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TheBRAINz 12 points ago +27 / -15

The Vatican fought for centuries to keep the Bible under the control of the corrupt clergy and prevent it from being distributed to the masses to preserve the Catholic church's system of control over the population. All the early bible translators were hunted down and killed as "heretics" for translating and distributing hand copied Bibles in the languages spoken by the people. The Vatican outlawed and systematically destroyed these Bibles. Because of the incredible time and cost required to make just one copy by hand, the Vatican was able to slow and mostly prevent the rogue distribution efforts for several centuries . The situation completely changed after the Gutenberg printing press was invented in 1439. The resulting volume and cheap distribution of bibles made their destruction impossible, so the Vatican had to shift tactics. The Jesuits were commisioned to discredit these "heretical" translations through an aggressive international scheme to propogate the heliocentric model of the earth/universe, therby casting shade on the Bibles that people now read for themselves (Bibles that support a geocentric model of the universe). The Vatican claimed only its trained Catholic clergy were capable of correctly interpreting the scripture. The Jesuit message was that "science" clearly supported a heliocentric model of the universe therby discrediting the "heretical" translations and their geocentric (flat earth) cosmology. The Jesuits used this argument to affirm their claim that only the Catholic trained clergy were capable of properly understanding God's word and should continue to be regarded as spiritual authorities. If you do the research, you'll see that the Vatican = Free Masons. Heliocentrism is the psyop.

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Burritoes4everyone 9 points ago +9 / -0

how the flippin floppitty fluesy do you jump from a geocentric viewpoint to a flat earth. Please verify in scripture where it describes a geocentric view as well. I know in job it talks of a circumference but please do verify with precise evidence to back up your statement

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Burritoes4everyone 9 points ago +10 / -1

Was David a philosopher? Could he have used the term World to describe an all encompassing view of all surrounding nature and be describing the natural laws set in place solid and immovable.
Would your view of the sun if you’ve never travelled to far off continents and never had instantaneous connection with them be that the sun hasten to come back to you? Do you not understand that the Creator and God of this universe is outside of both time and space and can stop the sun if he so pleases?

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VetforTrump 0 points ago +3 / -3

Holy men of God spake as they were inspired by the Holy Spirit. It was given by revelation. If it was as the Jesuit say, it would need to be interpreted, God would have clearly told us and he did. We get to choose what to believe. God doesn't lie so I'm sure I'm into the truth. Scientist have a bad average for being right.

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Burto_87 2 points ago +3 / -1

We have about 6 shills in your brigade, or sock puppet accounts. GTFO.

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NanaQ45 1 point ago +2 / -1

Plates are round but NOT spheres. After all the lies we have uncovered, I feel the Bible may be our most accurate history. Lie to me once, shame on you, lie to me twice (and me believe you) shame on me.

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Burritoes4everyone 2 points ago +2 / -0

I still have not heard the explanation of how you can travel across the Pacific to Asia travel through Asia to Eurasia pop out into Europe then travel across the Atlantic and end back up in America. Do you go through some magical warp like pac man. How have we ended up where critical thinking and basic observation are lost, or have they just not left their computer screens and ventured into the world to travel, observe and experience the world as it is.

2 Timothy 3:7 Ever learning and never coming to the knowledge of the truth.

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NanaQ45 1 point ago +2 / -1

Apparently you haven't actually watched any of the experiments. Experiments equal science.

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Burritoes4everyone 2 points ago +2 / -0

Does the experiment involve sailing around the globe? Or traveling across continents? Once again do you go through a time warp that connects you back to the other side?

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NanaQ45 1 point ago +2 / -1

Planes fly over plains. Warp? WTF? Are you stupid? Why would a plane flying from Brisbane to Boston make an emergency landing in Hawaii? All routes are straight lines. Pilots are huge unto flat earth because they FO SEE it!

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4_Justice 4 points ago +5 / -1

What a crock of bullshit

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VetforTrump 3 points ago +5 / -2

Well done and history supports it. People will have to catch up, I don't argue about God's word and it needs no defense.

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bluewhiteandred -2 points ago +3 / -5

Vatican was against translations because they didn't want them to contain errors or heresies (like some modern weird translations)

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VetforTrump 2 points ago +4 / -2

Lmao

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Batoutofhellsing -9 points ago +3 / -12

You're right about the Vatican covering up most of the bible but that's not what they were covering up. It was the fact that god from the bible isn't the supreme creator of the universe, going through Hebrew texts el is different from yahweh. El is the creator of yahweh, and look at the gospel of judas iscariot. It says the same thing. Jesus is the son of the creator of yahweh and satan is equal to yahweh as both are great serpents who are leaders of the seraphim which means fiery serpents. Yahweh and satan are the 7th that rule the 6 in their orders of dark and light. There is a dragon that rules different parts of the world and quetzalcoatl is one. The secret is the pagans were worshipping dragons which is why they demanded blood sacrifice.

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Dashmoomoo 6 points ago +6 / -0

What do you smoke?

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bpsays 4 points ago +4 / -0

The good stuff

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Dashmoomoo 2 points ago +2 / -0

😆

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Slapstick86 3 points ago +3 / -0

The bible is not god's word. It is man's account of what happened. I trust Jesus in the new testament, and know that there are inaccuracies and some strait up lies motivated by hubris in a lot of the other parts. The bible never said this is a book of science, because it's not. Jesus hated men who thought they were holy. Somolan who wrote psalms ended up going against God. The words of Jesus are the only words I take for granted, and guess what, he spoke in proverbs, for those with ears to hear, aka NOT TO BE TAKEN LITERALLY.

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VetforTrump 1 point ago +3 / -2

It's hard for sense knowledged based people tonsee that. But from where I stand it's obvious. The Word of God is the Will of God! I dont break myself on it anymore.

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cryofreeze 1 point ago +4 / -3

For flat earth to be real, all those sailing channels on Youtube would have to be in on it.

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NanaQ45 1 point ago +2 / -1

Apparently you haven't seen their experiments.

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cryofreeze 1 point ago +2 / -1

Could you sail around the world without realizing it's flat?

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Boonhause 1 point ago +3 / -2

Thats how the greeks and other ancient cultures realized pretty fast that it wasnt

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Slyver -4 points ago +12 / -16

Do you mean the same biblical account that was written by the Nicene convention 300 years after the death of Christ led by a self-acclaimed worshiper of the Sun God?

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catsfive 24 points ago +27 / -3

WORD CHOICE... You might want to replace written with assembled. The Bible is an anthology, not a novel.

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Lazarus-IXXI 11 points ago +12 / -1

Praise the lord 🙌

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17SecretSquirrel17 7 points ago +11 / -4

People who claim this actually know better and want to propagate the lies, beware of them. They obviously don't understand the discernment that comes from our Creator. If anyone wants to actually spend an hour and understand why "flat earthers" believe the way they do, then please watch this. Then you can either come back and "debunk" away or be set on your own journey of discovery. ANYONE who simply calls other believers clowns and such, without doing an ounce of actual research, is part of the problem. You are no different than the NPC's that get memed non stop, just living in your world and unwilling to be respectful of other peoples beliefs or to dig deeper and find out why they believe the way they do. There is a great divide of "TRUTH" in this world. One side says you either take their word for it or you are retarded, anti-science, or some sort of a denier...the other says "here's what we believe and why, now please do your own research with an OPEN MIND and decide for yourselves." It's funny how those who call out mental gymnastics of NPC's have no problem with their own mental gymnastics when a truth may potentially invade their little safe spaces. This short one hour movie will answer most of your questions and give you the general gist. BTW..the creator of this film is not religious in any way, so it's not even going into what our Bible teaches us. https://rumble.com/vi4xo3-level-2021-flat-earth-documentary-hd.html

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avenger1977 1 point ago +2 / -1

^^THIS^^

This 2 hour interview supports all this. We've been lied to about pretty much EVERYTHING. Open your mind.

Is the Earth Flat or Round – David Weiss https://steverotter.com/is-the-earth-flat-or-round/

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VetforTrump 0 points ago +3 / -3

It's not being deceived to consider how God made the world. It is being deceived to adhere to fiction that not only can you not prove, but you cannot find biblical backing for. I look to debunk nothing. I could care less if your error goes un checked. However, your own lack of confidence in what you believe is clearly revealed in your judgmental remarks.

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lanalex 2 points ago +3 / -1

This is the way.

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Slyver 0 points ago +8 / -8

I chose my words exactly as I intended them. The Nicene convention (NC) was the final editor of the Bible most people ascribe as "complete". Was it based on previous works? Almost certainly. There is no dispute of that coming from me. But based on previous works and "final edit" means changes were made, or decided upon, or whatever.

The bible describes itself as "complete".

“For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book” (Revelation 22:18-19)

Who ordered that? Who decided that little sentence? Was it in fact the apostle John as many wish to believe (but for which there is much debate)? Did he maybe write it slightly different, but a few word changes made it into a closed circle that would forestall any future questions of the Christian Religion created at the NC? How could such a sentence make sense Prior to when the conventioneers decided on which books to include and which to leave out?

How do you know there weren't many other previous revisions or edits to create the Religion between the time of the original author and the NC? I mean, that is exactly what the NC did: formalize the tenets of the Religion, creating a formal work of dogma which was thereafter used as a means of social control of several continents for almost two millennia.

The bible as known today was a work of dogma created at the convention. A change of phrase here, a word there, can make all the difference in the world. It doesn't take much to completely alter meaning.

It's also very important to realize (which most do, but don't fully grasp) that the entire concept of "the law" part of the bible (Torah) is in large part the Jewish bible. Within it are stories of things like God demanding, or desiring first born son blood sacrifices, etc..

"Oh, but that's just the way the world was then." Really? So God wanted first born son sacrifices just like Molloch?

Look at the original Passover event. The Torah (old Testament) version of the "Creator God" apparently wanted all first born Egyptian sons to die so badly, he sent his angels to kill them all. "Oh, but that was only a last resort because they wouldn't let 'God's chosen people' go" (think about who those people were, one chosen race above all humanity in the entire world). Please note that murder by angel directive is not the same thing as "allowing bad things to happen". This is a direct act of murder by thug. So God wouldn't have killed them all (because presumably such a direct action of murder is bad) if they had only let the people go. God had to choose the lesser of two evils...

What kind of Creator God has to choose the lesser of two evils? Does that make ANY SENSE AT ALL?

Of course, the bible also says "if you run into logic that doesn't allow this book to make sense, take it on faith that the book is right and the logic is wrong".

Where else have we seen such statements?

In no way do I mean to demean the teachings of Christ. I am pointing out possible Luciferian influences in the Bible that creates the Dogma of the Religion. I am not in any way talking about Christ, nor his teachings.

Everyone who thinks the Bible somehow escaped Luciferian influence because the Bible says so when that book was written (final edit) by a self stated worshiper of the Sun God (aka Lucifer in some cultures) is deluding themselves, because that is what that same book told them to do.

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bigtimepie 16 points ago +17 / -1

The bible does not call itself complete; the book of revelation calls itself complete. There was no bible when John wrote the letter.

