I work at one of the big 3 and some of us believe this is a deliberate shortage. It has to be coordinated. No way auto manufacturers would do this without some incentives from the government.
If they were available I would buy a computer free car. The problem is all the regulations put in place by unelected people have made them mandatory to meet epa guidelines. Believe it or not 70% of the people in the plant I’m at are Trump supporters.
Same goes for my new washer. Needed a repair call after only 5 months. My last Maytag lasted 20 years. All the hoses and mechanisms work, but the computer needed recalibrated.
It's more than just chips that are in short supply. To me and my conspiratorial mind, it's looking like a designed supply crunch in order to precipitate an unknown agenda, perhaps an economic crash or something?
Reminds me of a post a couple months back: there was someone working for a medical equipment supply company who said something similar that the owners were suddenly in no hurry to ramp up production like they didn't expect to actually need to fulfill the current demand anymore later in the year.
Did they finally notice that people gave up buying new cars every year? As they were pushed to do in the 1950s. Vance Packard noticed this and called it "planned obsolescence."
My 2 cents. No need to have all those need cars when the population won’t be able to buy them or be around to buy them. Why would they want so much surplus on hand? The demand is about to fall to the floor.
Yeah if they see 2008 Part 2 right around the corner they don't want to be again in the position of having to beg people to buy them at steep discounts just to get the cars off the lot.
Computers that are so intertwined with vehicles that they are a huge risk and vulnerability was a precursor of what we now see with these shitty 'internet of things' devices that have either become hostile like the amazon ones that all network and spy on you without your consent, and/or merely a security/hack risk.. like all the baby monitor devices or doorbell cameras that somehow end up being controlled over the internet by malicious parties.
No good reason to saddle a car with such a shitty thing like a computer that can remotely fuck with the driver, make brakes fail, screw up accelerations and steering and anything else. Supposedly this is how Michael Hastings was assassinated, and conceivably it could happen to anyone else in a modern enough car also.
Fuck that noise, I dont mind seeing the industry fail if they cant make safe cars that dont have little trojan spyware/assassin devices built into them.
My thoughts also. Get rid of the chips in the cars. The older cars didn't need them. They only add to the cost and as we see now, possibly can bring the entire production to a stand still.
How long has international trade been down for.. a good year and a half? Some period of shipping delays and cancellations are tolerable as local inventories of these essential parts can suffice for a short amount of time. But not forever.
And now china is flexing on taiwan, and japan is being threatened with nukes. A lot of chip fabs in both of those places. That cant help matters.
The parts might have their own part numbers and their own in-house designs, but how different would the actual component loadouts be? Its entirely plausible that a couple of key parts that all depend on are made at only one place in the world.. that flew under the radar entirely until the supply chain took a big hit.
I'm going with Hanlon's razor on this one - 'dont attribute to malice which can adequately be described by stupidity'. At least until there is more info available.
I'm going with Hanlon's razor on this one - 'dont attribute to malice which can adequately be described by stupidity'. At least until there is more info available.
So...
All the car manufacturers in the world suddenly become incompetent morons.
They didn't have any trouble getting the other needed items for their manufacturing because of the virus, just this one.
Even though the car designs use different chips, they all were suddenly unattainable.
Sorry, this is NOT stupidity. That is not credible.
Have you not heard about shortages in other industries? Just in time manufacturing and globalism is one hell of a vulnerability when it comes to security of ones parts sourcing.
Nothing sudden about it by the way, as I said the build up for this one has been a while coming.
INDUSTRIAL FIRES!!! A plant in Japan burned down causing the shortage of chips. Look up industrial fires they are up 67% from 2019 to 2020. Its the number one reason for supply chain disruptions. Covid is number 5. My theory is due to lack of workers/sick workers/covid... Tom or lin wang or whoever that usually greases the air handler didnt make it to work for whatever reason and well she got hot. Here is a company that tracks this stuff.
https://www.resilinc.com
If I could buy my 20 year old s10 off the lot today, I would be jumping up and down screaming take my money. Maybe a 4x4 one this time, but otherwise it’s literally perfect.
No thanks. I don't particularly care for internal combustion engines but I really don't like the ones like my Dodge Dart with a 318 v8 which would on occasion decide that it didn't feel like starting. And my Lyman boat with a Continental L-head and a Carter BB1 that also gives me crap all the time.
Every vehicle I own that is fuel injected starts up instantly every time.
