I take the set of vitamins we all talk about daily. I’m not a skinny guy but not a lardass either. My wife got Covid about 2 weeks ago. She had the usual classic symptoms… fever, slight chest burn, tired as fuck, heavy congestion, and no taste or smell. I’ve changed nothing in our daily lives/routine. We sleep in the same bed, hug, and snuggle up etc…. I’ve not gotten sick at all. No known previous infection. I thought this thing was so muuuh contagious. Anyone else experience this?
ivermectin helped my wife tremendously. We luckily have a pharmacy here that still fills it. It took 5 days to fully recover once she was on ivermectin.
Awesome to hear! Thanks for sharing and glad you both are good to go.
My daughter has it and very quickly both of my parents got it. I have been caring for all 3, daughter lives with me, parents don't. I'm cooking, cleaning, doling out meds, washing their dishes and using the same bathroom as they do.
I had mild symptoms that came and went in waves. I started ivermectin when my daughter did, prior to any symptoms. So the waves would come and I'd be totally fatigued, felt heavy headed, would actually sound congested and felt like I was in a dream. Very strange feelings and total exhaustion. Each time I would take a couple tylenol and an hour later it would pass and I'd be fine. My other daughter has not gotten it but she lives in her room only coming out for food sometimes. I don't know if the ivermectin held off the fever and other nasty symptoms or if it's because I smoke and nobody else does. It's interesting how this has played out in our family. None of us were taking vitamins until we got it and I started later than they did to conserve the supply. Because of how fast my parents got it, I would say it is very contagious, but knowing my other daughter and I didn't get hit hard when we all use the same toilet and kitchen, that doesn't seem likely. Also my daughters are identical twins so that makes me wonder why one got it and one didn't, at first I thought maybe something prevents some from getting it, something in their genetic makeup perhaps. This contradicts that theory but is only one small example obviously.
This is very interesting hearing about identical twins, and how one can have it and not the other.🤔
This is not the only "sickness" that has been in one and not the other since, get this...December 2019! Coof daughter got super sick with massively swollen tonsils, we spent 2 months going round and round with antibiotics but the swelling never went down much. She didn't test positive for strep or mono or anything, she was tested multiple times over 2 months. Eventually they removed her tonsils and she left the hospital 2 days after the first case was "discovered" in our state.
Other daughter never got it, and was definitely exposed over the 2-3 months we fought this. Fast forward to a month ago, that daughter suddenly had swollen tonsils and appeared to be the same as her sister. Her NP didn't test but treated for strep and she was allergic to the antibiotic. (She also had an allergic reaction to penicillin when she was younger, so now cannot take penicillin or macrolides). 2nd antibiotic killed off whatever was going on and she recovered. Covid twin picked up Covid a week after her sister recovered from the suspected strep. In trying to help the Covid twin recover, we decided to try the antibiotic that her sister had a reaction to. She took it for a couple days and had no allergic reaction. SO....how can any of this be in identical twins? When they were little, they shared everything from colds to strep. Once I pulled them from public school and we stopped getting the flu shot, we went 8 years with no sickness until December of 2019. Now we seem to be back on the neverending sickness cycle. Also, twin that has not gotten covid is NOT taking any vitamins or supplements to boost her immune system, yet she hasn't gotten it and we have gone 14 days of Covid twin having symptoms.
They have different blood types?
No, same blood type though I am not certain what type they have since it's been roughly 17.5 years since they were born. I'm trying to dig through their records to see what their type is, last time I remember seeing it was when they were born. Obviously I got extremely lazy about medical information & now I'm trying to make up for depending on the medical professionals to help when we get sick. I've been off the big pharma train for years & began to mistrust doctors when my girls were very young. I was still fecking lazy even though I knew better!
Check out the importance of fever and intermittent showers (I think that's what they are called) Alternating hot and cold. Resets your immune system.
So glad you mentioned this, I NOW remember hearing about this months ago, thank you, I'm going to dig!
Medcram.com Dr. Sheuhault has covered it. I wish that I could find the one interview where he lays out all of the therapeutics.
