I'm 100% convinced he's the anti-Christ. I was raised Catholic and attended till about 5 years ago. No more. I'm still a believer, but not a Catholic parishoner any longer. I've seen too much. And this ass clown is out of control as Pope.
I was going to write the same thing. Pope Francis is the anti-Christ and a Satanic minion for the NWO and Globalists.
WE NEED POPE VIGANO!
That's funny, because I was raised as an atheist and became Catholic about 5 years ago after experiencing a life-changing event. When the Catholic Church lets me down, I think back to the ORIGINAL INTENT, that Jesus and his Apostles created in the beginning. Not all the corruption that has happened since.
I started with the Latin Mass. I've attended the Novus Ordo mass, but find it quite diluted. I went to a Novus Ordo mass and the priest talked about their last get together, showed slides of them eating lunch and getting certificates of attendance. The Latin Mass is very spiritual and should continue.
I think it's deeper than just the Pope. That's my issue with it all. Not at the local priest level, but at the top tiers of the Vatican and their minions, including Vatican bank.
You are absolutely right. The Church is political and was deliberately infiltrated by Communists trying to change it from within:
Former Communist Bella Dodd spoke on the Communist infiltration of the Catholic Church. Dodd, an important Communist party lawyer, teacher and activist, converted to Catholicism in April 1952 under the tutelage of Bishop Fulton J. Sheen. Stating that the Communist infiltration was so extensive that in the future “you will not recognize the Catholic Church,” Dodd testified before the U.S. House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC). She said, “In the 1930s, we put eleven hundred men into the priesthood in order to destroy the Church from within. The idea was for these men to be ordained, and then climb the ladder of influence and authority as Monsignors and Bishops.”
The facts on infiltration are not meant to deny that some bishops, some heads of religious orders and some priests have not fallen into the very grave sin of either closing their eyes to the horrible sins committed by people under their authority, but to make us aware of the fact that a key factor hardly ever mentioned, or mentioned at all, is that many of the worst culprits were not Catholic priests who had fallen prey to “unbridled lust” but infiltrators who had obtained false baptismal certificates and were plainly agents of Communism and demoralization. (…) I heard from Bella Dodd that these evil men had even infiltrated the Vatican – for the Catholic Church is the arch enemy of Communism: and they know it.
I'm very happy that you will experience a Latin mass. Not only is it very beautiful, but it is deep, spiritual and very solemn. Latin mass is the ORGINAL way to pray. Along the way, the church became infiltrated. Novus Ordo is really the mass very diluted. Pope Francis is trying to get rid of Latin mass, so you know it must be good. He's trying to make one global religion and has a dark character.
I don't understand the beautiful Latin that is expressed. My husband reads along with a book that has Latin on one side and English on the opposite. I just love the way it sounds and am starting to recognize Latin words.
I was raised an absolute atheist. My father would say there's no God, the Bible was written by man and priests are a bunch of parasites. I know what it feels like to live without faith. Whatever happens, just happens. There's no faith, no hope. It's tough. I always tried to make the right/moral choices. Then I had a life-changing experience and turned to God. My world is so much bigger now. I love having faith, hope and the teachings of the original Catholic faith. I can FEEL God in my life now.
Especially nowadays, when we are in the middle of WWIII. I pray the rosary and attend Latin mass. It keeps me centered and calm. Your picks for literature are great! I've heard the Father and my husband speak of them as being genuine.
I am catholic and I will not give up my faith. I do not think he is the antichrist but I do think he is the False Prophet. We all have to remember he is fallible when it comes to things outside of church doctrine, like comments on politics, environment, economy etc. There it is just a man's opinion and means nothing to me.
But when he denies or contradicts established church teachings that shows me he is truly not of our faith and thats why I think he is the False Prophet making the way for the AC.
But I wont let him stop me. And I wont make excuses for him. My church is traditional catholic and if that changes I will move to another traditional catholic church.
I am an Eastern Rite catholic of which Vatican 2 didnt affect. Our mass has not changed for centuries. I believe Novus Ordo is only Roman catholic. I do oftentimes go to RC church just because its closer but am appalled at the disrespect regularly occurring in the RC church.
I remember well in school Sister said she'd report to us the V2 changes because John 23 wants to modernize the church. Eventually she gave up and said all the changes made relate to the RC church and none of the changes apply to us.
Then too we have a Patriarch who stands WITH the Pope but rules have to pass through him to us.
Bergoglio put out a fatwa- er, Apostolic letter- last month, effectively banning the Tridentine Rite (Traditional Latin Mass) as well as the Vatican II Roman rite. Priests need to get permission from the Vatican to perform them.