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Slyver 1 point ago +5 / -4

Perhaps there is debate there, and indeed exactly that debate has happened countless times, but it does in fact say or imply that it is a "completed" work in several places. You have just pointed out how insane it is that billions of people believe they know the truth of the Bible, and yet none of them agree on any of it.

Please note again, I am not talking about the teachings of Jesus. The teachings of Jesus is not the Bible, but a small subsection of it. They may also be found in other books not included in the Nicene Convention final edit of the Bible.

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bigtimepie 5 points ago +6 / -1

You have just pointed out how insane it is that billions of people believe they know the truth of the Bible, and yet none of them agree on any of it.

Correct. Either one interpretation is solely correct, or they are all wrong to varying degrees.

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NanaQ45 1 point ago +2 / -1

Watch the movie The Case for Christ. You'll be shocked! You think you know what they've lied about so far. You don't know shit. Made me become a Christian and I was a HUGE agnostic.

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Burritoes4everyone 3 points ago +5 / -2

You moron. Quit trying to sound smart. Your about as knowledgeable as a hamster on a wheel spinning in circles.

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SpaceManBob 3 points ago +3 / -0

lol somebody sounds triggered.

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Burritoes4everyone 0 points ago +2 / -2

My finger is always on the trigger homie. I’ve been walking around like that dude from falling down wandering aimlessly about looking for a salesman with a bag a dicks, So I can slap him around a little bit to piss him off.

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VetforTrump 2 points ago +3 / -1

His accounting of the history is accurate. Josephus the historian is worth a read for the secular history if .anybsoiritualnevents he witness. Not biblical but eyewitnesses at that time so significant.

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Burritoes4everyone 0 points ago +2 / -2

Sorry replace the word knowledgeable in that statement with useful. intellectual circles to dance around and seem important

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anargumentativebox 3 points ago +4 / -1

I am not going to argue that the Bible was not has been edited to fit the needs of others (I. E. It is theorized the Catholic Chruch / Cabal most likely changed the adversary angels to Satan, created the Lucifer story based off a translation error and changed ghenna to Hell in order to introduce scare tactics and sell indulgences). You will get not disagreement from me there.

However I am of the understanding that the decisions of the Canon were not exclusive to the Nicene council. It is to my recollection that there were many other factors. None the less, you won't get any disagreement from me on the role Constantine played.

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catsfive 3 points ago +5 / -2

Thanks for this. I need to digest this. I have studied the Bible a fair bit, but

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VetforTrump 2 points ago +3 / -1

I think you are correct that many private interpretations have crept into the explanations of Gods Word. Of which God says "no prophesy of the scripture is of any private interpretation."

The Greek word for private is the word idios. Translates to "one's own" as in one's own interpretation. Also, the word idios is the basis for a word we throw sroumd here alot misusing it.

Anyway, the Bible has to interpret itself. In the word, in the verse in the chapter, in the Bible. Thknk first usages... same as a human author.

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Burritoes4everyone 5 points ago +6 / -1

And go look up the Dead Sea scrolls

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Slyver 5 points ago +5 / -0

Pretty sure I mentioned them, albeit not directly. Are you trying to support my point? Thank you!

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Burritoes4everyone 4 points ago +5 / -1

The Dead Sea scrolls verify the accuracy of the biblical text that is still preserved to this day. That means that the text I hold in my hand is accurate therefore your claims of alteration are null and void. Now there has been slight differences through the translation into other languages but with further study into the original words used you can gain the original contest and depth of meaning.

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Slyver 2 points ago +3 / -1

Who told you that is true? Did you read the scrolls yourself? Do you know Hebrew and Greek? Did you translate them? Which version of the Bible do they verify as being exactly accurate?

All Biblical translations make minor modifications. In each sect you can find variation in belief in no small part depending on which is the most common translation that sect uses predominantly. Were the Dead Sea Scrolls a work that substantiated a reasonable similarity with the current Bible? According to documentation yes and no, though I have not translated the actual scrolls myself to corroborate. But that does not in any way change anything I have said. In fact, to a large extent the Dead Sea Scrolls substantiate what I have said.

The DSS that are also found in the Bible are from the Torah. So really it substantiates the Torah, except of course that there are all kinds of extra books and stories in there that have been changed in the current version. What happened to the Book of Jubilees not included in Genesis? Why was the Book of Giants/Book of Enoch left out completely? Why is the Apocryphan not included in the Bible in its entirety? Does this story of Noah and his children not deserve a part there? Is its removal not exactly proof of editing of a larger text?

What about the Book of Mysteries?

Here are two translations of the same passage to show that even among translators, to suggest that the Bible is the exact same as the DSS is utterly ludicrous. One is from here, and one is from the first link above.

This shall be the sign that this shall come to pass : when the sources of evil are shut up and wickedness is banished in the presence of righteousness, as darkness in the presence of light, or as smoke vanishes and is no more, in the same way wickedness will vanish forever and righteousness will be manifest like the sun. The world will be made firm and all the adherents of the secrets of sin shall be no more. True knowledge shall fill the world and there will never be any more folly. This is all ready to happen, it is a true oracle, and by this it shall be known to you that it cannot be averted.

And this shall be the sign for you that these things shall come to pass. When the breed of iniquity is shut up, wickedness shall then be banished by righteousness as darkness is banished by the light. As smoke clears and is no more, so shall wickedness perish for ever and righteousness be revealed like a sun governing the world. All who cleave to the mysteries of sin shall be no more; knowledge shall fill the world and folly shall exist no longer. This word shall surely come to pass; this prophecy is true. And by this may it be known to you that it shall not be taken back

Just in the very beginning it says:

"when the sources of evil are shut up"

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"when the breed of iniquity is shut up"

Sources of evil could be anything. Breed of iniquity sounds like a specific group of people.

Regardless, does this not sound like a prophecy of The Great Awakening to you? It sounds like what is happening to me. Why was this left out of the Bible?

What about the New Jerusalem story? Is that not probably a very important thing to include? Some of it seems to have been rolled up into Revelations (possibly denying a John the Apostle authorship), but I would think that any true biblical scholar would appreciate that there is more to this prophecy than we have been told.

Where in the Dead Sea Scrolls are the texts of Jesus? Oh, that's right. Even though some texts are dated past his death (maybe), there isn't a smidge of a mention of him.

The truth is there is more that was left out of the Bible and is in the Dead Sea Scrolls (DSS) than is verified in any way by them. While some DSS are similar to current texts (largely in the Pentateuch, with a fair bit possibly edited out), they are otherwise almost completely different than the Bible we have today. Not to mention that the vast majority of the DSS didn't make it into the Old Testament at all.

And the OT is really just a Book of Laws (Torah). Why did the Book Of Laws not include all the other Books Of Law that were found in the Dead Sea Scrolls?

The DSS provide more questions than answers with regards to Biblical accuracy. Whatever you have been told about them, I recommend actually reading them or at least a translation of them (all of them) before spouting off how amazingly precise they are to the current Bible (nothing could be further from the truth in the scope of the whole Bible).

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NanaQ45 1 point ago +2 / -1

So, basically, instead of praying and asking for a SPIRITUAL change that you can use, feel, and find peace in, YOU decided to use your physical brain to deny any spiritual reality? Ask God to reveal himself and He will. Scared? Maybe you're more than flesh and bones? You'll never know if you don't try to learn SPIRITUALLY. Pray.

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Slyver 1 point ago +1 / -0

YOU decided to use your physical brain to deny any spiritual reality?

Jump to conclusions much? That is quite a leap from; my statements of "I investigate things and don't close my mind to the evidence" to your assumption of "deny any spiritual reality".

I have denied nothing. I have presented evidence of a deeper truth about a book. If you believe that holding onto your beliefs is more important than looking at evidence, or debating a topic, then you are in good company. Every Branch Covidian does the exact same thing.

Ask God to reveal himself and He will. Scared?

I am afraid of nothing. In fact, I have studied religion for decades, at all levels, with much meditation and/or prayer depending on which period in my life. I have spent years experiencing a deeper, more spiritual communion with "what is", and continue to do so.

Maybe you're more than flesh and bones?

Maybe I am. My mind is certainly open to the possibility. I have seen some evidence that it is so, and I am constantly on the lookout for more such evidence. As I said, I have spent decades of my life looking for such evidence, following both physical and spiritual avenues of exploration.

Assume less about the presenter of evidence, when attempting to discredit evidence you don't like. Present arguments against the evidence, not the presenter of it.

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Burritoes4everyone 0 points ago +1 / -1

So therefore, my friend the question is. How can we put into a colllective work that is of a reasonable size that can be mass distributed but still give the entire and complete context of what the Holy Spirit wanted to impart on a mass scale. The Bible is just a starter pack hombre. It doesn’t say don’t look into these other books and scribes, those books are there for those who desire to seek them out, but the whole message and context of what the gospel is all about is summed up into those book that were chosen. It gives enough context to show the Old Testament and how it was a shadow of the New Testament and pointed to Christ through prophecy, and in fact shows us the verification of the New Testament through the Old Testament.

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Slyver 3 points ago +3 / -0

You have given me your statement of belief. You have provided no evidence to support it, but that does not mean I don't appreciate it. Just recognize it for what it is.

I am a person who investigates the truth. I do not believe I know it. Instead I am providing evidence and logic to support my assessment (not the same as belief, as it is infinitely mutable with new evidence).

You seem to be a person who believes they know the truth (forgive me if my assessment based on your statements is incorrect). I think you do not, but I know literally nothing, so maybe you are correct.

For me, I will continue to look for evidence. If you have any to provide please provide it. I do not consider, "I saw the Holy Spirit move someone" as meaningful evidence.

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Burritoes4everyone -1 points ago +1 / -2

I love how you do that to make yourself sound superior “How do you know what you know is the truth and how do you know they were telling you the truth”

how do you you retard! What if I told you that everything your saying is a lie from someone who wasn’t telling you the truth!

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Slyver 3 points ago +3 / -0

how do you you retard!

I do not. NO one does. That is my entire point. You seem to be reading things I am not saying, and not reading things I am. That may be my fault in my pattern of speech, but something is being lost in translation.

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Burritoes4everyone 0 points ago +2 / -2

I’ll give it to you, you could probably make a pretty good living as a used car salesman. I mean I wouldn’t buy one from you but there’s plenty of gullible people out there.Im sure that’s what your boss says.

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Burritoes4everyone -1 points ago +1 / -2

Let me ask you a question. Have you heard of the red river meeting house revival? Have you heard of the Azusa street revival? Have you studied the moves of the spirit through the ages? So your saying they all had it wrong and the Bible that the Holy Spirit used and baptized throngs of people throughout the ages was wrong? Do you know how many times the gospel and New Testament scrolls were duplicated and from every corner where it reached it was accurately transcribed and we can verify the accuracy of those transcripts through a collective comparison throughout the centuries.