Headed there now, I'm learning SO much today, I love this thread and everyone pitching in with anything and everything they think may help. THIS is the spirit of America right here, I am actually tearing up at what we can do when we work together. Sorry to get sappy, been a long day of trying to be medically inclined and I have SO much information when this morning I was at the end of ideas. God bless you all who have chimed in, especially with the sauce and personal experiences!
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More important question - does your wife takes the same vitamins ?
And did you take Quercetin / HCQ or any othe substitute for ionophore along with the vitamins?
Is it possibly because you started cooking? okay okay, j/k
She does take the same vitamins but not as religiously as I do. She may skip a day here and there. She also got herself a bit run down as life was really busy a few weeks ago. Quercetin is apart of the regimen. I’m the better cook btw!
I guess taking them regularly is very important, that would be my take away with this small sample set observation!
Also some people are naturally very low on vitamin D3, and that makes a big difference - and needs supplemants over a period of time to build it back to correct levels.
I really appreciate you sharing this info, we live in an age where collecting anecdotal observations and building up our knowledge base is the only way to learn the truth. Like in the early days of Science.
Exactly! I love this community and our communication. Thanks for this.
Thank you. It’s definitely weird. I wonder if O-Neg has some protections
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Same thing here,husband had it but I didnt. My 3 year old had a runny nose. They got better after 5 days, bam done! Its a joke
Glad you all are good! Thanks for sharing.
Sane brotha!
I wish it had gone that way with my family! I've only had weird waves of symptoms but all others have been down for far more than a few days. It definitely affects everyone differently and some are not affected at all!
Im sorry to hear that, I hope they feel better!
So what I gather from all of these comments, is if you stay at home and treat yourself you will not die from Covid. It’s only people that are actually going to the hospital that Are dying from Covid. Suffice it to say, it’s a protocol at the hospitals that are killing people. It’s the actual hospitals that are killing people.
Early treatment is the main fuck up. People don’t do shit until it’s too late
Not in my world. My mom was 80, she got Covid, I flew to Austin to help take care of her because she was out of town.
Straight away we got ivermectin hydroxychloroquine and Quercetin, zinc, C, D, dexamethasone, anabiotic. My mom is well in 10 days. CT CAT scan shows zero damage to her lungs. She’s 81 now. She just joined the gym!
Funny thing the entire pandemic my brother and my liberal daughter which didn’t complain about wearing a mask and don’t kill grandma. But when she got back from Austin, nobody bothered to contact me to find out what really happened. They were both amazed and shocked that she even made it, and said she was ““ lucky”. To this day no one’s asked me how she really got well. But muh… don’t kill grandma!
Good on you to get her what she needed!
Wife got the Rona this week: Monday: oddly tired, slight chest pain Tuesday: painful deep breathing and moving Wednesday: Lost taste and smell. Bed bound, completely exhausted, lack of appetite, 99.5 temp. STARTED DR Zolencko (sp) PROTOCOL. Added to that a nebulized 12% MEDICAL GRADE hydrogen peroxide AND saline (1:12) mix - @ 7ml per treatment. Did that twice for 30 min each time. This quickly fixed the chest pains issue. This one shocked me how well it worked. Thursday: Taste and Smell still gone, still tired, getting a bit better. Still bed bound. Continued nebulizer treatments and protocols. Appetite back big time. Friday: pains gone. Fatigue gone. Decided to walk on treadmill for 30 min (she normally does 60min). Continued protocols and nebulizer treatments. Saturday morning: Woke up at 730, Forced herself on me (Now I need the breathing treatment). Got up, had coffee worked out for 60 minutes. Worked in garden for an hour. Id say she is recovered. Smell and Taste somewhat returned but off a bit. Continuing Protocols until Tuesday just to be safe. Not taking Ivermectin zelencko protocol for anyone with early Rona is fuking irresponsible and cruel. When I hear about people taking weeks to recover pisses me off. Completely unnecessary. We are late 40s (FYI).
I'm digging for more info on the hydrogen peroxide nebulizer treatment for my Mom. She's on day 8 of this and still running a fever. Taking all zelenko protocol vitamins, Quercetin, and ivermectin and she is not bouncing back at all. My next step is the nebulizer and also trying to research the iodine as well, she has thyroid issues so I'm a little worried about trying stuff willy nilly and making her suffer more. Happy to see some experience with peroxide so thankya!
