For context, she’s a 63 year old nurse. We got into it because she keeps pushing me to get the vaccine. I keep telling her that I am never getting it, and I have thoroughly read and studied for months in support of my decision. So she asks me to send her my sources. I spent an hour last night re-reading journal articles and mainstream news source articles that link back to university and governmental studies. Sources such as the NIH, CDC, etc. I then placed them in a specific order so that they supported each other and my brief, educated assertions typed above the links.
Her response after all of that effort, effort that would’ve gotten me an A in any college course? “These aren’t .gov or .edu sources” “I’m concerned that you only read sources you agree with”
Mother of GOD, these people are DENSE. THE GOVERNMENT AND UNIVERSITIES ARE THE PROBLEM. THEY’RE SKEWING THE DATA. THE SOURCES FORMED MY OPINION, not the other way around. There’s no convincing them otherwise. Sorry for the yelling, this is just insane. She also brushed off the lockdowns and vaccine passports like they’re nothing to worry about and people protesting are just prolonging the pandemic 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️
As requested, my sources and synopsis in an easy to access location.
PCR test deemed ineffective for the purpose of diagnosing cases of Covid. This is a Class I recall and revocation of the Emergency Use Authorization for the PCR technology as a diagnostic tool in this instance.
Confronting the myth of unvaccinated people driving the formation of variants.
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/vaccinated-covid-mutations-immune-response/
EUA (Emergency Use Authorization) for vaccines is only allowed in the absence of viable treatments. The effectiveness of Ivermectin has been suppressed, thus, the EUA for the Covid vaccines is ILLEGAL according to the government’s own standards. Why is this allowed?
https://bmcinfectdis.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12879-021-06104-9
As for chloroquine (of which the much-maligned Hydroxychloroquine is a milder derivative) it was deemed to be a potent SARS inhibitor by none other than Dr. Fauci’s NIH. Note that in the Children’s Health Defense article, those recovered from SARS (80% similar to C19) demonstrated immunity 17 years later to SARS-CoV-2. It follows that Chloroquine and Hydroxychloroquine are effective treatments for Covid due to its similarities to SARS. This takes us right back to the illegal EUA for the vaccines, and the countless lives lost in pursuit of it.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1232869/
Those in the placebo group will still be granted a vaccine passport in the UK...this makes no sense.
Is the disease worse than the “jab”? The CDC is NOT gathering consistent data on hospitalizations for vaccine-related health events. Why not? What are they hiding?
https://aapsonline.org/covid-19-is-the-disease-worse-than-the-jab/
Doctors across the world have been pushing the vaccine on their pregnant patients for months and declaring it safe, yet Moderna is JUST starting trials on pregnant women?! There is NO data definitively declaring this safe for expectant mothers and their babies. THAT is the ethical violation I referenced. These are experimental vaccines and therefore informed consent is paramount so that those in receipt of them know the risks of consenting.
This Twitter thread with graphed data from government sources supporting the author’s assertions. Mostly or completely vaxxed populations are experiencing a high number of cases, while countries with a lower overall vax percentage have remained largely unchanged.
Thread by @holmenkollin on Thread Reader App – Thread Reader App
All viral illnesses can have negative impacts on pregnancy. There is really nothing that can be done to prevent this beyond working to maintain a strong immune system. I could get the Covid vaccine, sure, but end up with viral meningitis or the flu—life is full of risk, illness, and danger, and Covid is just one of millions of viruses that can infect vertebrates. I am not compounding that risk by taking an experimental vaccine, with NO idea what the long term effects on my body or the bodies of my future children will be. I would much rather take my chances with what is known.
https://www.jci.org/articles/view/87490
As for your position as a BSN—I respect that deeply. However, a medical professional that is using coercive measures to get a patient to consent to an experimental substance entering their body is against everything the field should stand for.