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VetforTrump 0 points ago +1 / -1

And reaffirmed In 482 AD

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Tewdryg 27 points ago +29 / -2

Always knew this. I'd watch the period posting of a flood of 'flat earth' videos and articles only to see them die out for a while. Then after a time period of not seeing them posted, all of a sudden they were back again. This time with new videos. My question was -- Who was funding these elaborate flat earth videos? Let the CIA director from 1981 to 1987 answer this question:

“We’ll Know Our Disinformation Program Is Complete When Everything the American Public Believes Is False.” -- William Colby CIA Director 1981-1987

Do you think Colby said this by accident?

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17SecretSquirrel17 6 points ago +13 / -7

EDIT: Think I misunderstood your comment, but will leave my original, believe we're on the same "team" on this one. No he didn't say this by accident, but it's not quite like you think. The CIA thru NASA has told you that you live on a globe in a vast universe that is ever expanding, that's what they want for your truth. Flat earth isn't new at all, it is the basis of every ancient belief on Earth. I'm old enough to remember that you could search "flat earth" on ewetoob and get actual information, now you search and it hides all actual information and instead gives you hundreds of videos simply calling flat earthers crazy for not believing the science, showing experiments that mean nothing, and claiming flat earth beliefs that aren't even close to true. This problem, just as in all of our problems can be discerned very easily. One side says believe the science or you are a denier, anti science, and of course some kind of bigot. The other side says here's the evidence, dig deeper and learn for yourself because you've been lied to. Not very hard for me to figure out which rabbit hole needs to be looked into.

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RagnarD -2 points ago +5 / -7

Flat earth isn't new at all, it is the basis of every ancient belief on Earth

So is animal sacrifice. Should we bring that back too?

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17SecretSquirrel17 1 point ago +5 / -4

You must raise corn..but that straw man doesn't keep the crows away does it?

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filterbing 24 points ago +27 / -3

Ummm, I'm Flat curious and have put in some hours to the theory, Cabal involvement is pretty much center stage. If you or anyone disagrees, you haven't scratched the surface.

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ThebigLMAOski17 10 points ago +13 / -3

you're right man... all the people in BIG GLOBE and BIG MAP/ATLAS have been raking in the cash from you midway rubes who believe in silly things like gravity and space.

Everyone knows that the flight from the southern tip of africa to the southern tip of south america takes a week with multiple mid-air refueling

duh.

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17SecretSquirrel17 9 points ago +13 / -4

Nothing scarier than knowing you live on the very stationary Earth that God created for mankind, knowing that He is watching, and that some day you will be accountable for your decisions. That all goes away when you are indoctrinated to believe that this whole creation was happenstance, coming from a big bang, you were once primordial goo, and now you are speeding through an ever expanding cosmos whilst traveling around the sun at a very fitting 66,600 MPH at a 66.6 degree angle. The truth is out there.

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Boonhause 1 point ago +2 / -1

This is clearly projection (not a bad thing). You believe a flat earth would vindicate the existence of god, as if people who didnt want to believe wouldn't find another way to rationalize it. God created the earth like all heavenly bodies as a globe, even given all the power and corruption of the cabal covering up a flat earth would be both pointless and logistically impossible. They cant even stop people from talking about it online and making youtube videos about it and shit, how would the stop pilots sailors military and mathematicians from figuring out the lie? The reason this shit is so fringe while being so easily accessible is because its also easily proven false

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yoohoo 1 point ago +1 / -0

Or maybe the MSM/cabal push Round Earth because they like to take God out of it and they want us to fall for "Flat-Earth-Only is Right and Holy" because they want God-believers to look dumb and backwards, causing newcomers to reject Him? Actually, God exists irregardless 😎, and I believe the Earth is perceived as a 3-dimensional object by us 3-dimensional creatures...YET, from a 4-dimensional creature's point of view, the Earth can be seen as truly flat/2-dimensional (where all of its interiors are exposed, too). Of course, as well, the Earth can appear 2-dimensional to us 3-dimensionals if our observation point is on or near enough to its surface, or if we are in space looking at a full Earth phase. Moreover, I view it as charmingly quaint and/or poetic when I read descriptions or see maps of a flat Earth in ancient works.

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ThebigLMAOski17 -4 points ago +6 / -10

since you went there...

who's more scared here... the guy making basic observations of the world around him... or the cultist who buys all the bullshit in a 2000 yr old book written to control idiots so they didn't kill each other or fuck each others wives (so they didn't kill each other).

fields don't plow themselves, it's in societies best interest to keep everyone contained and controlled and not killing each other... religion is essentially a primitive method of control and you're indoctrinated with it.

you've devoted all this time and energy into a fucking fairytale and look how angry and belligerent you're getting about it.

you'll never admit it's a joke because that makes you one, so you lash out and act like a fucking dick to people who don't read the same book as you.

you're like one of those stupid 80's housewives hooked on soap operas who think those people are real and exist and are their friends they need to care about.

look... you've been spamming the living fuck out of this thread in a very short period of time...

you're either a shill here to poison the well, or a you are just a dick who gets angry when people tell you santa isn't real.

you're a mess either way so go fuck yourself.

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carwash10 22 points ago +28 / -6

What part of "everything is a lie" is so hard to comprehend? WHY would they tell us the truth about such an important part of our existence? Anyone who does a dive into the research, and has an open mind will see the truth, its mind boggling how this one lie is so easily accepted, when there is so much evidence to the contrary, but thats fine the TRUTH will come out soon enough

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Lupinate 6 points ago +8 / -2

You need to be more circumspect mate, he's a FET proponent.

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carwash10 5 points ago +14 / -9

Thank you, im mostly a lurker here but i do like the community, i just cant believe people who are all in on Q which has no "proof" so to speak, can just dismiss the flat earth model

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17SecretSquirrel17 0 points ago +5 / -5

Why is that? Care to share with the class Mr. PepeSee?

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Lupinate 7 points ago +7 / -0

https://qalerts.app/?n=2622

Also no proof? Look up the 50 qproofs.

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carwash10 -1 points ago +7 / -8

Tell that to a normie, see what they say, wont believe you because "No proof" same with Flat Earth, although we see the proof

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Lupinate 6 points ago +7 / -1

If normies couldnt understand qproofs, the movement wouldnt be growing globally. And yet it is. If you cant see that, you are blind.

If it was easy to see FET is true, it would be accepted. And yet it isn't.

Reconcile.

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carwash10 5 points ago +9 / -4

Many more people are awakening to flat earth than you think, just like the Q movement, it takes time, baby steps

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Lupinate 5 points ago +6 / -1

Explain mercury's retrograde motion, or any planetary retrograde motion. Something you can see, predict, and plot with a heliocentric ball, but not FET. No one in FET has given me a good explanation of this, and hundreds of astronomers /astrologers pre copernicus and gallieo tried to without success.

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Ang77 4 points ago +5 / -1

They’re not real q followers, the rude ones are from the alphabet agencies, keeping us from having a real discussion.

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carwash10 4 points ago +6 / -2

Is that the same science that tells us about Covid?

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redtoe-skipper 0 points ago +2 / -2

No.

Q.

:-)

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SpaceManBob -1 points ago +1 / -2

No, it's the other kind. The one that's a process and not a religion.

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Burritoes4everyone -1 points ago +1 / -2

Yeah the faucster seems to be duping people with some sort science similar to that method.

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Burritoes4everyone -3 points ago +4 / -7

Thanks for the down vote too it gives me a chuckle to know you got butt hurt by a comment by some anonymous idiot on the internet.

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Lupinate 7 points ago +14 / -7

What part of Q saying flat earth is false explicitly is so hard to comprehend either?

https://qalerts.app/?n=2622

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carwash10 9 points ago +14 / -5

What part of discernment is so hard to understand? Isnt that what Q teaches us, why haven't there been any arrests yet? Timing perhaps?

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Lupinate 2 points ago +6 / -4

Im quite discerning. Its part of why i dont trust FET and consider it a poisoning of the well.

FET also explains how global warming calculations work. If you believe FET is true, you should believe in global warming too then.

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SpaceManBob 0 points ago +4 / -4

Discernment would be recognizing that not every single thing the cabal says or pushes is false and being able to tell what's an actual bullshit conspiracy theory (Read: Flat Earth) vs a theory that has some substance behind it (Read: Not Flat Earth).

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carwash10 1 point ago +5 / -4

So.... not everything the cabal tells us is false, who do you think THEY are? So THEY just happen to tell us the truth on one of the most propagated ideas ever, OK now i believe them HAHA

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AReckoningIsComing 4 points ago +7 / -3

Q also said disinfo is real and necessary...so idk

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AReckoningIsComing 1 point ago +1 / -0

interesting read. Idk, I'll never know for sure. My knowledge of physics,geography and astology will never be sufficient to ever be able to discern what is and isn't true. But fun to think about no less.

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Analophigus 2 points ago +5 / -3

What part about disinformation is necessary do you not understand tho. There are a million reasons why Q didn’t even want to GO THERE yet if the earth IS flat. It can’t be that big of a deal that some folks believe.

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B1GdickBonanza 3 points ago +4 / -1

lets see... public schools = corrupt/lies corporations = corrupt/lies CIA = corrupt/lies FBI = corrupt/lies MI6 = corrupt/lies all govts = corrupt/lies vatican = corrupt/lies EVERYTHING = CORRUPT/LIES ...except NASA!!!

🙄

wakey wakey everybody

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catsfive -1 points ago +1 / -2

Haha, that started out on of different foot for me

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Silver_lyning -2 points ago +4 / -6

This is what opened my eyes to everything is a lie. Or the truth in plan sight, just we mock it bc muh science is smarter

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SpaceManBob 0 points ago +1 / -1

There's a difference between science and Science™

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ATLAS_ONE 18 points ago +21 / -3

What do flat earthers have to say about people who's jobs rely on the Earth being an ellipsoid/geoid? Are we part of the con?

I mean I get it, for 99.999999% of what humans do on Earth, the flat Earth assumption is more than adequate, so I can understand the lack of exposure. But physics becomes a lot more fun when you start working with rotating reference frames and celestial bodies.

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RagnarD 6 points ago +8 / -2

But physics becomes a lot more fun

It also becomes a lot more accurate.

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Judicator 5 points ago +8 / -3

Should make people try long range artillery calculations without accounting for round earth lmao

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Judicator 3 points ago +7 / -4

IKR.

Even fucking artillery tables rely on round earth. It doesn't take being in NASA or some shit to know that the earth is fucking round.

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Judicator 4 points ago +6 / -2

I'll bite.

Source 1:

These are papers written under the premise of a flat earth; that does not mean that they are considering the earth flat, it just means that for the purpose of the work within the paper, they are. For applications where fine precision or low scale engineering is necessary, the inclusion of the more complex factors of a rotating round earth are not necessary, and make the problem more complex. What these papers appear to talk about are phenomenon that are small enough scale that they can be calculated with decent accuracy in a more controlled (flat and non moving earth) environment.

They most certainly leave out n-body calculations in these papers as well (the effects of other planets/moons on the aircraft/etc. in question), does that mean the moon doesn't exist or those effects don't exist? No! It just means that the effects are so marginally small in this application that they can be ignored.