That is badass! Straight 6? I like all that old pre war technology, I'm always amazed with how advanced capabilities were with manufacturing and design. the one thing I like about old flatheads is how simple they are and how easy they are to work on. I like to try and keep my options for transportation open if/when things get dicey and I need to stay off the radar.
it is a sturdy beast but the power to weight ratio is not the best. I think what I like the best is the sound from the exhaust which you can hear at the end of the video.
There's nothing sweeter than that Flathead sound. LoL, power to weight... I think the saying in the Flathead world goes, "I've never spent so much money to go so slow."
I have cars that almost a hundred years old with carbs and I have never had to be towed home.
I never had to be towed. I always got it started. I had to keep alligator clips around to bypass the ballast resistor, and a pen to hold the choke open so it wouldn't flood. Eventually I just removed the automatic choke and rigged up a manual one.
In the end, the chassis rusted out and the torsion bar broke free. I welded it but the car was never the same again. I parked it at the lake and somebody actually stole it.
It had a 225 slant six. That wouldn't start. That would hesitate and stall out in intersections. It got 11 miles per gallon and terrible acceleration. The dealership could not fix it. My dad who was a pretty good amateur mechanic couldn't fix it.
The car was either defective or very poorly designed.
She eventually sold it at a great loss and bought a little red Honda CVCC hatchback with a manual transmission that she drove for 200k miles without no problems but body rust.
There are cars that are lemons right out of the factory. Unfortunately, you probably got a lemon with that wagon but Plymouths of that era were not known for their reliability.
It was a forest green Dodge Dart Custom 4 door with the chrome around the windows. I though the four door was much better looking that the 2 door 'swingers'.
Also that garbage efficiency means less horsepower. One upside to the pursuit of furl efficiency is that we can squeeze so much more power out of smaller engines, my V6 produces more power than V8s twice it's size did 40 years earlier.
There are. Three in the Northeast I've personally been in. Two of the three are almost 100% automated- it only takes 20-30 people to oversee a 500k sq. ft. factory floor, and they're all six-figure salary types.
But... none of them are cutting edge 14/12/10nm process. I think GlobalFoundries got 16nm online right before the coof and had layoffs. So they're not producing latest-gen processors; they're geared more toward microcontrollers, memory, and comm chips.
This, like everything else happening right now, is a feature, not a flaw, in the program.
My county library director issued a big no to my request that we put this book on the shelf....all the more confirmation that it is one we ALL need to read and study and master in terms of the techniques offered to begin to combat this plan.
This conflicts with what I am hearing from industry insiders. I am being told that the Top5 have never stopped manufacturing and as the chips become available - really soon now - the new car market is going to get flooded with new fleets.
Anybody have any real intel here? Outside of the MSM is reporting?
I work at one of the big 3 and some of us believe this is a deliberate shortage. It has to be coordinated. No way auto manufacturers would do this without some incentives from the government.
If they were available I would buy a computer free car. The problem is all the regulations put in place by unelected people have made them mandatory to meet epa guidelines. Believe it or not 70% of the people in the plant I’m at are Trump supporters.
Have to go back to the early 80’s.
I’m not worried about wirelessly manipulation, I would like to be able to repair my own vehicle.
I would pay a premium on cars without chips. If such a thing is even possible still in current year.
Same goes for my new washer. Needed a repair call after only 5 months. My last Maytag lasted 20 years. All the hoses and mechanisms work, but the computer needed recalibrated.
Agreed, same thing happened with lumber, which is now reversing artificial earlier shortage trends.
It's more than just chips that are in short supply. To me and my conspiratorial mind, it's looking like a designed supply crunch in order to precipitate an unknown agenda, perhaps an economic crash or something?
I'm thinking that the executives know that an economic crash is about to be foisted on us and they don't want to be stuck with the inventory.
Reminds me of a post a couple months back: there was someone working for a medical equipment supply company who said something similar that the owners were suddenly in no hurry to ramp up production like they didn't expect to actually need to fulfill the current demand anymore later in the year.
Did they finally notice that people gave up buying new cars every year? As they were pushed to do in the 1950s. Vance Packard noticed this and called it "planned obsolescence."
"Hidden Persuaders" is a great read. I read it back in the 80s and I wish I still had my paperback copy.
Could it be that they sold so many cars during Covid that they’re not forecasting much demand for next year?
That's what I think. Take down the big three the industrialized United States is finished.
My 2 cents. No need to have all those need cars when the population won’t be able to buy them or be around to buy them. Why would they want so much surplus on hand? The demand is about to fall to the floor.
Yeah if they see 2008 Part 2 right around the corner they don't want to be again in the position of having to beg people to buy them at steep discounts just to get the cars off the lot.
