There are a few things that you can observe that indicate a globe:
Time of the day is the same for everyone in your longitude
The peak angle of the sun is the same for everyone in your latitude
You can see all of the stars at night from the equator, but as you move toward the poles the amount of stars that you can see diminishes gradually to 50% visible at the poles.
When a ship departs the harbor, the lower section appears to drop beneath the horizon before the upper section
Solar eclipses are only visible in certain areas, but lunar eclipses are visible across the entire night side of the Earth
I'm on the fence. But I'll bite since no one tried.
Unsure. But a common flat earth model is built of a hyperboloid torus field that radiates following longitude
Latitude is just the same distance from the center of the north pole. Like a circle drawn with a compass. It makes sense the sun would have the same peak angle?
I'm not sure to be honest. But the equator is a location centered between north pole and south outskirts as stars rotate overhead. There's simply too much atmosphere for us to see across the plane (from the south to the north). Farthest things also disappear into the horizon
"Ships disappear from the bottom". This is an element of perspective. All things disappear towards the horizon / vanishing point. We can see the top of a ship because of the angle. There are TONS of clips where a powerful telescope can bring that ship into view.
Haven't looked into it sorry. My counter question would be A) How do Selenelion Eclipses work (just refraction?)? The sun and the moon can be seen in the sky, and there's some where the shadow emerges from the TOP of the moon (should be the bottom)? Also what about all the amateur astronomers who have reported seeing stars THROUGH the moon (plasma?)?
My questions for the globe model to explain.
Where is the curvature of the earth, measured over water (land has varying elevations, water finds its level)?
We should have 8 inches of curvature over a mile squared. Yet we don't see that drop. Telescopes bring ships miles away back into view when they should be "over the horizon". Suez canal is 200 miles long and is built without accommodation of a curve
The sun, why can we see divergent rays? Flat earthers argue this points to a local sun. Globe earth model is the sun is 93 million miles away, so we get parallel rays. Some would say "refraction" for the divergent rays, but then why don't we see crossing rays? Parallel rays should hit earth at every inch of earth
How haven't the constellations changed in thousands of years? Pyramids of Giza are lined up with Orions belt. The Georgia Guidestones perfectly show the north star. Spinning earth, around sun, as solar system moves through milky way, as milky way moves through the universe, with stars of varying distances away. And why don't the stars move through the sky in a random, winding path?
How do you have a vacuum next to atmosphere? Physics tells us pressure should equalize. If this "container" or van allen belt is that strong it can contain atmosphere, how did we pass through it?
Please spend one hour and watch this short documentary, then come back and debunk flat earth. Your arguments aren't very good arguments and I'd hate for you to look like a fool. If you really want to engage people it's very important to understand what they believe and why. It will be well worth your time and you might formulate some better arguments. https://rumble.com/vi4xo3-level-2021-flat-earth-documentary-hd.html
I know the truth...you know what you have been taught to believe..if you don't care enough to formulate a decent argument, then that's on you my friend. I have no problem shaking the sand off my sandals and moving on. Have a wonderful day!
That's true, but it's not relevant as to why time is the same for everyone at your longitude.
The sun rises in the East, peaks at approximately noon, and sets in the West. Every point directly North or South of you experiences the sun peaking at the same moment in time. This also means that everyone in longitudes further East or further West of you experiences it at a different time, and people halfway around the world from you experience it 12-hours offset from when you do.
This is easily explained with a globe. But not so with a flat Earth.
Every one of these kindergarten level happenings have been proven to work only on a flat earth. But you retarded numpties will never put the research in to learn. Your indoctrination is compete. You are a tool.
I'm not advocating for one side or the other and as I've said before, I don't really care to have a rigid belief until I do more research (so I just lean towards globe for now). I just don't really know that belief for or against a particular model has any bearing on my life at this point.
In saying that, can't you appreciate that it doesn't help when you come right out with insults and ad-hominem? I just don't see the value in it and in fact there are some pretty obvious downsides to acting so hostile.
Polaris happens to be located at a point that aligns with the North pole if the North pole were to be extended many light-years from the surface of the Earth.
There are stars in nearly all directions. Is it so hard to believe that one would align with the axis of the earth?
Btw, Sigma Octantis is the star aligned with the South pole.
Polaris just happens to be the star in that spot now, and it's not exactly perfect, it does move a very slight amount. You're right that the Earth's axis wobbles. 5000 years ago Thuban was the North Star.
The wobble in the Earth's axis exists, but it is very slow.