Which also follows his reforms on Exorcisms... not even trained Exorcists are allowed to use the original rite, they are forced to use the "minor" form (I.e., instead of casting out unclean spirits, the priest prays for intercession from the saints and angels).
Not a coincidence, he drives the flock further from God every day.
Guess what fren? Attended a Latin Mass this morning, the first mass I have attended since 1996. Came back to find this thread to let you know, as it was a direct result of my talking with a friend about the topics that came up in this discussion last week.
It was beautiful. I wept for reasons I'm still trying to unpack. It was like a whole different religion than what I experienced 1983-1996 going with my folks. First time I've even gone to any church by my own free choice, not because someone guilted me into it.
Thank you for getting the conversation started. Next week I'm bringing the wife and kids. My buddy is helping me research what it will take to baptise the kids myself. You may well have saved four souls, thought you'd appreciate knowing that.
I still say fuck the pope.......apparently now its not an insurmountable deal breaker.
34 years since my last confession, it may take a bit to get back to grace, but every journey begins with the first step.
The RC churches in this diocese every year or so 'merge' parishes, in other words closes 4 and herds everyone into 1 but a lot of people cant go that extra distance so they go to another denomination. Then bishop cant understand why church attendance is down so he decides to tax every household $250/yr on top of the tithes.
The current antipope has me about this close to moving to the SSPX until the Deep Church gets sorted out. I just stumbled across Fr. Isaac Relyea the other day and I'm definitely gonna have to start listening to more of his stuff because he knows what's good.
Never had heard of them, just started a surface level dig.....they call them heretics and terrorists and jailed some leader for Holocaust denial.......so yeah, probably worth a deeper dive.
I'm not Catholic, but I've been following the popes over the years. There's one guy, I don't know his name or really anything about him, but he's always creeped me out. Here's a picture of him with Pope Francis:
Don't ask me why, but I've always gotten the impression that he's the one behind the scenes directing a lot of things, sort of like a shadow pope. He's never far from any pope and he stands there like he's a warning to the pope not to step out of line. I just can't shake this feeling. Does anyone have any insight on him?
No idea and don't see enough pics of the Popes to notice anything like this, but....I'm with you, never seen this dude before, but he gives me the heebie jeebies!
If there has EVER been an Anti-Pope its him. Mom gave up on Vatican II in the early 70's she died going to a Pius X parish with Latin mass etc... I wish I had just gone with her but I held out hope. Now we have 2 popes and Francis is a damn communist.
Just me and Mom. Dad was an unrepentant Huguenot. but Mom always prayed for him. He died 2 years after mom at the age 94. His current girl friend got him to be baptized at the end. Her name was Angelique. Unbelievable! there is hope for us all.
Latin mass has nothing to do with accepting the free gift of salvation so that doesn't bother me at all. Using preferred pronouns is a lie, and is not love but hate. Hate of the truth and the neighbor you use them on. The worst of these you've listed, however, is the viewing of the Law as mere "guidelines". This couldn't be more blasphemous, and more acidic to the faith of Catholics across the earth. The Law is not only CUT INTO STONE (the symbolism is oh so intentional on God's part) but it's also something we will never uphold on our own and that is VITAL for every Christian to understand. Because of this it serves more like a mirror for us, to see in sobriety our sinful nature. The pope wants Christians to stay asleep, content in their inability to adhere to some "guidelines"
Remember that no matter what storm passes over, we worship the Lord who commands storms with his voice, quelling them to an uplifting breeze. The Word, the Bible, is always there, no matter what blasphemy we hear from our church leaders. God bless
"He never explained how you can be duped by a frequency whose whole function is the revelation of truth but there ye go - you're supposed to suspend disbelief for this type of trash."
I don't know what was up with Johnheretohelp, but I do know this: A liar never sees the holes in his own story, and a true believer (any subject) can rationalize anything, no matter how ridiculous it is.
I'm 100% convinced he's the anti-Christ. I was raised Catholic and attended till about 5 years ago. No more. I'm still a believer, but not a Catholic parishoner any longer. I've seen too much. And this ass clown is out of control as Pope.
I was going to write the same thing. Pope Francis is the anti-Christ and a Satanic minion for the NWO and Globalists.
WE NEED POPE VIGANO!
That's funny, because I was raised as an atheist and became Catholic about 5 years ago after experiencing a life-changing event. When the Catholic Church lets me down, I think back to the ORIGINAL INTENT, that Jesus and his Apostles created in the beginning. Not all the corruption that has happened since.
