On a telegram account recently someone posted a clip of Biden talking about Afghanistan in 2002 or so. In the comments people started saying that, that guy is not Biden he does not look anything like him nor does he sound like him.
And then people had to educate them that the guy we think is Biden happens to be completely different than the original guy. Point is, the difference is so acute that if you just look at a picture you can immediately tell whether its "original" or "new" Biden.
You understand that different people are different, right?
I'm not saying that this is definitively the same Joe Biden, but simply because someone else didn't age so poorly is not definitive proof that this HAS TO ABSOLUTELY BE with 100% certainty a double. That's not a valid argument.
There may be valid arguments as to why this isn't the same Joe Biden, but yours as presented here is not one.
On a telegram account recently someone posted a clip of Biden talking about Afghanistan in 2002 or so. In the comments people started saying that, that guy is not Biden he does not look anything like him nor does he sound like him.
Point is, the difference is so acute that if you just look at a picture you can immediately tell whether its "original" or "new" Biden.
There's YOUR reasons, from your mouth.
Then, someone replied to you with a logical followup that 20 years will do things to a person, and you replied that since these people didn't age so drastically then OBVIOUSLY Biden MUST be a double (again, I'm not saying he's NOT a double, my problem is purely with your reasoning).
None. I am presenting my assumption and also an observation
You're presenting a line of reasoning that is illogical. That's my entire point. There are other lines of reasoning that could be used in place of your presented one.
Don't act coy and act like you're not saying these things. Your comments have only one valid interpretation.
I am having a hard time understanding why so much animosity! Go back and read the comments and you will understand that you are putting words into my mouth.
If I wanted to present my case that Biden is not the same guy I would do so with a lot more explicit evidences - something that at this point on this forum is no longer needed because most people are fully awake.
On a telegram account recently someone posted a clip of Biden talking about Afghanistan in 2002 or so. In the comments people started saying that, that guy is not Biden he does not look anything like him nor does he sound like him.
Observation about how people outside this forum are also slowly waking up
Point is, the difference is so acute that if you just look at a picture you can immediately tell whether its "original" or "new" Biden.
Again, an observation that the difference is so acute. Dont confuse this observation to me claiming this is the ONLY reason I believe so.
Then, someone replied to you with a logical followup that 20 years will do things to a person, and you replied that since these people didn't age so drastically then OBVIOUSLY Biden MUST be a double (again, I'm not saying he's NOT a double, my problem is purely with your reasoning).
I will post exactly what the person replied so you will understand your logical flaw in jumping to that conclusion:
That and 20yrs, in 2002 we all looked like a diff person
He made a statement that everyone looks different 20 years later, and I simply pointed out that is not true by offering examples. Again, this is not me saying "OBVIOUSLY Biden MUST be a double"
Honestly, if you believe he is the same guy doesn't bother me in the least. Not sure why you are getting so worked up. If you want to have a debate then start a debate. Ask me politely for my compelling reasons to believe he is different, or offer your compelling reasons why you believe he is the same. Anything else you are arguing is simply against an imaginary argument.
I am having a hard time understanding why so much animosity!
What have I done that is hostile? Quote me.
Go back and read the comments and you will understand that you are putting words into my mouth.
I literally quoted your words back to you.
If I wanted to present my case that Biden is not the same guy I would do so with a lot more explicit evidences - something that at this point on this forum is no longer needed because most people are fully awake.
Yet you're still doing the things that I mentioned above...
On a telegram account recently someone posted a clip of Biden talking about Afghanistan in 2002 or so. In the comments people started saying that, that guy is not Biden he does not look anything like him nor does he sound like him.
Observation about how people outside this forum are also slowly waking up
They're waking up to what? What evidence are they being presented with that would wake them up? Clearly they are waking up to the idea that Biden isn't the same guy purely from his drastic change in looks from previous years. There is no other context that this statement could possibly be referring to. For you to pass off this comment of yours as merely meaning that people are waking up is a blatant lie in the form of omission. They are waking up to something from something. You cannot just ignore half of the evidence here and act like you're telling the truth. Your comment as written intrinsically relates to more than the fact that they are waking up, from all logical outside viewpoints unless you explicitly clarify this yourself.
Point is, the difference is so acute that if you just look at a picture you can immediately tell whether its "original" or "new" Biden.
Again, an observation that the difference is so acute. Dont confuse this observation to me claiming this is the ONLY reason I believe so.
My comments to you have NEVER involved this being your only reasoning; Merely that this reasoning itself is improper and does not stand on it's face without significant supporting evidence to go along with it. Since this is the only evidence that you've provided, no outside reader has any reason to believe that you have any other evidence, anyways.