This is logical thinking. The plan is for us to all live in smart cities. Personal vehicles are designed to become a thing of the past.
https://www.amazon.com/Behind-Green-Mask-U-N-Agenda/dp/0615494544
They have not brought us there yet but that is absolutely the direction we are going.
Computers that are so intertwined with vehicles that they are a huge risk and vulnerability was a precursor of what we now see with these shitty 'internet of things' devices that have either become hostile like the amazon ones that all network and spy on you without your consent, and/or merely a security/hack risk.. like all the baby monitor devices or doorbell cameras that somehow end up being controlled over the internet by malicious parties.
No good reason to saddle a car with such a shitty thing like a computer that can remotely fuck with the driver, make brakes fail, screw up accelerations and steering and anything else. Supposedly this is how Michael Hastings was assassinated, and conceivably it could happen to anyone else in a modern enough car also.
Fuck that noise, I dont mind seeing the industry fail if they cant make safe cars that dont have little trojan spyware/assassin devices built into them.
My thoughts also. Get rid of the chips in the cars. The older cars didn't need them. They only add to the cost and as we see now, possibly can bring the entire production to a stand still.
So you believe that all the car manufacturers didn't see any shortage coming and they all just dropped the ball?
All of them, even though they use different parts.
How long has international trade been down for.. a good year and a half? Some period of shipping delays and cancellations are tolerable as local inventories of these essential parts can suffice for a short amount of time. But not forever.
And now china is flexing on taiwan, and japan is being threatened with nukes. A lot of chip fabs in both of those places. That cant help matters.
The parts might have their own part numbers and their own in-house designs, but how different would the actual component loadouts be? Its entirely plausible that a couple of key parts that all depend on are made at only one place in the world.. that flew under the radar entirely until the supply chain took a big hit.
I'm going with Hanlon's razor on this one - 'dont attribute to malice which can adequately be described by stupidity'. At least until there is more info available.
So...
All the car manufacturers in the world suddenly become incompetent morons.
They didn't have any trouble getting the other needed items for their manufacturing because of the virus, just this one.
Even though the car designs use different chips, they all were suddenly unattainable.
Sorry, this is NOT stupidity. That is not credible.
Have you not heard about shortages in other industries? Just in time manufacturing and globalism is one hell of a vulnerability when it comes to security of ones parts sourcing.
Nothing sudden about it by the way, as I said the build up for this one has been a while coming.
There are chip fabs all over the world.
And none of the car manufacturers could anticipate it. They all were caught flat-footed?
I don't buy it. I don't know what is going on, but I do not believe it is simple incompetence.
Hanlon's razor is a victim of itself ....
INDUSTRIAL FIRES!!! A plant in Japan burned down causing the shortage of chips. Look up industrial fires they are up 67% from 2019 to 2020. Its the number one reason for supply chain disruptions. Covid is number 5. My theory is due to lack of workers/sick workers/covid... Tom or lin wang or whoever that usually greases the air handler didnt make it to work for whatever reason and well she got hot. Here is a company that tracks this stuff. https://www.resilinc.com
Even at current prices (still not back to Obama levels yet) it's still cheaper to fuel my old paid off car than to replace it.
If I could buy my 20 year old s10 off the lot today, I would be jumping up and down screaming take my money. Maybe a 4x4 one this time, but otherwise it’s literally perfect.
No thanks. I don't particularly care for internal combustion engines but I really don't like the ones like my Dodge Dart with a 318 v8 which would on occasion decide that it didn't feel like starting. And my Lyman boat with a Continental L-head and a Carter BB1 that also gives me crap all the time.
Every vehicle I own that is fuel injected starts up instantly every time.
Flatheads are where it's at... When I get it finished I'm gonna daily drive my 38 Ford as much as I can and park my new vehicle
You might like this 22 second video of mine then:
https://rumble.com/vk5du4-1956-lyman-engine-idle.html
That is badass! Straight 6? I like all that old pre war technology, I'm always amazed with how advanced capabilities were with manufacturing and design. the one thing I like about old flatheads is how simple they are and how easy they are to work on. I like to try and keep my options for transportation open if/when things get dicey and I need to stay off the radar.
Here's a better view of the engine:
https://rumble.com/vk5f84-lyman-engine-running-in-front-yard.html
It definitely sounds like those old banger motors from the Model A's. I bet it sounds pretty good when you wind it up.
It's a four.
60 hp I believe.
it is a sturdy beast but the power to weight ratio is not the best. I think what I like the best is the sound from the exhaust which you can hear at the end of the video.