Further articles described here include the effects of air resistance on unguided missiles at extreme altitude (NOT the effects of a round earth), programs to fine tune fly-by-wire adjustments in aircraft (again, earth's roundness is irrelevant), landing in changing wind conditions, and helicopter rotor characteristics.

All simulation relies on simplification. These papers are attempting to derive complex factors into a simplified set of equations and data that could, if need be, be injected into a more complicated system. This cannot be done without isolating those factors as much as possible; in other words, following one of the most fundamental principles of science [keep experiments, etc. to only one variable if you are seeking to determine value for that variable].

Let me ask you a question. If you wanted to figure out how your best friend would react to you buying a new truck of a certain kind, would you take into account what your mother would think in your best friend's reaction? (assuming they're not the same person). No, because the impact of what your mother thinks on what your best friend would think would be minimal. That's what is going on here, as well.

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Context: If this video upload date is accurate to the interview date, Buzz Aldrin would have been 88 years old; you can see that age in how he responds pretty clearly; as with most senior folk, it has reduced the clarity of his speech to some degree. Anyway, here is my interpretation of what is being said here:

The girl: "Why has nobody been to the moon in such a long time?"

Aldrin: "hah! That's not an 8-year-old's question. That's my question [why haven't we gone back to the moon yet]. I wanna know. But I think I know. Because we didn't go there [in a long time]... and that's the way it happened... and if it didn't happen [us going back to the moon], it's nice to know why it didn't happen, so in the future, if we want to keep doing something [going to the moon], we need to know why... something stopped - in the past, we wanted to keep going."

Regardless of your interpretation, it's clear he is struggling to be clear in his response. But it seems pretty clear to me he is reiterating the same question she asked and explaining its importance, likely because he doesn't have an answer for himself. He is saying, "You're right, why didn't we go back to the moon? I think I know, but either way, it's a good question to ask, because, like it or not, we haven't gone back in a long time, and we should look at why if we want to go back again."

Keep in mind this is the same man that, within the past ten years, punched someone for saying he didn't go to the moon. (crappily edited video, but it's the only one I could quickly find: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQKVdVqFZv0)

Is that the way that most DS actors respond when their lies are threatened? Not that I've ever seen, usually they either run, double down, both, or go to the media to slam the guy. They never have the balls to open one on one combat.

Source 3: He's exactly damn right, we didn't even have the tech to put ourselves in space without Russian help until very recently.

Why? 1.) All machines degrade over time. There was no way or reason to preserve a moon rocket all this time; anything from that time would have immensely degraded. 2.) The technology from that time was extremely dangerous and unreliable; there's absolutely no way the risk would be considered acceptable today, given the rate of failure and the level of risk involved for those early rockets. The computer in one is less powerful than the one in a tiny little phone, for God's sake. 3.) The moon landing rockets were also incredibly inefficient; they relied on complex and usually hand calculated math to almost blindly fire someone into the right orbital path to reach the moon. Because of the probability of failure, this meant huge margins were included, either out of error, redundancy, or lack of more efficient calculations (that may have been vastly more complex). 4.) It was really damn expensive, and going to the moon outside of beating the Soviets in what was effectively an engineering race had little to no real purpose, as it isn't exactly hospitable for human beings.

Do we still have the blueprints? Sure. Do we have production lines for the materials and components? No. Do we have any reason to utilize the old rocket versus developing a new one? Definitely not. Why not make a new one, then, you ask?

Funding. Private corporations are working on it, but they're more preoccupied with "cheap" ways of reaching orbit (reusable rockets), and rightfully so. To do anything meaningful on the moon would mean shit loads of stuff sent there, so shitloads of rockets. Without an easy way to orbit, that would be more expensive than anyone is willing to put money into.

There are other teams and plans working on the moon-specific tech, though. They're effectively starting from scratch, because technology available to us is so dramatically different that trying to develop a modern moon rocket from the old would be akin to developing the next generation of fighter jet off of da Vinci's flying machine.

I've watched and listened to hours and hours of flat earth bullshit. The whole time it's constantly partial truths (or flat out lies) that I am pulling out, and it's like pulling nails. Inaccuracy passed off as accuracy with a massive dose of spin/propaganda put on top: "this is the truth, here's how, but this is also the truth, we're not going to present it objectively".

I've argued this shit with people on here countless times. I can give people experiments and math that are as simple as grabbing a friend, taking a short bike ride away, and both of you measuring shadows at the same time. Then you do math and find the earth is round based on how the shadows are cast. If you're really willing to try it, you can ask me for the details, but as it stands I've put an exuberant amount of time into this post already and it will likely go mostly ignored.

I can give people real world applications of round-earth physics that they can relatively easily go verify, such as the calculations for long-range artillery (or naval) gunnery, or aircraft navigational patterns and systems, or large bridge design, or weather pattern analysis, or mapping methodology and projections.

Almost every time, without fail, flat earthers plug their ears and pretend it doesn't exist, returning to argue for it again and again with illogical arguments that are readily debunked as disingenuous and fallacious. Yet so many are willing to accuse us of being NPC's.

Has Trump said the earth is flat? Q specifically said the earth is not flat. Why the fuck bring this nonsense here, when it is so absurdly counter to all of the people and principles and even context or relevance of the movement?

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pcme2 4 points ago +5 / -1

thank you my sides hurt from loling at this flat earth shite

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B1GdickBonanza 2 points ago +2 / -0

look into the hundreds of pilots that have come out snd said that the earth is flat

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B1GdickBonanza 1 point ago +1 / -0

ummm, long and lat work on a flat surface as well.

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B1GdickBonanza 1 point ago +1 / -0

if were on a giant ball whizzing through space at billions of miles an hour circling the sun (according to nasa), then why does the north star stay stationary and the stars ALWAYS go clockwise? the clock was built on this concept.

why when looking at clouds in front of the sun do sun rays go 80 degrees out? when the sun is bagillions of miles away? thats not possible. it would have to be directly behind the clouds. thats just basic phyics.

im not a flat earther per say, but there are some interesting unanswerable questions that flat earthers have. just saying.

also, all the stuff youve been saying can be done on a flat earth as well. also, just saying.

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B1GdickBonanza 1 point ago +1 / -0

ok bud, 👍

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B1GdickBonanza 1 point ago +1 / -0

meh, we'll find out the truth in the next few years either way

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B1GdickBonanza 1 point ago +1 / -0

blocked?! oh no whatever will i do?! lol jackass

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bidiadicc123 12 points ago +14 / -2

Lol to say everything can be described thru our senses is fucking retarded

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realeagle 0 points ago +1 / -1

How did the ancients who 'discovered' that the earth was a globe do it?

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Boonhause 3 points ago +4 / -1

They sailed. On calm seas you can see ships and landmass disappear over the horizon, and they began to wonder why. Soon, using some of the same basic calculations we use today to navigate they were even able to get a rough estimate of the size of the earth by measuring the distance it takes for something to disappear

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B1GdickBonanza 1 point ago +1 / -0

thats not true, why do you think telescopes were invented? because they could see further when the ships "went over the horizon" in reality they used them to see ships that the naked eye could not. there are tons of videos proving this, just have to look.

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Boonhause 0 points ago +1 / -1

To be able to zoom on on distant objects. Why do ships have masts for a the spotter to sit on if theres no curvature and elevation is irrelevant? How come with a powerful enough telescope i cant see austin from the oklahoma devon tower? And iv yet to see someone zoom in on the horizon only for a ship to magically appear from nowhere, only bring into focus whats already there. Its pretty easy to test this at any sufficiently large body of water

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B1GdickBonanza 1 point ago +1 / -0

well because obv the higher you are the further you can see and there are plenty of vids of people not being able to see a ship with naked eye but can with a camera zoom or telescope. what your seeing with your eyes is a limited amount. think pixels on a tv, for example a tv that is 1080p compared to one that is 4k is a huge difference, its the same with our eyes, after a certain distance we cant see because of that, fog, waves etc etc but with a telescope that is enhanced and zoomable.

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rilyn 4 points ago +4 / -0

Apparently this is what they say...

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ThebigLMAOski17 18 points ago +22 / -4

It's called well poisoning.

It's done intentionally to create the narrative that anyone who questions the official narrative must also subscribe to the insane ridiculous dogshit that they spam the forums with.

Anywhere you go that questions official narratives gets flooded with "flat earth" dogshit and other similar blatantly stupid theories... all so these assholes trying to fuck the world can convince people to distrust information you see on sites that question them.

Don't fall for it, keep focused on real shit.

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Lupinate 13 points ago +14 / -1

^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^

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UnidentifiedWhiteMan 5 points ago +5 / -0

EXACTLY

The mods here and the users both seem to have a pretty good handle on it though,

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ThebigLMAOski17 6 points ago +7 / -1

lol

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AReckoningIsComing -1 points ago +3 / -4

Thats what you could have said about Q too

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ThebigLMAOski17 11 points ago +11 / -0

Q has a ton of proof... so no it can't be said about Q

The reason FE'ers are here, the reason there are so many paytriots making up all their own theories and trying to control the narrative here... is because Q is real.

Every single time mockingbird media comes here to slander the Q movement... they only ever talk about the FE, the crazy theories people made up about Q (nothing Q ever said), and the anti-jew or violence.

Look at the people making those kinds of posts... almost always handshakes.

It's being done on purpose.

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AReckoningIsComing 1 point ago +1 / -0

well the reason i got into Q is because things weren't adding up and everyone was telling me not to go near it.

Same is happening with Flat Earth theory, so I am keeping an open mind on it.

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ThebigLMAOski17 1 point ago +1 / -0

there's a huge difference...

flat earth, hollow earth, geo centric solar systems, etc...

these are all things we thought were true before we figured out the reality of the situation.

once we figured out how to do real world tests and proofs and invented ways to measure the world around us... only then did we figure out that the earth was indeed ball shaped and then everything started to make sense.

all the puzzle pieces fit once you develop an understanding of gravity and planetary mechanics.

this FE shit is backwards as fuck, it's like if doctors suddenly started setting up bleeding chairs again to relieve the body of "humors"

we figured this shit out thousands of years ago, now we're going back because a bunch of savages in the rap community who think "dey wuz kangz" think the earth is flat?

thats 24andme level retarded.

there's nothing about the current understanding of the globe or gravity that "doesn't add up".

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Boonhause 0 points ago +1 / -1

What doesnt add up with a curved earth? Its all pretty basic shit

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AReckoningIsComing 1 point ago +1 / -0

Planetary allignments over thousands of years primarily, but also some stuff with the moon etc. I'm keeping an open mind.

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Donny_Fiasco 16 points ago +18 / -2

I kind of disagree and here's why

Flat earth is fringe.

Ball earth is msm.

Do I believe in flat earth? Not necessarily.

Do I believe in ball earth? Not necessarily.

Do either of these things get in the way of my ultimate goals?

No.

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Suzeq2018 8 points ago +9 / -1

exactly^ at this point, I'm going to keep an open mind on everything I've ever been taught.

and I have a feeling we're in for a much bigger shock than BE or FE, so need to focus on what matters.

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AReckoningIsComing 4 points ago +6 / -2

MSM tells me the election was perfect, the vax's are harmless, QAnon is white supremacist terrorism and flat earth is nonsense.

