a thing a couple of days ago here from a user saying that if Facebook is censoring news that Jan 6th was staged, then it must be staged. Maybe I am wrong, and if so, I apologize, but I don’t think everyone here would disagree that the MSM or Big Tech taking one position automatically makes you consider the opposite position to be more trustworthy.
It’s not that I think you’re stupid. It’s that I think you’re suspicious. And when you see anything anti-Trump as an enemy of the plan, then that suspicion will inevitably leak into doubting some true things just because the people you’re suspicious of are the ones making the claims.
So you moderate a subreddit that is dedicated to countering Q...yet seem to have no awareness of what Q is actually about, and admit to being largely ignorant of world events in general?
Reddit, never change.
See, now you’re saying I’m ignorant about world events because I admit to not really following the mainstream news.
Dude, I didn’t watch Jan 6th on CNN. I watched it right here, through the feeds stickied by the mods. I had about six tabs open with simultaneous streams from homebrew Trump people.
I know what’s going on. I’m not a Luddite.
lmaoooo, really? is that so? Your perception of an "truth expiration" is still founded in the fact that youre still viewing through a veil. We have already gone through our "truth expiration."
Is that why people on your side refuse to acknowledge the reality of the uniparty? Your people still think trump is a standard republican.
The irony in this post is hilarious.
Oh, I think the number of liberals who see Trump as a “standard Republican” is vanishingly small, as long as we’re using pre-Trump definitions of what a Republican is.
I can probably spend 5 minutes on your cult sub and find about 100 comments that contradict what you just stated.
Hilarious. You are fucking hilarious.
I live to please.
EDIT: added a part here that was a response to another comment. My bad. My inbox is a bit crazy right now.
Group A is adhering to the principles of logic, and group B is not and disagrees with them.
That’s not the same thing as two groups disagreeing over something debatable.
Just out of curiosity, have you watched any of the Q Proof videos?
I'd be interested to know why you don't see them as a significant weight of evidence for our side.
That is an enormous conversation to have. Yes, I have been involved with this community for a long time and have seen pretty much everything you guys discuss. But as I do not accept Q’s claim of having access to top secret information based on what he’s posted, none of the rest of his evidence has much impact for me until that singular fact has been verified beyond all doubt.
We see what your side has sacrificed for Q. Many of you have lost family, friends, jobs, and even legal freedom in service of what you believe to be the truth. Convincing me to embrace that lifestyle is going to require proof far heavier than anything I’ve seen so far.
Can you explain the zero deltas? IE how Q would post and then Trump would post to Twitter within the same minute, but after Q? Because there’s 20+ examples of that. That was the biggest holy shit for me, as in it was obviously coordinated. I’ll even be extra nice and post the archive of Qmap.pub before the lefties Doxxed the owner and sent him death threats. Thanks Q for telling us to archive everything.
QMap.pub
http://web.archive.org/web/20191229235001/https://qmap.pub/proofs
All you have to do is scroll down to December to find the first of many.
Quick reply: both Trump and Q are prolific posters probably in roughly the same time zone. Trump probably shares “zero deltas” with millions of Twitter users. See if there are any deltas between him and, say, Elon Musk or Pewdiepie or something. It’s easy to see deltas if you consider only connections between Q and Trump to be important, because you consider Q important.
Okay, I appreciate the reply but you didn't really answer my question directly, I only make the distinction because it's quite different to see individual 'happenings' as some call them than it is to watch a collated and exhaustive montage which ties them together.
Obviously I'm not saying you haven't but just asking for clarification.
Anyway, I'm definitely not a Q wizard and some possess much greater understanding about the whole thing than I do so I don't profess to be an authority.
As an aside, because you made mention in a comment that your peers are concerned about what the Q folks might do should the plan not come to fruition; what is your perception and judgement of the character of the average Q believer? If you choose to respond, answer how you like, I don't expect you to write a novel.
That’s a good question, but one that is hard to answer. You guys all definitely share some common traits, but I’ve talked with enough of you one-on-one to know that you come from different backgrounds and have individual reasons for being here. I don’t want to trivialize that by stereotyping.
Lolol....Look, this isn’t personal. I’m just responding to all your comments because I’m genuinely intrigued by how you can use logic to arrive at the conclusions you fight so hard to advocate.
If I understand your comment correctly, you’re saying you ignore information that might require re-evaluation of your preconceived notions?
No. If I was ignoring information, I would not be spending the hours a week I do chatting with you guys. I’m here. I’m not ignoring anything.
I’m more trying to avoid getting bogged down in a huge, general conversation on Q proof right now simply because I don’t have internet outside of my phone for a few days, and my thumbs hurt. :)
I also don’t think people here appreciate big debates taking place in the middle of their threads in the one place generally safe from “shills” trying to debunk everything. I try to respect your space.
If you have specific things you want my take on, I’m happy to do it in a designated thread in a couple of days once I can use a laptop again.
My friend, you can let your reddit friends know that any effort on their part is nothing short of futile. You can't outsmart us nor can you hope to counter us.
Nothing can stop what is coming. The only question here is: will you choose a side and be victorious or will you fade into eventual obscurity as an outcast?
You would be wise to remember the story of the soldier who had allegiance to two countries and what happened to his body after he died.
Sounds like you're doing exactly what you accuse us of. You (we) disbelieve everything Q (the media) says without consideration solely based on a limited set of inaccuracies.
If that were true, I wouldn’t have been hanging out with you guys for the last few years and spending far more time than I need to talking respectfully with you about it here right now.
You have the entire internet. We are here because we have gone through your arguments on the entire internet. Leave us be.