That and 20yrs, in 2002 we all looked like a diff person
He made a statement that everyone looks different 20 years later, and I simply pointed out that is not true by offering examples. Again, this is not me saying "OBVIOUSLY Biden MUST be a double"
How did you write all of this and still miss my point? Did you just not read my comments for more than 2 seconds and decide to start arguing with me?
Honestly, if you believe he is the same guy doesn't bother me in the least. Not sure why you are getting so worked up.
Again I don't see why you think I'm worked up about this. I responded to you with simple logical statements, and you're now claiming that the sky isn't blue.
If you claim you cannot see that your statements give off the sentiment that you're using these claims of yours in support that Biden is a double, then you're being coy.
Honestly, if you believe he is the same guy doesn't bother me in the least.
Ask me politely for my compelling reasons to believe he is different, or offer your compelling reasons why you believe he is the same.
For at least the third time, the point of my comments have nothing to do with whether Biden is a double or not. If you can't read basic English I'm not going to bother continuing this conversation.
If you want to have a debate then start a debate.
I did. That's exactly what I did. You have this completely false notion that I'm upset at you, which is entirely baseless.
Anything else you are arguing is simply against an imaginary argument.
I've been incredibly clear as to what the point of my comments are for; Your willful ignorance of that fact is not my fault. You are the one choosing to argue against an imaginary figure, here.
I've done nothing hostile to you and yet you chose to get defensive towards me, and ignore/purposely misinterpret my comments and points.
If I've done something wrong to you, quote me. I haven't done any of the things you've accused me of. You should rethink how you approach confrontational conversations; They are not inherently negative by any means.
Real Biden’s jaw is more forward, skull is different shape, neck shorter eyes wider, ears higher placement on skull. Cannot be changed by plastic surgery. Guy in WH is not Joe Biden!
I just keep looking at the chin, there's a big dent in the new Bidens chin, and the old Biden has a smooth round chin. I get people get facelifts, and maybe the earlobes get sewn back on with the face, but chiseling the bone of the chin until it has a giant dent seems a bit extreme if you're just trying to look younger. Then there's the really pale blue eyes on the old Biden, they weren't a common blue color, I assume contacts couldn't reproduce that considering they're never that light anymore, they're either dark blue or brown looking.
The face you wish you could forget, of young(ish) Biden creeping on little girls, ages into the face of the guy on the left.
I've seen the guy on the right a lot in the news recently, but don't know who he is. The face of the guy on the left doesn't age into the face of the guy on the right.
Same guy kid. Heavy drug use mixed with tons of plastic surgery mixed with getting fucking old. I’m a professional illustrator with countless hours of life drawing classes. I’ve followed Biden since the 80s. That’s obviously the same guy.
On a telegram account recently someone posted a clip of Biden talking about Afghanistan in 2002 or so. In the comments people started saying that, that guy is not Biden he does not look anything like him nor does he sound like him.
And then people had to educate them that the guy we think is Biden happens to be completely different than the original guy. Point is, the difference is so acute that if you just look at a picture you can immediately tell whether its "original" or "new" Biden.
I meant 2012 and you can look at Trump or Bush or Bill Clinton even from 80s and there is no confusion if its the same.
You understand that different people are different, right?
I'm not saying that this is definitively the same Joe Biden, but simply because someone else didn't age so poorly is not definitive proof that this HAS TO ABSOLUTELY BE with 100% certainty a double. That's not a valid argument.
There may be valid arguments as to why this isn't the same Joe Biden, but yours as presented here is not one.
What exactly have I presented as a reason? None. I am presenting my assumption and also an observation
There's YOUR reasons, from your mouth.
Then, someone replied to you with a logical followup that 20 years will do things to a person, and you replied that since these people didn't age so drastically then OBVIOUSLY Biden MUST be a double (again, I'm not saying he's NOT a double, my problem is purely with your reasoning).
You're presenting a line of reasoning that is illogical. That's my entire point. There are other lines of reasoning that could be used in place of your presented one.
Don't act coy and act like you're not saying these things. Your comments have only one valid interpretation.
I am having a hard time understanding why so much animosity! Go back and read the comments and you will understand that you are putting words into my mouth.
If I wanted to present my case that Biden is not the same guy I would do so with a lot more explicit evidences - something that at this point on this forum is no longer needed because most people are fully awake.
Observation about how people outside this forum are also slowly waking up
Again, an observation that the difference is so acute. Dont confuse this observation to me claiming this is the ONLY reason I believe so.
I will post exactly what the person replied so you will understand your logical flaw in jumping to that conclusion:
He made a statement that everyone looks different 20 years later, and I simply pointed out that is not true by offering examples. Again, this is not me saying "OBVIOUSLY Biden MUST be a double"
Honestly, if you believe he is the same guy doesn't bother me in the least. Not sure why you are getting so worked up. If you want to have a debate then start a debate. Ask me politely for my compelling reasons to believe he is different, or offer your compelling reasons why you believe he is the same. Anything else you are arguing is simply against an imaginary argument.