“Be not afraid” —St. John Paul the Great
This is actually a powerful rebuttal. They are always too lazy, too brainwashed, or too stupid to read/analyze/comprehend the info we send. The most effective tool I’ve used against them is saying “No, No, No.... that’s been debunked. Their head can not comprehend their most useful method of rebuttal being used against them. They will either a) quit using that particular talking point (believing its been debunked), or b) seek out on their own quest to validate their belief (which should expose the truth)
"My mind is made up. Don't confuse me with the facts."
I have a group of friends I talk with for hours every week. They all have PhDs or are attornies. They are professors and department heads at major universities. None of them has an open mind.
They all went for doubles of mRNA and some are having reactions.
All of them are 4 - 6%ers.
They are all dear friends, some of them lifelong friends, and I hope they all make it through the coming months without major damage - but I doubt that will be the case.
We're learning a lot about human nature these days.
My sister and brother in law are these types. I believe that it's as simple as, they've invested a lot of their time and money getting degrees, and they really think that the authorities they've been educated by and put their trust in are the last word. It never occurs to them that large corporations and industries donate to their respective universities for a reason. I hate that people I love have been so indoctrinated that it's crippled their ability to think critically. Of course, they think I'm crazy and anything I have to say is "fringy." Guess we'll see....
I know the type. A college degree is the ticket to everlasting wisdom. Even if they never learn another da.n thing in 30 years they believe they're it.
A terrible, wonderful time to be alive and aware 💔
Right? I feel so blessed, as if I won the lottery.
It was the best of times, it was the worst of times.
What I see here is the fact that a degree doesn’t make you smart!
Jaques ellul and Ted kacyinski both talked about these kind of people. They are over socialized. They are too invested in being their role that they play in society, and will sacrifice anything and everything to keep their status and sense of superiority. Dostoyevsky covers this a bit in one of his novels as well.
I hate that word soooooo much. Debunk. I only started hearing it around 9/11 “truthers”...another way we are insulted.
Am i the only one who never heard that word before? Debunked. It sounds retarded...
I debunked myself once. Its a long fall and you don't wake up till you hit the ground so its always an unprotected faceplant for kids cause they're heads are cartoonishly big.
KEK
truther, anti-_____, _____ denier, etc. Know that you are dealing with people that have ZERO facts on their side and a lot to hide.
They so dumb
Made me think of this Seinfeld:
Jerry: I thought the whole dream of dating a doctor was debunked.
Elaine: No, it's not debunked, it's totally bunk.
Jerry: Isn't bunk bad? Like, that's a lot of bunk.
George: No something is bunk and then you debunk it.
Jerry: What?
Elaine: Huh?
A friend of mine in 11th grade specifically tried to make “bunk” a thing because she saw it on seinfeld...and it totally was a thing within our friend group. You just blew my mind 🤣
Debunk and fact check were making me go a little crazy for awhile.
That "no, no, no" always fucking pisses me off. Have a damn coworker that is his go to response, whenever contradictory, factual information is presented to him.
How about the totally annoying "I don't know what news you're watching...."
I don’t watch news. I look at stats and data.
OMG sooo true
They won't find the real Information. They are all using Google. My mother is the same as the OP and if it doesn't come up in a top 5 search on Google it isn't seen. They don't know how to research.
And they haven't been taught how to analyze raw data or look at how a source weighted its data in an algorithm or skewed a chart or used a small unrandom sample size, etc.
If they use Google they will find pages and pages of how safe, effective and important the Covid jab is. Also stuffed with information debunking any bad news. I can see how a normie would not know.
I'm here because of my sons.
This ^
If they try to claim you don't have the sources, after offering original info, then simply tell them that Clean Bloods have no need to engage in the tantrums of Smooth Brains.
I used the “debunked” move back in 2014 when a friend’s wife brought up the supposed gender pay gap. I even had her wonder why there aren’t all-female companies using their lower payrolls to dominate their respective markets. That got the hamster spinning.
Hopefully the hamster churned up some reality, rather than just getting better at mental gymnastics.
I think she came around, or at least she didn’t bring up the topic again
Fantastic.
hahaha, i'm gonna start using that with these fools that call us anti vax conspiracy theorists ... thank you
Only thing you can do is pray for your aunt. Shes sucked into the matrix.