U are welcome. That sux about ur mother. I am truly sorry to hear that. My neighbors mom was in the same boat as u and he went from 1000mg VitC once a day to 1000mg 3 times a day. It seemed to help. I have read some pretty amazing stuff about the h2O2 in the last week. Everyone needs to remember that everyone is different. I am a big dude. My wife could be a model. Our dosages are different.
Also EXTREMELY important. Caloric intake. Make ur loved ones eat. High as hell calorie food as alkaline as possible. High high high alkaline foods.
I'm not sure I follow your statement about "not taking ivermectin zelenko protocol" do you mind clarifying what you mean by that? Respectfully questioning because we have been following zelenko protocol from day 2 on and it's hanging on unfortunately.
I am of the opinion that if a medical professional type person, or anyone with half a brain, is aware of the protocol and not using it for folks that have early Rona, they are being irresponsible. Of course let me say I am not a doctor. This is just my opinion. Are you in day two? Not sure what you mean. My spouse did not start to spring back until day 3. One thing I always keep in mind is that almost ANY protocol is for a ‘normal’ size person. I am 6’2 270. I up my dosage on almost everything except the ivermectin. I especially went up on the vitamin C and D3. Gotta be smart about it. See a doctor if u are even the slightest bit unsure.
Thanks for the clarification! I meant that we started the Zelenko protocol on day 2 of symptoms/fever (my Mom and daughter) including ivermectin. Mom is now on day 8 with no relief from the fever yet. She is allergic to a lot of stuff, her immune system is absolute shit and to boot, she takes narcotic pain meds (which have tylenol in them) daily so I can't get her to stop tylenol so her body can fight it itself. My next hope is the peroxide and iodine. I do wish we had a doctor that would suggest these things but we are all scared to see any doctor at this point because they are either stupid or snowed by the propaganda of the day. I think I will have her increase vitamin C for now and will venture out to find nebulizer supplies. I appreciate all of your information a great deal, thank you! Also will be looking into high caloric alkaline food, she's dropping weight fast and was already too skinny from having g Salmonella earlier this summer. I would do anything to get her better....well except the Fauci Ouchie, hard pass on that!
Here is what a doctor told me this week. If you have a compounding pharmacy near by, they would have a lot of this. Regular pharmacy doesn’t seem to have the food grade hydrogen peroxide, but you can get it on Amazon. Hope it might help!
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It was a pleasure speaking with you today. Here is what we discussed: 1.Try adding bone broth and get plenty of rest
Studies have shown ivermectin inhibits replication of SARS-CoV-2 and seasonal influenza viruses, inhibits inflammation through several pathways, lowers viral load, protects against organ damage, prevents transmission of SARS-CoV-2 when taken before or after exposure, speeds recovery and lowers risk of hospitalization and death in COVID-19 patients.
Continue current medications
Start Orthobiotic (probiotic) 1-2 capsules a day
At first signs of illness (cold, flu, covid, sinus infection, etc), you can do the food grade hydrogen peroxide neb treatments up to hourly, and then as you improve, do them 4 x a day until well. Use 1ml peroxide + 2ml saline for each neb. If you notice burning in sinuses or eyes, you can decrease the peroxide to 0.5ml +2ml saline.
Budesonide (steroid) for nebulizer. At first symptoms of COVID, nebulize this twice daily. (Alternate with the hydrogen peroxide-e.g. steroid, then peroxide, then steroid, then peroxide, throughout the day)
Even if you aren't short of breath, I recommend doing these steroid nebs every day, twice daily. This may help prevent the loss of taste and smell that is so common with covid.
8.Since COVID increases the risk for blood clots, including for weeks beyond recovery, please take a baby aspirin (81mg) daily for 6 weeks.
We also highly recommend the following supplements:
vitamin C 1000mg twice daily for prevention, or 2000mg 3 x a day until recovered if you are sick.
Vitamin D 2000iu daily for prevention, or 5000iu daily until recovered if you are sick.
Quercetin 250mg daily for prevention, or twice daily until recovered if you are sick.
Zinc 50mg daily for prevention, or 100mg daily until recovered if you are sick.