I started with the Latin Mass. I've attended the Novus Ordo mass, but find it quite diluted. I went to a Novus Ordo mass and the priest talked about their last get together, showed slides of them eating lunch and getting certificates of attendance. The Latin Mass is very spiritual and should continue.
I think it's deeper than just the Pope. That's my issue with it all. Not at the local priest level, but at the top tiers of the Vatican and their minions, including Vatican bank.
You are absolutely right. The Church is political and was deliberately infiltrated by Communists trying to change it from within:
Former Communist Bella Dodd spoke on the Communist infiltration of the Catholic Church. Dodd, an important Communist party lawyer, teacher and activist, converted to Catholicism in April 1952 under the tutelage of Bishop Fulton J. Sheen. Stating that the Communist infiltration was so extensive that in the future “you will not recognize the Catholic Church,” Dodd testified before the U.S. House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC). She said, “In the 1930s, we put eleven hundred men into the priesthood in order to destroy the Church from within. The idea was for these men to be ordained, and then climb the ladder of influence and authority as Monsignors and Bishops.”
The facts on infiltration are not meant to deny that some bishops, some heads of religious orders and some priests have not fallen into the very grave sin of either closing their eyes to the horrible sins committed by people under their authority, but to make us aware of the fact that a key factor hardly ever mentioned, or mentioned at all, is that many of the worst culprits were not Catholic priests who had fallen prey to “unbridled lust” but infiltrators who had obtained false baptismal certificates and were plainly agents of Communism and demoralization. (…) I heard from Bella Dodd that these evil men had even infiltrated the Vatican – for the Catholic Church is the arch enemy of Communism: and they know it.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/catholic-abuse-crisis-is-likely-no-accident-but-a-strategy-to-destroy-churc/
I'm very happy that you will experience a Latin mass. Not only is it very beautiful, but it is deep, spiritual and very solemn. Latin mass is the ORGINAL way to pray. Along the way, the church became infiltrated. Novus Ordo is really the mass very diluted. Pope Francis is trying to get rid of Latin mass, so you know it must be good. He's trying to make one global religion and has a dark character.
I don't understand the beautiful Latin that is expressed. My husband reads along with a book that has Latin on one side and English on the opposite. I just love the way it sounds and am starting to recognize Latin words.
I was raised an absolute atheist. My father would say there's no God, the Bible was written by man and priests are a bunch of parasites. I know what it feels like to live without faith. Whatever happens, just happens. There's no faith, no hope. It's tough. I always tried to make the right/moral choices. Then I had a life-changing experience and turned to God. My world is so much bigger now. I love having faith, hope and the teachings of the original Catholic faith. I can FEEL God in my life now.
Especially nowadays, when we are in the middle of WWIII. I pray the rosary and attend Latin mass. It keeps me centered and calm. Your picks for literature are great! I've heard the Father and my husband speak of them as being genuine.
God Bless You Fren.
I am catholic and I will not give up my faith. I do not think he is the antichrist but I do think he is the False Prophet. We all have to remember he is fallible when it comes to things outside of church doctrine, like comments on politics, environment, economy etc. There it is just a man's opinion and means nothing to me.
But when he denies or contradicts established church teachings that shows me he is truly not of our faith and thats why I think he is the False Prophet making the way for the AC.
But I wont let him stop me. And I wont make excuses for him. My church is traditional catholic and if that changes I will move to another traditional catholic church.
I am an Eastern Rite catholic of which Vatican 2 didnt affect. Our mass has not changed for centuries. I believe Novus Ordo is only Roman catholic. I do oftentimes go to RC church just because its closer but am appalled at the disrespect regularly occurring in the RC church.
I remember well in school Sister said she'd report to us the V2 changes because John 23 wants to modernize the church. Eventually she gave up and said all the changes made relate to the RC church and none of the changes apply to us.
Then too we have a Patriarch who stands WITH the Pope but rules have to pass through him to us.
I'm hearing grumblings about banning Latin masses/closing monasteries from my Catholic friends.
Bergoglio put out a fatwa- er, Apostolic letter- last month, effectively banning the Tridentine Rite (Traditional Latin Mass) as well as the Vatican II Roman rite. Priests need to get permission from the Vatican to perform them.
Which also follows his reforms on Exorcisms... not even trained Exorcists are allowed to use the original rite, they are forced to use the "minor" form (I.e., instead of casting out unclean spirits, the priest prays for intercession from the saints and angels).