Since Polaris is so very much farther away from Earth than the Sun, the angle Polaris makes with one end of Earth's orbital path to the opposite end of said path is nearly 0°, hence it doesn't appear to move. This is what I understand from Beerman's math.
There are a few things that you can observe that indicate a globe:
I'm on the fence. But I'll bite since no one tried.
My questions for the globe model to explain.
We should have 8 inches of curvature over a mile squared. Yet we don't see that drop. Telescopes bring ships miles away back into view when they should be "over the horizon". Suez canal is 200 miles long and is built without accommodation of a curve
The sun, why can we see divergent rays? Flat earthers argue this points to a local sun. Globe earth model is the sun is 93 million miles away, so we get parallel rays. Some would say "refraction" for the divergent rays, but then why don't we see crossing rays? Parallel rays should hit earth at every inch of earth
How haven't the constellations changed in thousands of years? Pyramids of Giza are lined up with Orions belt. The Georgia Guidestones perfectly show the north star. Spinning earth, around sun, as solar system moves through milky way, as milky way moves through the universe, with stars of varying distances away. And why don't the stars move through the sky in a random, winding path?
How do you have a vacuum next to atmosphere? Physics tells us pressure should equalize. If this "container" or van allen belt is that strong it can contain atmosphere, how did we pass through it?
You've defined Latitude.
Longitude is your angular distance from an imaginary line that connects the North and South Poles through Greenwich, England.
Thank you
I'm on the fence too but number 3 makes me baffled as well
Please spend one hour and watch this short documentary, then come back and debunk flat earth. Your arguments aren't very good arguments and I'd hate for you to look like a fool. If you really want to engage people it's very important to understand what they believe and why. It will be well worth your time and you might formulate some better arguments. https://rumble.com/vi4xo3-level-2021-flat-earth-documentary-hd.html
No thanks.
I'm not going to spend an hour watching a video that you say will prove your point.
If you want to say I'm wrong, please explain how I'm wrong in the reply box.
I know the truth...you know what you have been taught to believe..if you don't care enough to formulate a decent argument, then that's on you my friend. I have no problem shaking the sand off my sandals and moving on. Have a wonderful day!
My argument is right here: https://greatawakening.win/p/12jcvW6KXs/x/c/4JBwmjsuCbC
You replied to it with an hour long video link. That's not an argument. Tell us what arguments are in the video if you can't formulate your own.
Says the guy who cant form a coherent argument himself as has to post a movie to prove his point. Alls it proves is that youre gullible
Time is a social construct. The reason it’s the same time of day for others at your longitude is because people took a flat map and drew some lines.
That's true, but it's not relevant as to why time is the same for everyone at your longitude.
The sun rises in the East, peaks at approximately noon, and sets in the West. Every point directly North or South of you experiences the sun peaking at the same moment in time. This also means that everyone in longitudes further East or further West of you experiences it at a different time, and people halfway around the world from you experience it 12-hours offset from when you do.
This is easily explained with a globe. But not so with a flat Earth.
Every one of these kindergarten level happenings have been proven to work only on a flat earth. But you retarded numpties will never put the research in to learn. Your indoctrination is compete. You are a tool.
so then refute each point without calling people "kindergarten retards"...
bet you can't...
we'll wait.
I'm not advocating for one side or the other and as I've said before, I don't really care to have a rigid belief until I do more research (so I just lean towards globe for now). I just don't really know that belief for or against a particular model has any bearing on my life at this point.
In saying that, can't you appreciate that it doesn't help when you come right out with insults and ad-hominem? I just don't see the value in it and in fact there are some pretty obvious downsides to acting so hostile.
Eh, don't give up that easily...they still have hope.
Polaris happens to be located at a point that aligns with the North pole if the North pole were to be extended many light-years from the surface of the Earth.
There are stars in nearly all directions. Is it so hard to believe that one would align with the axis of the earth?
Btw, Sigma Octantis is the star aligned with the South pole.
Polaris just happens to be the star in that spot now, and it's not exactly perfect, it does move a very slight amount. You're right that the Earth's axis wobbles. 5000 years ago Thuban was the North Star.
The wobble in the Earth's axis exists, but it is very slow.
Perhaps Polaris moves in the same line with the Earth's tilt?
Since Polaris is so very much farther away from Earth than the Sun, the angle Polaris makes with one end of Earth's orbital path to the opposite end of said path is nearly 0°, hence it doesn't appear to move. This is what I understand from Beerman's math.
Not true. Polaris is only one of a long line of pole stars
Dude, fucking learn about procession. We have Sumerian astronomical tablets that point to a different North star, for fuck sakes.