Sister: Several young people we know including one of Terry's roommates in New York City right now just tested positive for Covid. There was a small outdoor wedding on Long Island and 45 people tested positive. Outdoors! The Delta variant is very contagious. You are not vaccinated and even if you got vaccinated now you would not have good immunity buildup until weeks after your second shot. Terry's roommate who is a young 21-year-old guy in good health had such a bad headache that they had to go to the emergency room last night. This is no joke.
Me: (showed pic from cdc site showing vexed people are more likely to get delta) I love you for being worried for my safety but in truth I am more worried about you I just haven’t said anything because it’s too late, according to this cdc data I’m less likely to get infected than I would be if I got the vax. I’ve said again and again it’s a brand new experimental therapy of which you are a human trial participant and I just want to wait for more to be known about not just the effects, of which I could send you countless pictures and obituaries of people who have died or have crippling side effects, but the efficacy, and as more time goes by the results are showing that the vaccinated people are more at risk. Based on the July data it’s plain to see that if I were vaxxed I would be more likely to get Covid. The plain truth is that we both believe with every fiber of our being that we are right and are not likely to change our minds. For my age and level of health I have a 99.97% chance of having nothing more than flu like symptoms after which I will have full immunity. I’m not going to take a gene therapy, every fiber of my being is telling me not to. At this time I do not want to betray my instincts. If I change my mind it won’t be because of people dying of Covid but it will be because enough data on the long term effects of this new technology drug is known. As scared as you are for me, I am so scared for you. I don’t want to lose you to blood clots or heart or brain swelling or anything else because I love you.
Sister: I understand your worry and i see the data that you are showing me. This is another way to look at the same data. (send me this link) https://youcanknowthings.com/2021/07/21/some-vaccinated-people-are-getting-covid-what-does-this-mean/?fbclid=IwAR2ukQIHVHUGa3he9BAcpY1duWLeJ8QT_nqwbHz4RCQHHXfR0gCeCE1Aos8
Me: I regularly hold back from sending you info I find because I won’t send you anything from a source that I can’t verify first. I assume that most sources like factcheck.org who does all of facebooks covid related fact checking could have secret conflicts of interest. It was recently discovered that factcheck.org is owned by a company with billions invested in pharmaceutical companies. Like when Monsanto shows a report that roundup is safe enough to drink but the report was made by a company owned by Monsanto. I’ve never heard of Kristen Panthagani but later tonight I will try to learn more about her.
Sister: Right but did you understand the math? The vaccine doesn’t prevent you from getting the virus. It just helps you get less sick. As an increased percent of the population gets vaxed, there will be an increase in vaccinated people getting Covid and statistically some will end up in the hospital. The more people are vaxed, the more those numbers go up. But statistically, the ones who are in the ICU and dying, are unvaxed. Ask any doctor who is dealing with it on the front lines. Forget about the source of the article. It’s just explaining the math.
Me: I can’t meaningfully read it right now but I will tonight. I will mention that I am open to seeing accurate data regardless of the source as it’s the data that’s important, when I mentioned to mom that Rand Paul has info suggesting Fauci funded gain of function research in wuhan and elsewhere, the info was not regarded as genuine because of the source. I can’t share anything with her if it doesn’t come from a leftwing source. Are you open to seeing things I find, even if they come from “right wing” sources?
Me: This is not data. It’s explaining the math behind the data you are seeing.
In the example you sent above, Mass is a highly vaccinated state. I’m giving you an exaggerated example but if you had an area where 99% of the population got vaccinated and there was an outbreak, the vast majority of infected people would be people who were vaccinated because the vaccine doesn’t stop the virus from entering your body. So if you tested everyone for Covid, it would look like vaccinated people were more likely to get Covid off the majority of people are vaxed. That’s what the article is trying to explain.
I do hope you read it and I hope you find info that makes you more comfortable or that the FDA gives full approval soon if that would help.
As an increased percent of the population gets vaxed, there will be an increase in vaccinated people getting Covid and statistically some will end up in the hospital. The more people are vaxed, the more those numbers go up.
That's her argument for trying to get you to get the vax? You can't help her. You can't.
When youvfind that redpill, let me know. I have a brother who needs a prescription. He won't listen to me or our other two brothers. I had the CCP flu. Ivermectin cured it. Now on HCQ to not get it again. Just in case!
Did you get tested - or you THOUGHT you had the wu-flu?
Having the symptoms - fever, myalgia, cough, loss of taste - provides a far more accurate diagnosis of a coronavirus than the PCR s-called "test".
AMEN!!! That's my thought as well!!! I'm NEVER having that thing jabbed up my nose - E V E R!! God Bless!!
AFLD's said that it was C19. But no, I did not get the stick up the nose or the other test orifices. Lol!
At some point we have to start thinking about Matthew 7:6. We live in a time when any information one could dream of is out there. I am always willing to share what I know, but family or not, I will no longer waste my time and effort on people who disregard what I say because I didn't go to medical school.
UK results show, although 80% of the infected are unvaccinated, the 20% that are vaccinated up over 60% of the deaths. Explain that one.
So if you have typically 99.97% recovery rate, and the "vaccine" (definition of vaccine could be a good angle to take) has a 95% (in theory, in practice ~60%, check Israel) efficacy, then after needle you would have a 99.9985% ((1-.9997)*(1-0.95)=0.000015, 1-0.000015=0.999985) recovery rate. So we're talking about a <0.03% difference. Why would anybody do anything remotely controversial for a 0.03% benefit? Why would anybody expect to see differences in the population from a 0.03% benefit? And that is just strictly talking about the benefits in regard to COVID without regard to any negative consequences.
Math is fun!
Listen, you can't redpill people who don't want to wake up. Plain and simple. Pray to God and hope that your sister doesn't get sick, or worse. That's all you can do now. Give it to God. If He wants to call her, or anyone else Home, it's their time and there isn't anything any one of us can do about that.
Been there. Done that. Got the T shirt.
All you can do is tell her you don't trust her sources, but that you will continue to love her and hope that her decisions don't lead to harm. She will likely say the same about you. Then you change the subject to the weather and let fate take its course.
She has to be ready and willing to enter into a discussion of why you don't trust her sources. You can't force it on her. If she doesn't ask the question of why you don't trust her information, then she is not interested in hearing your opinion.
Admiring your patience. Have you also shared meta analysis of hundred plus peer-review studies conclude we now have therapeutic protocols from repurposed generics, and these are proving better at prophylactic protection than the vaccine?
vaccine manufacturers say vax won’t keep you from getting Covid; science proves Ivermectin will
Would she be open to watching the Ex VP of Pfizer has to say on the experimental medicine? Ok the source is from the right, ie the people who held the cameras but the guy Dr Mike Yeadon isn't right wing at all?
Here's a link if she will watch it: https://www.bitchute.com/video/dbNjNS3Lfcl0/
I'm sure this is not what the pharma companies state. I think they state that it might reduce the symptoms. The fact that some waxed people still end up in hospital suggests that it might not!