Not a coincidence, he drives the flock further from God every day.
https://www.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/motu_proprio/documents/20210716-motu-proprio-traditionis-custodes.html
Guess what fren? Attended a Latin Mass this morning, the first mass I have attended since 1996. Came back to find this thread to let you know, as it was a direct result of my talking with a friend about the topics that came up in this discussion last week.
It was beautiful. I wept for reasons I'm still trying to unpack. It was like a whole different religion than what I experienced 1983-1996 going with my folks. First time I've even gone to any church by my own free choice, not because someone guilted me into it.
Thank you for getting the conversation started. Next week I'm bringing the wife and kids. My buddy is helping me research what it will take to baptise the kids myself. You may well have saved four souls, thought you'd appreciate knowing that.
I still say fuck the pope.......apparently now its not an insurmountable deal breaker.
34 years since my last confession, it may take a bit to get back to grace, but every journey begins with the first step.
The RC churches in this diocese every year or so 'merge' parishes, in other words closes 4 and herds everyone into 1 but a lot of people cant go that extra distance so they go to another denomination. Then bishop cant understand why church attendance is down so he decides to tax every household $250/yr on top of the tithes.
The current antipope has me about this close to moving to the SSPX until the Deep Church gets sorted out. I just stumbled across Fr. Isaac Relyea the other day and I'm definitely gonna have to start listening to more of his stuff because he knows what's good.
Never had heard of them, just started a surface level dig.....they call them heretics and terrorists and jailed some leader for Holocaust denial.......so yeah, probably worth a deeper dive.
Demons hate Latin.
This guy's got the right idea
These days if you aint being labeled a fringe extremist you aint speaking the truth.
I'm not Catholic, but I've been following the popes over the years. There's one guy, I don't know his name or really anything about him, but he's always creeped me out. Here's a picture of him with Pope Francis:
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-rP5iW7COOyk/UUiI1c3U1_I/AAAAAAAAGPo/mlSNtdmXwCA/s1600/Inauguration+Mass+4.jpg
Don't ask me why, but I've always gotten the impression that he's the one behind the scenes directing a lot of things, sort of like a shadow pope. He's never far from any pope and he stands there like he's a warning to the pope not to step out of line. I just can't shake this feeling. Does anyone have any insight on him?
No idea and don't see enough pics of the Popes to notice anything like this, but....I'm with you, never seen this dude before, but he gives me the heebie jeebies!
I just found his name: Monsignor Guido Marini -- a good Mafia name, kek!
"His Predecessor was Archbishop Piero Marini. (no relationship.)"
Coincidence?
https://www.askacatholic.com/_WebPostings/Answers/2015_01JAN/2015JanWhoIsThePopesAssistant.cfm
Note, though, this was during Pope Benedict's reign. If I'm not mistaken, Benedict was more conservative.
Msgr Marini seems to be a reed that bends with the wind. I wouldn't be surprised to discover he was the one whispering in Benedict's ear to step down.
If there has EVER been an Anti-Pope its him. Mom gave up on Vatican II in the early 70's she died going to a Pius X parish with Latin mass etc... I wish I had just gone with her but I held out hope. Now we have 2 popes and Francis is a damn communist.
Just me and Mom. Dad was an unrepentant Huguenot. but Mom always prayed for him. He died 2 years after mom at the age 94. His current girl friend got him to be baptized at the end. Her name was Angelique. Unbelievable! there is hope for us all.
Latin mass has nothing to do with accepting the free gift of salvation so that doesn't bother me at all. Using preferred pronouns is a lie, and is not love but hate. Hate of the truth and the neighbor you use them on. The worst of these you've listed, however, is the viewing of the Law as mere "guidelines". This couldn't be more blasphemous, and more acidic to the faith of Catholics across the earth. The Law is not only CUT INTO STONE (the symbolism is oh so intentional on God's part) but it's also something we will never uphold on our own and that is VITAL for every Christian to understand. Because of this it serves more like a mirror for us, to see in sobriety our sinful nature. The pope wants Christians to stay asleep, content in their inability to adhere to some "guidelines"
Remember that no matter what storm passes over, we worship the Lord who commands storms with his voice, quelling them to an uplifting breeze. The Word, the Bible, is always there, no matter what blasphemy we hear from our church leaders. God bless
"He never explained how you can be duped by a frequency whose whole function is the revelation of truth but there ye go - you're supposed to suspend disbelief for this type of trash."
I don't know what was up with Johnheretohelp, but I do know this: A liar never sees the holes in his own story, and a true believer (any subject) can rationalize anything, no matter how ridiculous it is.