Which is the ONLY reason I keep an open mind about FE.

It seems crazy to me, but so does a cabal of satanic psycho pedos controlling the world but that is now becoming quite clear, so keeping FE in the same vein as QAnon makes me high suspicious and interested in the topic.

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17SecretSquirrel17 2 points ago +7 / -5

Take an hour and watch this, it's very intriguing. https://rumble.com/vi4xo3-level-2021-flat-earth-documentary-hd.html

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Judicator 2 points ago +3 / -1

Are we really so easy to manipulate that the MSM can tell the truth to get us to believe lies?

Be wary about how much you derive truth from the MSM, be it by believing their narrative blindly or by following it blindly.

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carwash10 6 points ago +11 / -5

Well said, at the very least it makes humanity question "Is there a God" and they might come to the realization that we are not just some ameba, but are made by a Higher power

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carwash10 3 points ago +5 / -2

Nope but i did do shrooms once

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carwash10 1 point ago +3 / -2

Sorry obviously i dont comment much, ill try to do better

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catsfive 2 points ago +4 / -2

I also consider it a "go play elsewhere" gauge.

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Megadeth 12 points ago +23 / -11

Quit posting this ridiculous bullshit here.

I've flown around the world. It's a globe.

You are a weapons grade dunce to believe otherwise, or you're a shill to make people on this site look like idiots.

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Phishhed44 12 points ago +19 / -7

Career in Aerospace here...I’m always amazed at how effin STUPID FE’s are. I’ve not only flown around the world a few times, I sailed it once. I refuse to even sink to their idiotic levels.

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redtoe-skipper 7 points ago +7 / -0

The heading for Buenaventura from Auckland still is different on a globe to that on a flat earth. Fortunately, for hundreds of years already, we know how to do that.

The FE still have to learn navigation.

So, please, forgive their level of literacy.

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Phishhed44 7 points ago +7 / -0

I used to teach Navigation to AWACS aircraft student Navigators. Doing it for myself on a small yacht surrounded by endless ocean would shake-up Chuck Norris.

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redtoe-skipper 4 points ago +4 / -0

Man, to a degree I envy you! It is still on my bucket list. ... though a sailing vessel I have, a sturdy one built for that.

Laura Dekker is one of my heros!

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Phishhed44 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yeah...an amazing person f’real. I don’t know if I’d try it these days with all the political turmoil. Also I’m a lot weaker post-cancer. I still have that adventurous spirit tho...I’d maybe go with a small crew if I did it again.

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Phishhed44 4 points ago +4 / -0

What type/size vessel do you have?

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redtoe-skipper 4 points ago +4 / -0

A french design called Ecume de Mer. https://sailboat.guide/ecume-de-mer

Fell in love with it's lines. 45 years old, my own black pearl. ;-)

What do you sail?

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Phishhed44 2 points ago +2 / -0

I had an Endeavor37 Type-A but was 41’ at bowsprit. At 6’3” I could stand up in the cabin. Thick hull too. Had to sell her when I got cancer; absolutely broke my heart. I was just looking at Island Packets when this Thread popped-up...synchronicity. I like the lines of yours too but it takes more than guts with a 25’ to sail that far...just my thoughts?

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ThebigLMAOski17 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yeah fuck all kinds of that.

I'm down with the sailing around the world thing, thats a cool way to get out and explore... beats the hell out of watching youtube in your skivvies.

That said... fuck every part of being on a sailboat in the middle of the ocean in a huge storm and knowing if you flip... you're dead... they are never going to find you.

Hat tip to you there bud... no way i'd have the balls to put myself in that level of risk. i have a hard enough time finding shore on lake erie when we are walleye fishing.

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Phishhed44 5 points ago +5 / -0

Gotta rely on navigational training. I use a sextant as backup. Luckily I avoided any major storms but timing was key. One of the things I learned was NOAA reports are half-assed at best. It was exhausting but saw parts of the world I never thought I would, ever. My faith was built strong on that adventure.

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ThebigLMAOski17 4 points ago +4 / -0

Right on man, like i said... jealous as hell you got to do that.

Did you ever venture into pirate waters? (ARRRRRRRRRRRRR)

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Phishhed44 3 points ago +3 / -0

Off the Coast of Nicaragua & Honduras it got spicey. That’s what flare guns are for 😎👍🏽 I avoided South China Sea...a wide berth from there.

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17SecretSquirrel17 4 points ago +10 / -6

So riddle me this Aerospace man...why does NASA rely on a flat not rotating earth when designing it's aircraft? Why do pilot courses teach you to assume a flat non rotating earth? Debunk these...I'd love to learn more of your beliefs. https://unshackledminds.com/nasa-documents-conclusively-prove-of-a-flat-nonrotating-earth/

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ultra_star 6 points ago +8 / -2

If fire is so HOT then why do people, when they handle a pan that's been in fire, cover their hands with an oven mitt like they do when it's COLD ?????

If the Pope farts, how come I HAVE NEVER HEARD HIM DO SO???

Did you know that bacteria, pathogens and viruses don't exist? You did? Well guess what else doesn't exist? SEEDS. Yep. Plants produce many berries, growths, pods, etc... but it is actually Remsfrats Dust from the body of the plant that grows another plant. Remsfrats Dust sometimes brushes onto a seed and grows through the seed so it looks like a seed is growing, but usually the plant just grows from the Dust particles (invisible) which fall to the ground.

Lots of food for thought today. No need to stop with a flat earth.

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ultra_star 3 points ago +4 / -1

I try to share other good sciences with flat earthers and they just get mad at me. They only like their own sciences.

shrug

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ultra_star 2 points ago +3 / -1

it's a wild wild world....a wild wild ROUND world.

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Judicator 2 points ago +3 / -1

The irony is that the article linked doesn't even dispute round earth, it's just calculations for a circumstance where round earth is not relevant, so inclusion of calculations OF round earth would be a retarded waste of time (damaged aircraft flight behavior, etc.).

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ultra_star 4 points ago +4 / -0

As usual, such conversations quickly devolve to a war between the vast majority of humans at GAW who feel that flat-earth anons are used to embarrass us in the popular imagination and the flat-earthers who derive tremendous self- satisfaction from the feeling that they make normies of the awakened by being more-awakened-than-thou in their (loudly) professed Know-Nothingism which denies the existence of relics of science and common sense such as pathogens, gravity and the globe.

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SmolPedeBestPede 2 points ago +2 / -0

Can you expand more on Remsfeats Dust? I couldn’t find anything on point online but I’m curious.

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ultra_star 3 points ago +4 / -1

I'm afraid that it's a private theory of mine based on several minutes of imaginary research in my own mind. I'm hoping it goes viral and, like flat-earth cosmology, gains enough adherents that I can make a living of it by charging a few gullible consumers for books and conferences.

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Phishhed44 4 points ago +5 / -1

“Beliefs”. First you insult me then you want to deride actual science. GFY. Really. 🖕🏼

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FullAmpleSally 1 point ago +3 / -2

Lol the anger toward flat earthers is the most absurd. It does no harm to anyone but your own ego. And I don’t even believe in FE! Y’all are ridiculous 😂😂😂😂

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Phishhed44 1 point ago +3 / -2

It’s personal for some of us. I spent a career based-on real science. They’re not part of The Awakening. They belong on Conspiracy’s dot win.

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Phishhed44 2 points ago +2 / -0

As it should be. The great motivator is morale. Communism and empty rhetoric spew zero morale. Humans are innately driven to create and succeed. Listening to dumb low-intellect marxist public school cretins gets me fired up. No apologies EVER.

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Ego man, just leave it at the door. None of benefit from it

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Megadeth 2 points ago +2 / -0

I should have replied to the dim bulb I was targeting with my comment :-). I think they're a liberal shill.

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Megadeth 2 points ago +2 / -0

It's fun, but I've seen more and more of these kinds of posts recently. If people are going to start coming here on the virge of being redpilled, I do not want them to be scared away from this site because a few liberals are playing pretend and acting like asswipes to make us look bad.

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JeanGrey 2 points ago +6 / -4

Thank you. Flat earthers never leave their basements.

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Boonhause 1 point ago +2 / -1

My brain is so melted after all this shit that i thought you were serious. Thats like an actual argument id expect out of a flat earther

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RagnarD 1 point ago +6 / -5

Just about anyone can do the experiments at home that disprove the FE theory. It's called science.

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Boonhause 2 points ago +3 / -1

They dont like science. I dont get how they get around the fact that proving the earth is flat would in fact be science if it was true, but whatever. Apparently having corrupt academic institutions = all logic bad only dumb shit good.

Id never considered it, but im starting to believe flat earth is some sort of psyop to distract people and make us look stupid. Psyop or not its embarrassing that this shit has spread so much given how many pilots and military we have in this community

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Lupinate 1 point ago +6 / -5

Ive debated fet people on the maths, none can make a coherent argument. They claim density differences are key without realising that only works with gravity in play. They are the epitome of a shill / delusional moron. Q answer this question with no ambiguity.

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Fatality 10 points ago +16 / -6

This is what you do: Ask yourself: "Have i seen the world from space with my own two eyes directly, and not eyes and not via any other means (video/pictures)?"

If your answer is "no" then you can say "I only know what i have been told about it, i have not seen it myself, so i can't really say for certian, but if i were to go by <flat earther> it would be flat, and if i go by <globe earther> it would be a globe. I will reserve my decision until i can see it for myself, but i know what both sides say"

If you answer "yes" then you know how it is, and if anyone gives you grief just throw your hands up and say "well, it looks like you'll have to just see it for yourself with your own two eyes then"

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BeerMan 17 points ago +23 / -6

There are a few things that you can observe that indicate a globe:

  • Time of the day is the same for everyone in your longitude
  • The peak angle of the sun is the same for everyone in your latitude
  • You can see all of the stars at night from the equator, but as you move toward the poles the amount of stars that you can see diminishes gradually to 50% visible at the poles.
  • When a ship departs the harbor, the lower section appears to drop beneath the horizon before the upper section
  • Solar eclipses are only visible in certain areas, but lunar eclipses are visible across the entire night side of the Earth
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GodAndGlory 6 points ago +9 / -3

I'm on the fence. But I'll bite since no one tried.

  1. Unsure. But a common flat earth model is built of a hyperboloid torus field that radiates following longitude
  2. Latitude is just the same distance from the center of the north pole. Like a circle drawn with a compass. It makes sense the sun would have the same peak angle?
  3. I'm not sure to be honest. But the equator is a location centered between north pole and south outskirts as stars rotate overhead. There's simply too much atmosphere for us to see across the plane (from the south to the north). Farthest things also disappear into the horizon
  4. "Ships disappear from the bottom". This is an element of perspective. All things disappear towards the horizon / vanishing point. We can see the top of a ship because of the angle. There are TONS of clips where a powerful telescope can bring that ship into view.
  5. Haven't looked into it sorry. My counter question would be A) How do Selenelion Eclipses work (just refraction?)? The sun and the moon can be seen in the sky, and there's some where the shadow emerges from the TOP of the moon (should be the bottom)? Also what about all the amateur astronomers who have reported seeing stars THROUGH the moon (plasma?)?