Melatonin 6mg at bedtime for prevention, or 10mg at bedtime until recovered if you are sick.
Avoid sugar since it immediately suppresses your immune system for several hours.
If you don't already have one, you should purchase a pulse oximeter on amazon or possibly at a local pharmacy. They typically cost $10-20. It's important to monitor oxygen saturation in the blood with COVID. If your oxygen saturation is consistently below 93%, OR you are breathing at a rate of 23 breaths per minute or higher, seek medical attention immediately.
You can take Alka Seltzer cold/flu daytime and nighttime versions as needed for symptom relief. (if you can't find this one, or have another preference such as Theraflu or Nyquil, that's ok too). These often have Tylenol (acetaminophen), ibuprofen, or aspirin (salicylic acid), so be sure to not duplicate these. Use immodium as needed.
Holy shit Batman this is all incredibly helpful!! It looks like Natural Grocers also carry food grade hydrogen peroxide so it's possible I can get my hands on that today! Also excited to see some increased vitamins, she has not been taking them at the levels recommended when sick so we will increase those as well! Thank you so much for this great information!
MAKE SURE YOU ADJUST THE RATIO ACCORDING TO THE HP%
One ml of 12% is 4 ml of 3%.
BE CAREFUL!!! U will fry ur lungs if you over do it!!!!
Thank you farpointpatriot for chiming in with this information, I truly appreciate all who are pitching in here!
It's funny you mentioned this as I am writing down exactly what I will be looking for in the store! I don't want to order online as I'm afraid the package will get hung up like everything else that I have ordered recently (except the horse paste ironically). I DID take notice of the different percentages of HP and seriously was double checking this with the dilution ratios. For anyone else following all of this extremely helpful information, I was sent this link which has some helpful information about hydrogen peroxide and iodine treatments! I agree that we need to be extremely careful with this so I am trying to back this up in several places so I don't kill my Mom! https://www.spiritofchange.org/nebulized-peroxide-a-simple-remedy-for-covid-19/
So I'd like to add I have a buddy who had covid, he didn't isolate from his wife, shared drink, same bed all that and she didn't get it .
Now I thought it was weird considering how infectious it's supposed to be.
I'm not sure her blood type as o type seems to be less susceptible to infection
I don't buy the asymptomatic line. I don't think it's correct. Asymptomatic means not infected as far as I'm concerned. Did they develop any symptoms? Was it the PCR test that determined positive status?
How can you spread a virus without sneezing, spreading snot and droplets around, coughing. Without those actions it would be difficult to spread. It's been shown the virus can't survive on hard surfaces, like door knobs, counters
https://www.statnews.com/2020/06/09/who-comments-asymptomatic-spread-covid-19/
Says extremely rare, i.e. basically non existent
You guys are passing around the lakes to university information like it means something. How funny is that!
I will never believe that WHO, CDC, NIH, dr. Fauci, or any other medical expert for the rest of my life. Thank God we have a doctor that will prescribe the things that we need to get well, but I question everything and everyone now.
There’s not one University, pharmaceutical company, hospital, nurse, or doctor who’s been part of this scamdemic It has not made money off of producing article such as this. More fear porn!
Everybody needs to be super Duper scared
There is a paper from 2020 that showed that about 80% of people have t cell recognition which stops the virus in the mucosal system. This results in little to no symptoms if an infection develops at all. So it is contagious, but probably you are just not susceptible.
Ahh thanks. I am going to do this in a few weeks and see if I get a result. https://www.t-detect.com/
Yes, I'm looking into getting that test done too, as a positive result would make my family feel better about by, um, non-conforming views on covid treatment (whinny).
The paper I referenced is this one
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41590-020-00808-x.pdf
I don't know whether the T-detect test works the same way, they bill it as being a test of having had covid but I think people can have t-cell recognition without ever having been exposed.
The 80% result is backed up observationally by the "Diamond Princess" which had an infection rate of 19%, and 20% is also more or less the estimated household transmission rate. (For household transmission, it's an average - many households will have 100% transmission - but the average would be reflective of the population overall)
Do you share a bathroom?
Also, they have found a definitive genetic link to those who are resistant to covid; although they try to downplay it.
Yup.