If Arizona decertifies, Biden is no longer the president of the UNITED States.
He becomes a walking constitutional crisis.
Decertification needs to happen as soon as possible.
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I believe there is language that indicates ALL states must certify their votes before a president can be declared the winner. Not totally sure that's true, but what I've read before.
This is correct. Congress cannot certify until all states have certified.
So, what happens when a state decertifies? We're gonna find out.
Devolution. The government is incapacitated, and the military must act.
Especially when foreign interference proven...Iβm totally on board the devolution train. Nothing else really makes sense at this point. Although I wonder if they are waiting for mass US protests like in Europe before the reveal. This is what concerns me...
"We're in territory we've never been in before"
There is a first time for everything. When a law has no precedent, it called a Case of First Impression.
To adopt the most persuasive rule of law, courts will look to various sources for guidance. These sources include:
It seems to me that because at least 15 other election have been thrown out due to election fraud, mainly absentee vote fraud, that the court could draw some conclusion under "the law in other jurisdictions"
Since it is our Custom that those who commit fraud, not benefit from their crime, that seems like it could give weight to overturning election too.
Lastly Legislative History and Intent would be applicable. It certainly was not the intent of law to allow for voting machine companies, in league with foreign countries to run algorithms to swap votes.
And there's going to be different opinions and interpretations from people on our side. I've already seen the arguing.
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Soon please!
Sooooo Were we go as one we must go all???πππππ
I, for one, great appreciated your comment
I recall digging into this in Jan... and if a state does not certify electors by Jan 6, they are excluded from the count. The total number of electors is reduced and the winner must still receive the majority of electors... so total electors would go down by 11 from 538 to 527 and the amount needed to win would be 264. So need to pull more than just Arizona's electors to 'decertify'. Then again, there is no real precedent for decertification so who knows what the heck will happen.
The election was fraudulent. It is proven and there is historical precedent on a resolution for a fraudulent election.
If this theory were correct, there could be a President that was only certified by one state.
AZ would decertify their votes for Biden because they discovered Trump won their state. Iβm assuming, they would then certify their votes for President Trump. So all states would be certified except for a small window during the procedure.
So you're saying that in 2017 if New York, or Cali "decertified " their electors then Trump would no longer have been president (and Obama would be)? Is it that easy for one state to remove a president? Seems a bit illogical to me.
Need all 50 certified for a president. If 1 state does not claim Biden as president, then he doesnβt get any states. It could not and would not be considered The βUnitedβ States Of America because all 50 states wouldnβt be βUnitedβ
I believe this is what was stated yesterday. Xiden would still be President, but only of 49 states, no longer the United States. It would create a constitutional crisis. They went on to say that if GA and PA, or any other combo that would put total electoral votes below 270, occurred then Xiden would be out completely. Still a constitutional crisis, I am sure, as he was "certified" by congress. Having said that, they said there is ZERO case law for this occurring and no previous case to look to for legal guidance. This would be a first impression case (I think that was the term) and so they would need to look at Common Law cases for direction. If that is the path then they would review cases involving fraud. This would be considered executionable fraud, which is the worst kind of fraud. In this scenario, fraud visiates everything and everything that occurs due to the fraud and after the fraud is thrown out. My hope is this would include all laws and dictates that have occurred since 1-20-21.
Hmm since there is a case of fraud even in states that trump won. I think even red states should participate in decertification then.
Agreed. This is not about Trump at this point, and that needs to be understood by the public before the military steps in. Trump essentially used himself as bait.
I believe the whole point of these moves is not necessarily to prove that Trump won, but to prove that foreign interference corrupted the 2020 election to the point that none of the results can be trusted.
Absolutely.
Why haven't they then?
Well stated.
This is correct.
Great summary. Fraud in the execution is the specific legal term he used.
Fraudulent & knowingly. There is nothing that is a fraud that sustains any kind of certification.
Nonsense.
That would allow any state to refuse to certify, and suddenly no election can ever be completed.
No way.
ok, let's follow this theory through. Are you saying that in 2017 if New York, or Cali "decertified " their electors then Trump would no longer have been president (and Obama would be)? Is it that easy for one state to remove a president? Seems a bit illogical to me.
Precedent law - Fraud vitiates ALL. So, if any fraud is proven.....
Proving fraud would indicate that he did not legally win. Just proving in one state would make his entire administration fraudulent.