My questions for the globe model to explain.

  1. Where is the curvature of the earth, measured over water (land has varying elevations, water finds its level)?

We should have 8 inches of curvature over a mile squared. Yet we don't see that drop. Telescopes bring ships miles away back into view when they should be "over the horizon". Suez canal is 200 miles long and is built without accommodation of a curve

  1. The sun, why can we see divergent rays? Flat earthers argue this points to a local sun. Globe earth model is the sun is 93 million miles away, so we get parallel rays. Some would say "refraction" for the divergent rays, but then why don't we see crossing rays? Parallel rays should hit earth at every inch of earth

  2. How haven't the constellations changed in thousands of years? Pyramids of Giza are lined up with Orions belt. The Georgia Guidestones perfectly show the north star. Spinning earth, around sun, as solar system moves through milky way, as milky way moves through the universe, with stars of varying distances away. And why don't the stars move through the sky in a random, winding path?

  3. How do you have a vacuum next to atmosphere? Physics tells us pressure should equalize. If this "container" or van allen belt is that strong it can contain atmosphere, how did we pass through it?

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BeerMan 5 points ago +5 / -0

Longitude is just the same distance from the center of the north pole. Like a circle drawn with a compass

You've defined Latitude.

Longitude is your angular distance from an imaginary line that connects the North and South Poles through Greenwich, England.

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GodAndGlory 2 points ago +2 / -0

Thank you

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AReckoningIsComing 2 points ago +3 / -1

I'm on the fence too but number 3 makes me baffled as well

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BeerMan 3 points ago +3 / -0

Polaris happens to be located at a point that aligns with the North pole if the North pole were to be extended many light-years from the surface of the Earth.

There are stars in nearly all directions. Is it so hard to believe that one would align with the axis of the earth?

Btw, Sigma Octantis is the star aligned with the South pole.

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BeerMan 2 points ago +2 / -0

Polaris just happens to be the star in that spot now, and it's not exactly perfect, it does move a very slight amount. You're right that the Earth's axis wobbles. 5000 years ago Thuban was the North Star.

The wobble in the Earth's axis exists, but it is very slow.

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BeerMan 2 points ago +2 / -0

Ah, I had thought you were talking about the precession.

Yeah, the earth is tilted 23.5 degrees from the plane of its orbit around the sun. That's why summer in the Northern hemisphere is winter I'm the Southern hemisphere, and vice versa.

Regarding Polaris appearing in the same location, the average distance between the Earth and the Sun is 94 Million miles. So the diameter of the Earth's orbit is 2x that, so on average 188 Million miles. The distance to Polaris is 434 light-years, or 2.551x10^15 miles. So you create an isosceles triangle with the base being the diameter of the Earth's orbit and the height being the distance to Polaris and calculate the angles of the corners of the triangle. tan^-1 (2.551x10^15 miles / 94,000,000 miles) = 89.999997889 degrees.

You end up with a triangle that has 2 corners (at either side of Earth's orbit) that are 89.999997889 degrees and one corner (at Polaris) that's 0.000004223 degrees. Since the angles at each end of Earth's orbit are nearly 90 degrees, Polaris appears to not move in the sky, although it does a very small amount that's almost imperceptible.

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yoohoo 0 points ago +2 / -2

Perhaps Polaris moves in the same line with the Earth's tilt?

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yoohoo 2 points ago +2 / -0

Since Polaris is so very much farther away from Earth than the Sun, the angle Polaris makes with one end of Earth's orbital path to the opposite end of said path is nearly 0°, hence it doesn't appear to move. This is what I understand from Beerman's math.

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yoohoo 2 points ago +2 / -0

He couldn't break the math, probably said something really stupid and inflammatory, that was the straw that broke the mod's back, and he now has been banned. Thank you, mod! 👍

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Not true. Polaris is only one of a long line of pole stars

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catsfive -1 points ago +2 / -3

Dude, fucking learn about procession. We have Sumerian astronomical tablets that point to a different North star, for fuck sakes.

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17SecretSquirrel17 -1 points ago +5 / -6

Please spend one hour and watch this short documentary, then come back and debunk flat earth. Your arguments aren't very good arguments and I'd hate for you to look like a fool. If you really want to engage people it's very important to understand what they believe and why. It will be well worth your time and you might formulate some better arguments. https://rumble.com/vi4xo3-level-2021-flat-earth-documentary-hd.html

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BeerMan 1 point ago +5 / -4

No thanks.

I'm not going to spend an hour watching a video that you say will prove your point.

If you want to say I'm wrong, please explain how I'm wrong in the reply box.

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17SecretSquirrel17 1 point ago +4 / -3

I know the truth...you know what you have been taught to believe..if you don't care enough to formulate a decent argument, then that's on you my friend. I have no problem shaking the sand off my sandals and moving on. Have a wonderful day!

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BeerMan 2 points ago +4 / -2

My argument is right here: https://greatawakening.win/p/12jcvW6KXs/x/c/4JBwmjsuCbC

You replied to it with an hour long video link. That's not an argument. Tell us what arguments are in the video if you can't formulate your own.

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Boonhause 0 points ago +1 / -1

Says the guy who cant form a coherent argument himself as has to post a movie to prove his point. Alls it proves is that youre gullible

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SmolPedeBestPede -1 points ago +1 / -2

Time is a social construct. The reason it’s the same time of day for others at your longitude is because people took a flat map and drew some lines.

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BeerMan 3 points ago +3 / -0

That's true, but it's not relevant as to why time is the same for everyone at your longitude.

The sun rises in the East, peaks at approximately noon, and sets in the West. Every point directly North or South of you experiences the sun peaking at the same moment in time. This also means that everyone in longitudes further East or further West of you experiences it at a different time, and people halfway around the world from you experience it 12-hours offset from when you do.

This is easily explained with a globe. But not so with a flat Earth.

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420-Trump-2020 -12 points ago +8 / -20

Every one of these kindergarten level happenings have been proven to work only on a flat earth. But you retarded numpties will never put the research in to learn. Your indoctrination is compete. You are a tool.

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ThebigLMAOski17 7 points ago +8 / -1

so then refute each point without calling people "kindergarten retards"...

bet you can't...

we'll wait.

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DogeToTheMoon 5 points ago +5 / -0

I'm not advocating for one side or the other and as I've said before, I don't really care to have a rigid belief until I do more research (so I just lean towards globe for now). I just don't really know that belief for or against a particular model has any bearing on my life at this point.

In saying that, can't you appreciate that it doesn't help when you come right out with insults and ad-hominem? I just don't see the value in it and in fact there are some pretty obvious downsides to acting so hostile.

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17SecretSquirrel17 -2 points ago +1 / -3

Eh, don't give up that easily...they still have hope.

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UnidentifiedWhiteMan 6 points ago +6 / -0

This is what you do: Ask yourself: "Have i seen the world from space with my own two eyes directly, and not eyes and not via any other means (video/pictures)?"

My big problem with flat earth people is they all say ice wall this and Antarctica that..... but they haven't seen any of that either. It literally breaks their own logic that they preach so loudly about seeing stuff for yourself.

Frankly, I want to see some actual commercial space travel just to end this BS once and for all.

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UnidentifiedWhiteMan 3 points ago +4 / -1

I mean you are free to think that.

I just sincerely hope you focus more on other things especially when trying to wake up other people. Stuff like COVID and audits, current events, etc.

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carwash10 0 points ago +3 / -3

Of course i do why do u think i am here? been following Q since day 1

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Ang77 -1 points ago +2 / -3

I always start with Big Mike when trying to wake folks up

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Boonhause 0 points ago +1 / -1

Probably the worst thing you could use to be honest given its a fucking meme. Stick with things that are actually relevant to Q

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Fatality 7 points ago +7 / -0

Personally it doesn't matter to me. I've almost always been a fence rider on the weird things, saves you from committing until you have the full picture.

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ThebigLMAOski17 5 points ago +7 / -2

The big problem with flat earth is gravity.

in order for their retarded bullshit to be true the magical flying pizza would need constant 1G acceleration through space.

so just in your lifetime, even if it started accelerating when you were born, we'd be going millions of lightyears per second by now.

there's also that big problem of why doesn't the flight from south america to south africa take a week with multiple mid air refuelings.

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Megadeth 7 points ago +8 / -1

That's because fuel is a conspiracy theory. Anything with a fuel gauge is in on it. If it moves to empty, it shuts down the engines and you don't move until you pay for more fuel.

The planes that fly from south America to south Africa get an exemption from this, plus are allowed to fly faster to keep the illusion of a round planet going.

Does that seem like a good way to explain it, or do I need more training :-)?

(I don't believe a word I wrote of course ... Just to be clear)

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ThebigLMAOski17 2 points ago +2 / -0

Well in most threads i would say that your sarcasm was loud and clear but in this thread it was a tad more difficult.

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SmolPedeBestPede 0 points ago +3 / -3

Gravity has never been proven. There’s a reason they call it a theory—and flat earth theory is just as strong as gravity theory.

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ThebigLMAOski17 4 points ago +4 / -0

LOL

you people get so hung up on that. You should try harder to understand the english language and the scientific one.

Theory just means the working concept that is accepted by people who apply it to science. As soon as something comes along that contradicts that working theory, the theory changes. This means you can and often do have the 100% correct answer and still refer to it as a "theory" because science is about questioning everything and using accepted science to test other theories. when things don't work, you go back and figure out why.

what you call "the theory of gravity" is the only thing that explains gravity.

the only other possible explanation for your weak lame bullshit is if this magical flying pizza of yours was moving at a constant 1G acceleration...

to put that in perspective, in less than 1 year of constant 1G acceleration you'll have traveled half a light year. it's a pretty easy to figure out curve of speed over time.

Which means by now, just in your lifetime, this plate full of people you claim we all live on is traveling at millions of lightyears per second.

thats retarded.

fucking magnets, how do they work.

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Atlas117 6 points ago +8 / -2

I am no flat earther, but there sir you are 100% correct, It always bugged me that noone bothers to put a camera in space and take a literal photograph of the earth. Its always Composites for some reason..

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Megadeth 3 points ago +4 / -1

Do you realize how big the planet is with respect to any spacecraft up there and how far away you'd have to be to get a picture that wouldn't require stitching of multiple pictures together?

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Atlas117 1 point ago +2 / -1

yes, obviously.

You gonna pretend we have never sent satellites/probes to the outer solar system, or to mars, or to venus now?

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Megadeth 3 points ago +4 / -1

No, I know we have sent many cameras and satellites up into space and out of the solar system. It'd be a total waste of equipment to have a single camera present on that spacecraft to take a picture of earth from a distance or to perform any course corrections just to snap a pic that wouldnt require mosaicing.

There are a lot of photos of earth taken from the moon, but those are typically worthless to the braindead since they've convinced themselves that we haven't been there.

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17SecretSquirrel17 2 points ago +6 / -4

Wow..I see A LOT of downvotes..yet no rational arguments. How telling.

