Yes, every kind of dust can be explosive, even, although it doesn't seem there would be that much it might have contributed. How did the young men get "propane flash burns"? Not from Bic lighters.
If the building is built on a cement slab (most strip mall and factories are), then all electrical and gas must be ran above ground. If a machine or implement requires gas and it is located in the center of the building, then it will require a gas line to be ran overhead.
In my area we have natural gas, but rural areas around me have propane. Not sure what is the fuel of choice where this happened.
I previously worked in the propane industry doing safety inspections. I currently work in the manufacturing industry as a Environmental Health and Safety dude. Gas lines are not inspected as often as I think they should.
There is no way this printing company printed the ballots.
They could be partnered with a print and mail type printing company, but the printers I see are the ones you use to make posters and banners. I've seen a lot of printers.
High volume printers have bins and hoppers to handle volume. A continuous form printer's paper is about 4 feet tall. Kind of hard to miss, and you wouldn't want one rolling over you. I am not seeing any of that.
You need to run thousands of sheets, and get the best quality, you go with a print and mail company. This company prints posters.
It's definitely a distraction. Maybe a deliberate one?
They do think we are complete idiots? That's yet another error on their part.
Unless there really are the routers or print servers in the building. You wouldn't see that on the website photos though, but centralized resources would only happen if you were part of a larger printer group.
There are no routers or print servers connected in any way to voting! For heaven's sake, find out what routers and servers are and do. I have a router and a workstation capable of being a server on my desk and so does every computer wonk I know. Does it mean we are all connected to Maricopa County Elections office? It was an accident that almost killed 4 people and emptied out the rest of the mall where the print company was located. Who is supposed to be distracted? It's a blip on the news this morning. Eventually there will be a followup report which will be even less of a blip. Accidents happen in a city of 4 million all the time.
Where I work (in print and mail), none of the processing servers are held in house. I do have one on my desk, but that's a backup. ALL of our images are archived in some form on a couple of the servers we use. We also do bulk document hosting, so that stuff is all searchable on the servers that have an internet facing setup. I'm more of a programmer than network guy, so I know all the programs and content.
We used to have other companies hold the servers behind a vpn firewall in some server closet (small room with AC). That's what I am referring to.
That in mind, is it possible there was something there of note? Yes. Is it likely? Absolutely not. I am quite sure they didn't print ballots there. They don't have the resources on the floor for that kind of thing.
If the story is a distraction, it is because it literally is a nothing burger.
It was a small family shop. You can look at their site and see what they have and do. https://platinumprintingaz.com/about/ Don't see where they would need lots of outsourced servers. I feel very sad for them, now that work is all for nothing. 4 young men are in bad shape with burns.
I am not in disagreement here. I don't think the place had anything to do with the elections/ballots at all. There's absolutely no reason to house servers there to begin with. I was giving the only possible reason I could think of where it might have been related, but it's blatantly OBVIOUS that it's not.
So, I agree, it was just an accident. The newsworthiness of it is more due to location than anything. Nothing to see here related to Q.
Thanks OP, been looking for a notable aggregator since last one disappeared. Nice to be able to keep up on what happens on 8k without having to wade through the span and noise.
Andthe one in Rochester NY burned to the ground
They were printing on flash paper 🤣
Is it possible there was a propane powered forklift in the building?
If there was a forklift chances are 99.9% it was propane. And the owners probably had a rack of spare tanks.
Yes, every kind of dust can be explosive, even, although it doesn't seem there would be that much it might have contributed. How did the young men get "propane flash burns"? Not from Bic lighters.
If the building is built on a cement slab (most strip mall and factories are), then all electrical and gas must be ran above ground. If a machine or implement requires gas and it is located in the center of the building, then it will require a gas line to be ran overhead.
In my area we have natural gas, but rural areas around me have propane. Not sure what is the fuel of choice where this happened.
I previously worked in the propane industry doing safety inspections. I currently work in the manufacturing industry as a Environmental Health and Safety dude. Gas lines are not inspected as often as I think they should.
Thanks for the insight. 👍
There is no way this printing company printed the ballots.
They could be partnered with a print and mail type printing company, but the printers I see are the ones you use to make posters and banners. I've seen a lot of printers.
High volume printers have bins and hoppers to handle volume. A continuous form printer's paper is about 4 feet tall. Kind of hard to miss, and you wouldn't want one rolling over you. I am not seeing any of that.
You need to run thousands of sheets, and get the best quality, you go with a print and mail company. This company prints posters.
Yes. And even if it were Runbeck, the company that did print ballots, so what? The ballots in question are all locked up as evidence many miles away.
It's definitely a distraction. Maybe a deliberate one?
They do think we are complete idiots? That's yet another error on their part.
Unless there really are the routers or print servers in the building. You wouldn't see that on the website photos though, but centralized resources would only happen if you were part of a larger printer group.
There are no routers or print servers connected in any way to voting! For heaven's sake, find out what routers and servers are and do. I have a router and a workstation capable of being a server on my desk and so does every computer wonk I know. Does it mean we are all connected to Maricopa County Elections office? It was an accident that almost killed 4 people and emptied out the rest of the mall where the print company was located. Who is supposed to be distracted? It's a blip on the news this morning. Eventually there will be a followup report which will be even less of a blip. Accidents happen in a city of 4 million all the time.
Where I work (in print and mail), none of the processing servers are held in house. I do have one on my desk, but that's a backup. ALL of our images are archived in some form on a couple of the servers we use. We also do bulk document hosting, so that stuff is all searchable on the servers that have an internet facing setup. I'm more of a programmer than network guy, so I know all the programs and content.
We used to have other companies hold the servers behind a vpn firewall in some server closet (small room with AC). That's what I am referring to.
That in mind, is it possible there was something there of note? Yes. Is it likely? Absolutely not. I am quite sure they didn't print ballots there. They don't have the resources on the floor for that kind of thing.
If the story is a distraction, it is because it literally is a nothing burger.
It was a small family shop. You can look at their site and see what they have and do. https://platinumprintingaz.com/about/ Don't see where they would need lots of outsourced servers. I feel very sad for them, now that work is all for nothing. 4 young men are in bad shape with burns.
I am not in disagreement here. I don't think the place had anything to do with the elections/ballots at all. There's absolutely no reason to house servers there to begin with. I was giving the only possible reason I could think of where it might have been related, but it's blatantly OBVIOUS that it's not.
So, I agree, it was just an accident. The newsworthiness of it is more due to location than anything. Nothing to see here related to Q.
Not with those printers they aren't. It's overkill to use those and they are way too slow.
Maybe if they had copiers, but I didn't see those.
Now what a coincidence...eh?🐸
ahhh the place that printed the ballots lol
No they didn't.
Were the routers in there?
Routers are computer attached boxes. This had nothing to do with ballots or the election.
Thanks OP, been looking for a notable aggregator since last one disappeared. Nice to be able to keep up on what happens on 8k without having to wade through the span and noise.
Or Cohencidence