If Arizona decertifies, Biden is no longer the president of the UNITED States.
He becomes a walking constitutional crisis.
Decertification needs to happen as soon as possible.
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Need all 50 certified for a president. If 1 state does not claim Biden as president, then he doesnβt get any states. It could not and would not be considered The βUnitedβ States Of America because all 50 states wouldnβt be βUnitedβ
I believe this is what was stated yesterday. Xiden would still be President, but only of 49 states, no longer the United States. It would create a constitutional crisis. They went on to say that if GA and PA, or any other combo that would put total electoral votes below 270, occurred then Xiden would be out completely. Still a constitutional crisis, I am sure, as he was "certified" by congress. Having said that, they said there is ZERO case law for this occurring and no previous case to look to for legal guidance. This would be a first impression case (I think that was the term) and so they would need to look at Common Law cases for direction. If that is the path then they would review cases involving fraud. This would be considered executionable fraud, which is the worst kind of fraud. In this scenario, fraud visiates everything and everything that occurs due to the fraud and after the fraud is thrown out. My hope is this would include all laws and dictates that have occurred since 1-20-21.
Hmm since there is a case of fraud even in states that trump won. I think even red states should participate in decertification then.
Agreed. This is not about Trump at this point, and that needs to be understood by the public before the military steps in. Trump essentially used himself as bait.
I believe the whole point of these moves is not necessarily to prove that Trump won, but to prove that foreign interference corrupted the 2020 election to the point that none of the results can be trusted.
I wish I had the article at hand but I remember the dems being offended some red state(I Think Oklahoma) would consider a forensic audit. That says a lot. It comes off as please keep eyes on Arizona but please don't look under your own bed.
Yes we need Arizona but if you reveal the fraud in the Red states its easier to prove the fraud in other states.
Edit: Also who steps in when all the elected officials results are decertified? How does that work?
Absolutely.
I mean this fraud is definitely effecting down ballot issues too. I want trump in office but I would much rather know my vote is being counted no matter who is in office. So this absolutely a red state issue. Even if Oklahoma decertifies before Arizona it still at least starts the ball rolling.
Why haven't they then?
Well stated.
This is correct.
Great summary. Fraud in the execution is the specific legal term he used.
Fraudulent & knowingly. There is nothing that is a fraud that sustains any kind of certification.
Nonsense.
That would allow any state to refuse to certify, and suddenly no election can ever be completed.
No way.
ok, let's follow this theory through. Are you saying that in 2017 if New York, or Cali "decertified " their electors then Trump would no longer have been president (and Obama would be)? Is it that easy for one state to remove a president? Seems a bit illogical to me.