There's nothing sweeter than that Flathead sound. LoL, power to weight... I think the saying in the Flathead world goes, "I've never spent so much money to go so slow."
Ha ha ha LOL
Your first mistake was buying a Dodge, second was not finding someone that could adjust a carb properly.
I have cars that almost a hundred years old with carbs and I have never had to be towed home.
LOL, I loved that car.
I never had to be towed. I always got it started. I had to keep alligator clips around to bypass the ballast resistor, and a pen to hold the choke open so it wouldn't flood. Eventually I just removed the automatic choke and rigged up a manual one.
In the end, the chassis rusted out and the torsion bar broke free. I welded it but the car was never the same again. I parked it at the lake and somebody actually stole it.
Sounds like, despite the troubles you were fond of the car.
A properly sorted car, no matter the age, can be quite reliable. They were when they were new.
I don't agree. My mother bought a new Plymouth Volare station wagon when I was a kid.
It looked exactly like this one:
https://barnfinds.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/1979-plymouth-volare-wagon.jpg
It had a 225 slant six. That wouldn't start. That would hesitate and stall out in intersections. It got 11 miles per gallon and terrible acceleration. The dealership could not fix it. My dad who was a pretty good amateur mechanic couldn't fix it.
The car was either defective or very poorly designed.
She eventually sold it at a great loss and bought a little red Honda CVCC hatchback with a manual transmission that she drove for 200k miles without no problems but body rust.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/67/10/0e/67100eb048e73766844d8da184dc99fc.jpg
My mom and I went drove to Florida and into the mountains for camping trips. What a great little car. I learned to drive in that car.
There are cars that are lemons right out of the factory. Unfortunately, you probably got a lemon with that wagon but Plymouths of that era were not known for their reliability.
Oh yes, I loved the car.
It was a forest green Dodge Dart Custom 4 door with the chrome around the windows. I though the four door was much better looking that the 2 door 'swingers'.
https://s.car.info/image_files/960/dodge-dart-4-door-sedan-front-side-nassjo-cruising-2019-1-768026.jpg
That's the funny thing about cars. No one wanted to keep the 4 doors around because they were just not desirable at the time.
Fast forward 40 years and now the 4 doors are starting to get some love because there are just so few left.
The Darts of that vintage were decent runners that lasted a long, long time if properly taken care of.
I like fixing stuff, but damn I hate adjusting carburetors.
Also that garbage efficiency means less horsepower. One upside to the pursuit of furl efficiency is that we can squeeze so much more power out of smaller engines, my V6 produces more power than V8s twice it's size did 40 years earlier.
There are NOT high volume chip foundries in the US because YOU would not tolerate the working conditions. See the Foxconn flap in Wisconsin.
There are. Three in the Northeast I've personally been in. Two of the three are almost 100% automated- it only takes 20-30 people to oversee a 500k sq. ft. factory floor, and they're all six-figure salary types.
But... none of them are cutting edge 14/12/10nm process. I think GlobalFoundries got 16nm online right before the coof and had layoffs. So they're not producing latest-gen processors; they're geared more toward microcontrollers, memory, and comm chips.
.. at Chinese payrates.
Supply lines usually get cut in a war.
These activities are features, not flaws, in the program.
https://www.amazon.com/Behind-Green-Mask-U-N-Agenda/dp/0615494544
Economic downturn/crash, to be blamed on Buy-den and the Dims. Still way too many sheeple sleepwalking their way through their lives... wakey wakey...
This, like everything else happening right now, is a feature, not a flaw, in the program.
My county library director issued a big no to my request that we put this book on the shelf....all the more confirmation that it is one we ALL need to read and study and master in terms of the techniques offered to begin to combat this plan.
https://www.amazon.com/Behind-Green-Mask-U-N-Agenda/dp/0615494544
https://www.democratsagainstunagenda21.com/the-way-we-see-itour-blog/how-do-you-know-youve-been-taken-over#comments
Wonder if they are halting production in US to ship back to Mexico or other inexpensive countries as materials and labor prices continue to skyrocket?
You'll own nothing, and you'll be happy.
LOL, I'll bet they regret ever making that video.
https://youtu.be/8mMIocEGGM0?t=12
Idiots. They think the idea of owning nothing at being at the mercy of landlords and woke businesses like Uber and Lyft is appealing to people.
This conflicts with what I am hearing from industry insiders. I am being told that the Top5 have never stopped manufacturing and as the chips become available - really soon now - the new car market is going to get flooded with new fleets.
Anybody have any real intel here? Outside of the MSM is reporting?
Perfect time to bring back mechanically based cars
LOL silicon nice one, fren