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Fatality 1 point ago +2 / -1

True, but there's a lot of reports of children being raped, and probably a good chance a doctor or peace officer can still take samples to prove it. As for people in space, it's a very very small # of people: ~500? of 7 billion.

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Fatality 0 points ago +1 / -1

no worries anon, i know what you're going through. I've been doing this for 30 years, and I'm right on the middle line with this issue and staying there until i can get past low earth orbit and see it for myself, or, until moon flights become a regular thing, and lots of people start going up there, taking pictures about 50-100km away to get a good single shot of it all. The problem now is that those 500 or so people aren't regulars.. and have an authority ruling over them, which is not much different from the people a few months ago saying "We have audited it and there was no fraud in the 2020 election".

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Taitersalad 7 points ago +10 / -3

Not a single argument debunking flat earth. I want them to convince me its a globe but no one ever tries, if the compass always points north, the center on a flat earth, a compass would still work the same on a flat earth

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bubble_bursts 7 points ago +7 / -0

Flat earth I think was specifically designed to hide a different conspiracy - I dont know what that is, but I just know its in Antarctica. The fact that no one is allowed go beyond the 70 degrees south is very telling. For those who ask why, just fill them up with flat earth nonsense and they will do the damage to themselves on their own.

This is very similar to the "There is no Covid" hoax.

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DrAgOnZPT 7 points ago +11 / -4

Well the ball whorshipp is full of flaws wich I have yet to find clear answers.

Let's dispose of Newton first and point out the obvious flaws in mass attracting mass causing random orbital acceleration.

  1. You see the problem right off the bat. This is a FIRST LAW OF THERMODYNAMICS VIOLATION and a violation of Newton's OWN first law of motion. Where did the initial energy come from to cause acceleration? If these objects are at rest, what caused them to move? There has to be something and it MUST be an OUTSIDE form of energy applied that was not innate to the objects.
  2. Newton's gravity is INSTANT. This means that it exceeds the speed of light. This would conflict with Einstein's General Relativity and Einstein's weak equivalence principle since Einstein claims nothing could travel in excess of the speed of light in a vacuum. One MUST be wrong or is it that they are BOTH wrong? Just a note. Einstein's weak equivalence principle claims everything is in free fall. How can things be falling freely and bending spacetime at the same time? Is "spacetime" also in freefall? The reason this is in conflict with Newton is that very assertion. If mass attracts mass, how can anything be falling freely and not following the trajectory of the mass and independent of them? Complete conflict in Newton's and Einstein's version of "gravity." Never mind that spacetime is a cartoon concept reified with mathematics.
  3. Newton's gravity does not comply nor is consistent with quantum mechanical laws. Quantum mechanical laws remain in compliance with ALL NATURAL LAW.
  4. Also proven incorrect with the double slit experiment showing superposition of states. Is light a particle? A wave? How would gravity act on this is it has no mass?

Einstein's general relativity theory was never validated. It superseded Newtonian gravity although Newtonian gravity is still used by academia as a conjured and pretend "proof" of the cartoon ball earth. Einstein's mechanics for gravity assume the bending of two conceptual mediums causing the uneven distribution of mass the leads to the emergent force of "gravity." Conceptual mediums are not science. A 4D Riemannian Manifold is an idea and it does NOT reify some mythical force into reality through a colloquial theory that has not been validated by the scientific method. Einstein's GR and SR are an absolute mess of error and begging the question fallacies.

  1. Einstein was done with quantum entanglement. All 1875 instances of this "spooky action at a distance" blowing up his assertion that nothing can exceed the speed of light.
  2. Proven incorrect by the observations of Sagnac and his interferometer, Michelson and Airy's null. These observations also showed the earth to be motionless.
  3. The equations used to in relation to relativity (field equations and tensor calculus) require specific points in this "spacetime" or 4 dimensional Riemannian Manifold. This is a CONCEPT, not a naturally observed phenomenon as physics requires nor can be this conceptual medium be assumed or applied in the scientific method. Never mind the fact that these "field equations" can only be applied to one mass at a time AND these "specific points" cannot be obtained since there is no defined point of origin in their mythical "universe" (a clear violation of the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle) that they can not quantify and assumes this space to be ever expanding into ...space All of this from their presupposed "big bang" than can be debunked by simply applying the laws of the conservation of angular and linear momentum.

Just to start...

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Megadeth 5 points ago +5 / -0

Newton and Einstein had completely different explanations of gravity. Newton had believed that there was a fundamental cosmic attraction between masses. Einstein explained it via a warpage of spacetime caused by mass.

Neither of those men claimed they knew what gravity was exactly. They only offered an explanation as to how it works. Newton's explanations work great here on Earth. Einsteins work great on the universal scale.

I'm sure we are a long ways away from understanding what it is exactly too ... And any good scientist would tell you that.

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Megadeth 2 points ago +2 / -0

I know. I was just correcting the liberal :-)

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Megadeth 3 points ago +3 / -0

This is why I hate arguing on these threads :-) ... I seem to be a prick to everyone since my initial reaction is that everyone is against me. I'm the exact opposite in real life for some reason ... I usually sit and wait for all of the bullshit to be spewed and already know who agrees/disagrees. I have the toughest time doing the same on the internet. Strange.

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Boonhause 0 points ago +2 / -2

Spamming that shit everywhere rather than engaging in actual arguments just makes you look like a gullible fuck

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AReckoningIsComing 6 points ago +7 / -1

Man this topic really seems to trigger people lol. I thought a forum for discussing crazy "QAnon" conspiracy theories would be able to handle FE enquiries a lot more clmly...

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AReckoningIsComing 1 point ago +2 / -1

calmly*

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Lupinate 6 points ago +8 / -2

Q already answered on this conspiracy, and stated categorically it was false btw: https://qalerts.app/?n=2622

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SpaceManBob 4 points ago +4 / -0

Isnt the point of Q for us to do our own reserach and do things for ourselves thus not following the tune of various pied pipers. Q and trump included if u ask me.

Yes, that's what most everyone does. Q and Trump agreeing is just the cherry on top.

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RangerGently 6 points ago +8 / -2

I've often thought flat earth was to discredit the actually pretty likely theory of hollow earth

"What, hollow earth, what are you a flat earther"

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Donny_Fiasco 3 points ago +3 / -0

I love the hollow earth theory that actually all"planets" are flying bases

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BSscrappin76 6 points ago +10 / -4

The Globe Earth fad is a "conspiracy theory" designed to distract, divide and discredit those who understand modern society has been enslaved by the Judeo Masonic (Satanic) conspiracy. It creates cognitive dissonance, and make us question all our assumptions, especially those which are True. FTFY

If you spent any amount of time looking at the truth, Flat Earth is undeniable. This is old news folks!

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Boonhause 0 points ago +1 / -1

Can you articulate anything from the video or do you just believe whatever sounds nice without actually thinking about it?

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Ang77 6 points ago +13 / -7

We’re enslaved by a satanic cabal, that wants us to believe we’re on a spinning ball. Spinning at 66,600 ,miles an hour, on a 66.6 degree axis. You can believe your bible, or your science book...choice is yours. I won’t argue with anyone, great thing is we all have the freedom to believe what we want. ‘Merica🇺🇸

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Ang77 5 points ago +9 / -4

Btw, I prefer to be called a Firmament Earther

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17SecretSquirrel17 2 points ago +5 / -3

I see what you did there...kudos.

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SpaceManBob 2 points ago +2 / -0

Well, who would of thunk it? The flat earther simply made shit up to try and prove their point.

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Ang77 -1 points ago +1 / -2

http://the-stewardship.org/research/reference/latitude.htm (Read the 7th paragraph ) and I’m a firmament earther, once again

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Ang77 -1 points ago +1 / -2

What does Q say about coincidences?

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Ang77 1 point ago +1 / -0

No coincidences. Q

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Ang77 1 point ago +1 / -0

It sure enough says 66.6 tho, doesn’t it?

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Donny_Fiasco 5 points ago +7 / -2

Let's take a deep think on this. What's more likely? Round earth or flat earth? I hate to tell you this but the fact that we're purposely being led down both paths tells me it's the old play both sides deal coming down again.

It's much more likely that both ideologies are wrong which should scare the fuck out of everyone.

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FrogFog 4 points ago +4 / -0

Someone's thinking for themselves. It's a quantum universe. Shrodinger shaped i think.

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MotherfuckinMAGA 5 points ago +7 / -2

Yep.

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JackieDaytona74 5 points ago +5 / -0

Agreed. Have always thought that it was injected to discredit the entire esoteric research community.

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Shazxofshadilay 0 points ago +3 / -3

Esoteric New Age is Globohomo. Private spirituality is based. Sorry mango.

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SuckaFree 5 points ago +11 / -6

Most everyone except the Flat Earthers know this to be true.

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Batoutofhellsing 5 points ago +6 / -1

Thank you, I've been saying that myself. Not believing in the moon landing is one thing but going overboard with space is fake and earth is flat is what they want us to say like lizard man politicians and drinking children's blood. Often times those are gaslighting. They don't drink their blood they inject it with a drug cocktail that includes adrenaline and performance enhancers.

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SpaceManBob 2 points ago +2 / -0

Stickying the thread is shutting down discussion?

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SpaceManBob 2 points ago +3 / -1

"Entertaining an idea" is not the same as coming to the conclusion you want them to. Most of the people who "guffaw without even researching the matter with any amount of effort or open mindedness" are the same people who entertained the idea, did their research, and came to the conclusion that the claim is fucking retarded.

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UnidentifiedWhiteMan 4 points ago +5 / -1

The most obvious evidence that it's a psyop is in the phrase itself.

It literally makes you sound like you just woke up from the year 1500.

Why attach to that phrase?

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Ameronaut 4 points ago +4 / -0

If you eat a bunch of dirt, you will discover that it tastes exactly like fried dough!!!!

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This guy is done tolerating complete retardation by supposedly awake morons. Fucking get a grip globetards while you still have the chance.

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17SecretSquirrel17 1 point ago +4 / -3

Hate to break it to you, but this is not the way. If you handle these folks like this how are you going to handle the NPC's that bought into the covid nonsense and all of the other deceptions? People are stupid, they might not realize it, but telling them they are stupid sure doesn't help the case. The ultimate goal is to get people to research on their own and come to the truth. We should all know by now that truth is never told and always learned.

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Phishhed44 9 points ago +9 / -0

You get disrespectful you get disrespected. And more.

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catsfive [M] 6 points ago +8 / -2

Considering it 😎

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Boonhause 1 point ago +1 / -0

Please do, we need to end this bullshit

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Analophigus 3 points ago +4 / -1

Ill throw $50 at the earth is flat 👍🏻 Who cares? We will know the truth soon.

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Analophigus 2 points ago +3 / -1

Hey when my toddler will let me watch it Ill check it out fren thanks!

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BigJilm01 3 points ago +6 / -3

Guys, the earth is not flat.

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notkizzalvin 3 points ago +3 / -0

It can be both and probably is, hear me out;

Google flat earth Google smooth earth google a thesaurus

What are flat and smooth?

Science is now suggesting that the Earth is in the middle of everything more than anything else is, thus making it the center or making it revolve closest to the center (i think they call it the galactic center).

If flat is smooth and smooth is flat all I want to know is HOW THE FUCK DID THEY?!

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Shazxofshadilay 3 points ago +6 / -3

"Everything they tell us is a lie…. except for the government scientists at NASA... because Satan's distracting you."

You, OP.

Search Hibbeler Productions.

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yoohoo 3 points ago +3 / -0

My current belief: The Earth is a point. The Earth is a line. The Earth is a circle ("flat"). The Earth is a spheroid ("round"). The Earth is a tessa-spheroid. The Earth is a penta-spheroid. The Earth is a hexa-spheroid. The Earth is a nth-spheroid. All of these are at the same time, true. It just a matter of perception and perspective.

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pause_when_agitated 3 points ago +5 / -2

I have zero respect for any flat earth philosophies. You have to be seriously daft to think the world is flat.

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Shazxofshadilay 3 points ago +8 / -5

And for all the free thinkers out there- Search Hibbeler Productions

The globalists are the satanists... It's not a distraction or psyop. It's part of the awakening.

Controlled opposition is everywhere.

They sound a lot like you OP.

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Trump_Is_Cyrus_777 3 points ago +4 / -1

To be fair, it might be the other way round. I'm a 'glober' lol, and I would be seriously seriously disappointed if there was no space, but I was forced to rethink things a few nights ago, when I watched this documentary - and I'm still struggling with it. The buildings were the most intriguing to me, but if as the narrator contends, there was a great reset around the 19th century and our whole history was rewritten, then the heliocentric model could very well be the fake.

There are too many anomalies in this arena. You probably don't have 5hrs to spare watching this, which is a shame, it's well worth watching for the hydro electrics powering whole countries. If he is right, there was previously a Great Reset and they are gearing up to do it again.

Then there is that weird clips of astronauts discussing new technologies which will eventually lead us to the moon, mars and other planets (the moon?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ul0e6lw130

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Sumsuch 3 points ago +3 / -0

I still remember how weird it was when both flat Earth and anti-vax became a hot topic online overnight, with no build up.

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FrogFog 3 points ago +3 / -0

It was the flat earth theory that landed us on celestial stage of Stanley Kubrick. Duh.

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Recyclops 2 points ago +4 / -2

Roundie Supremacy shall be overcome.

Flat Lives Matter! 😱

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UnidentifiedWhiteMan 6 points ago +6 / -0

We're talking about tits right?

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Recyclops 4 points ago +5 / -1

Always 🤗

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Boonhause 1 point ago +2 / -1

Based

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zanonks 2 points ago +3 / -1

Every lie will be revealed! Can't wait for that part :)

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Trump_Is_Cyrus_777 3 points ago +4 / -1

That's why I was excited about that documentary (he shouldn't have mentioned FE in my opinion as people who think it's retarded won't watch, which is unfortunate. The Earth is revealing secrets. Christchurch earthquake and soil liquifaction could be why there are grand elegant buildings and muddy uneven roads in the great cities at this time. Something happened around the early 1800's that appears to reset everything but it is starting to be revealed thanks to mudslides.

Half those great buildings were even greater, many are shown to be sunken in mud, which is why some have peculiar half windows that appear to be underground. They built on the new levels after the soil solidifed again and acted as if there was nothing unusual going on, but the mud is revealing what was there before.

Honestly watch it even if just the first few episodes and LOOK at the photos. Forget the FE stuff, focus on the other stuff. He may be wrong and he may be right but 'they' are definitely not being truthful about this. This lie alone is enormous.

If there were earthquakes that killed off the residents of these great cities it may be THEY set them off - we assume that they didn't have the technology, but if the timeline has been altered who the hell knows? But if it was natural earthquakes, then the Cabal sure has taken advantage to hide this info. The question then becomes WHY??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ul0e6lw130

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Suzeq2018 1 point ago +1 / -0

thanks for sharing this, I started watching it the other day, and then forgot where I found it. interesting video, and the pictures are really thought provoking. especially after seeing our modern box shaped buildings...

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bluewhiteandred 2 points ago +3 / -1

Instead of theorize, why not just point to alleged scientific proofs of the world being round?

Flat earthers were definitely (understandably) confused by admissions that we don't have pictures of the ball earth and things like that

I'm for keeping an open mind and open discussion on the topic, for asking questions - that should lead us closer to the direction of what's true

I mean, it's pretty awkward that people act like it's proven that the world is round and then get angry at people for believing it's flat - if it's so proven, just explain patiently how then - if you admit it's not proven, then why be angry at someone for what they believe in the face of uncertainty that gives room for disagreement in belief?

Also, how does it affect anyone if the world is flat or round? Not really going to change much about our day to day lives (I could see some arguments for how it might affect our lives, but also at other times I can see how it doesn't really change too much)

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575guy 2 points ago +2 / -0

Too many straw men in that article for me to believe

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pcme2 2 points ago +2 / -0

who is upvoting this tripe?

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DueProcessanon 2 points ago +3 / -1

I see from the comments that this subject has a lot of interest. My question is, how does FE relate to topics Q has raised or that are current? We are seeing the delta(BS) variant being used to manipulate people right now, all over the world. Here is an article that suggests the more that the cabal frantically tries to maintain control, the more they tip their hand and reveal their lies/evil. Here is an archived link > https://archive.is/CEGV6 Where we go one we go all!

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Megadeth 3 points ago +5 / -2

Flat earth is just like the delta variant. It's a total fabricated crock of shit used to give those that are small failures in the game of life something to cling to that makes them feel special. Instead of shoving masks and vaccines down our throat, they shove God down our throats.

I have absolutely no doubt that the more vociferous flat earth promoters like a few on this thread are here to make anyone aware of the deep state look crazy.

I do admit that I found the flat earth gag hilarious at first ... However, it's pretty clear to me that the people promoting it know exactly what they're doing.

For those that buy into flat earth just because it goes against the mainstream ... Not everything is a conspiracy.

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ThebigLMAOski17 2 points ago +2 / -0

How does FE relate to Q?

When Q talked about it... when Q said that it was complete bullshit.

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Trump_Is_Cyrus_777 2 points ago +3 / -1

Because it's the Cabal who have hidden it, and what lies in/beyond Antartica. They may have done a Great Reset previously, but they can't rewrite all history because anomalies still crop up for the curious.

Q isn't a God, he doesn't know everything. But he also said disinfo is necessary. I'm not a FE believer, but....I'm no longer as certain as I was after watching this the other day. Still struggling with what it may mean.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ul0e6lw130

We are dealing with Satanists/Luciferians/Baal worshippers here, and deceit is their business.

It is also interesting that YT put a discalimer against any FE stuff, but not for say Big Foot or Alien and UFO docs. Why would they care what nutty conspiracy theorists believe. Oh that's right they don't, just Q stuff, election stuff and apparently FE stuff.

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ThebigLMAOski17 4 points ago +5 / -1

FE got wrapped up int he "conspiracy channel roundup" because it was low hanging fruit... they took down all the FE stuff when they went after alex jones.

you can go to youtube right now and see tons of FE bullshit... they just slap a warning on it because if they did that for Q stuff and not FE stuff people would throw a fit.

don't you get whats going on yet?

they put out ridiculous bullshit theories like FE in order to compare them to things like Q because it's then easier to discredit Q by association.

Everyone knows FE is retarded, when they associate it with FE they are trying to convince people the two are equally ridiculous.

most of the people here spreading FE nonsense are handshakes... you think thats an accident?

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Trump_Is_Cyrus_777 0 points ago +2 / -2

I would have agreed with you at one point, I'm well aware of "poisoning the well", however I think more people are coming across certain FE stuff that is answering certain questions they may have had and they are no longer certain of the globe. YouTube and co should slap a disclaimer on ALL conspiracy stuff imo not just FE and Q stuff if they want to pretend to be even handed. Besides it's in their interest to let these stay around rather than try to deplatform them. The more you censor, the more people want to know what they are hiding, so this might backfire.

As I said, after watching a series by guy called EwarAnon I'm now coming to terms that something very big may have been hidden from us, and a Great Reset may already have occurred with the corresponding rewriting of history and 'science'. It's the buildings for me, and the possible use for generating hydro electrics that hooked me, but I'll no longer be ignoring the FE aspect (flat plane under a dome firmament) even if I don't yet accept it. Mainly because I'm a scifi nerd so I'd mourn if there was no space. :)

But damn, cathedrals and castles true purposes in the 'old world' as power generators of hydro electrics, prior to a possible reset has me hooked into that for the moment. If they can lie about THAT they can lie about ANYTHING.

Which would suck, but whatever the Truth may be I want to know even if I don't like it.

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ThebigLMAOski17 3 points ago +5 / -2

i've been high up enough to see curvature, i don't care what youtube or rappers or anyone says about FE i personally know it's fucking retarded.

as to this theory about old buildings being used for hydro-electric just please understand that the farther back into history you go the closer mankind lived to it's sources of water. all old civilizations, with very rare exceptions, all lived within a few miles of running water. old cities were built on the shores and the banks of water not to produce electricity... but because thats where all the people were.

they also used hydro power for mills to crush grain to make food, so perhaps your source needs to go visit a few working water mills so he can understand simple things like processing grain.

are there things about the past that we still don't fully understand, sure...

but anyone telling you the earth is flat is either mentally challenged or is doing it on purpose to make you appear so.

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Trump_Is_Cyrus_777 -1 points ago +3 / -4

"i've been high up enough to see curvature, i don't care what youtube or rappers or anyone says about FE i personally know it's fucking retarded."

What in a plane? Who hasn't! Plane windows are convex though aren't they? It may very well be retarded (and I would have once dismissed it as such) but I'm not making the point others are and they make some good points. Is it true for instance that pilots do not account for the curvature of the earth in flight training?

Or engineers when they do their calculations do not include it? I'm curious why would that be? I'm also curious why NASA would have declassified docs that showed they were designing planes for a flat plane. Why would they waste money on such a foolish thing?

"as to this theory about old buildings being used for hydro-electric just please understand that the farther back into history you go the closer mankind lived to it's sources of water. all old civilizations, with very rare exceptions, all lived within a few miles of running water. old cities were built on the shores and the banks of water not to produce electricity... but because thats where all the people were."

We aren't talking that far back in history we are talking a few centuries ago and major highly populated cities even in countries that can barely manage electricity today. I'm well aware of water mills, I'm talking about stately homes and churches and castles especially in Europe that may have been electro-magnetic power generators.

Perhaps watch the video and then comment on the points he made? But I suspect you won't because you already know 'it's fucking retarded'.

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Late2theparty 2 points ago +3 / -1

Personally, I have to use calculations for spatial navigation that use a sphere as a constant. I have been up to 55k feet and have seen the curve of the earth. I can look across a vast ocean and find the horizon when deep sea fishing. I reject the flat earth theory based on sound mathematics and personal observation.

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Agent777 2 points ago +5 / -3

Alot of people say the same thing about Q being a psyOP to discredit, and divide the redpilled community