What have I done that is hostile? Quote me.
I literally quoted your words back to you.
Yet you're still doing the things that I mentioned above...
They're waking up to what? What evidence are they being presented with that would wake them up? Clearly they are waking up to the idea that Biden isn't the same guy purely from his drastic change in looks from previous years. There is no other context that this statement could possibly be referring to. For you to pass off this comment of yours as merely meaning that people are waking up is a blatant lie in the form of omission. They are waking up to something from something. You cannot just ignore half of the evidence here and act like you're telling the truth. Your comment as written intrinsically relates to more than the fact that they are waking up, from all logical outside viewpoints unless you explicitly clarify this yourself.
My comments to you have NEVER involved this being your only reasoning; Merely that this reasoning itself is improper and does not stand on it's face without significant supporting evidence to go along with it. Since this is the only evidence that you've provided, no outside reader has any reason to believe that you have any other evidence, anyways.
How did you write all of this and still miss my point? Did you just not read my comments for more than 2 seconds and decide to start arguing with me?
Again I don't see why you think I'm worked up about this. I responded to you with simple logical statements, and you're now claiming that the sky isn't blue.
If you claim you cannot see that your statements give off the sentiment that you're using these claims of yours in support that Biden is a double, then you're being coy.
For at least the third time, the point of my comments have nothing to do with whether Biden is a double or not. If you can't read basic English I'm not going to bother continuing this conversation.
I did. That's exactly what I did. You have this completely false notion that I'm upset at you, which is entirely baseless.
I've been incredibly clear as to what the point of my comments are for; Your willful ignorance of that fact is not my fault. You are the one choosing to argue against an imaginary figure, here.
I've done nothing hostile to you and yet you chose to get defensive towards me, and ignore/purposely misinterpret my comments and points.
If I've done something wrong to you, quote me. I haven't done any of the things you've accused me of. You should rethink how you approach confrontational conversations; They are not inherently negative by any means.
https://jamesfetzer.org/2020/11/jim-fetzer-the-real-joe-biden-vs-the-actor-joe-biden/
It's not the same Joe Biden.
My comment has nothing to do with whether or not he's the same Joe Biden or not. Please actually READ my comment.
How did his eye color change from blue to black
My comment has nothing to do with whether he's the same Joe Biden or not. Please actually READ my comment.
Sorry I just can't get over the eye color change
And face lifts
The funny thing is if one is an actor he has to play as a dementia patient.
This is what doesn't make sense to me, if they replaced him, why not have him "get better".
I figure they didn't totally "replace" him, but have a body double stand in when he's just too out of it to perform.
I believe Hillary also had one during the campaign in 2015 since she also wasn't in the best shape.
Can't have the double be too different from the real Resident Biden otherwise it would be obvious to almost everyone.
Real Biden’s jaw is more forward, skull is different shape, neck shorter eyes wider, ears higher placement on skull. Cannot be changed by plastic surgery. Guy in WH is not Joe Biden!
Maybe that is why he was chosen by the commies to be the president?
Don't use Google.
I just keep looking at the chin, there's a big dent in the new Bidens chin, and the old Biden has a smooth round chin. I get people get facelifts, and maybe the earlobes get sewn back on with the face, but chiseling the bone of the chin until it has a giant dent seems a bit extreme if you're just trying to look younger. Then there's the really pale blue eyes on the old Biden, they weren't a common blue color, I assume contacts couldn't reproduce that considering they're never that light anymore, they're either dark blue or brown looking.
'A dimple on the chin, there's a devil within..'
The one on the left exudes evil.
Plus Biden 2.0 has both attached and detached earlobes. Top and bottom v s middle.
Fake Biden does not need to fool Americans. He just needs to look close enough to fool the Chinese because we all look alike to them.
Who are these bidens?
I just want to see him rip the mask off, Mission: Impossible-style.
One of them is his brother.
The face you wish you could forget, of young(ish) Biden creeping on little girls, ages into the face of the guy on the left.
I've seen the guy on the right a lot in the news recently, but don't know who he is. The face of the guy on the left doesn't age into the face of the guy on the right.
They can never get hairline or ears right
I blame a face lift gonna horribly wrong. Like Kenny Rogers horribly wrong.
His brother has been out of sight out of mind. Compare left pictures to his brother. Just a thought.
Been saying this for a long time now. This is not the original Joe Biden.
They show the original Joe the other Bidens, and he says, "Wow. Number Five looks just like me!"
Same guy kid. Heavy drug use mixed with tons of plastic surgery mixed with getting fucking old. I’m a professional illustrator with countless hours of life drawing classes. I’ve followed Biden since the 80s. That’s obviously the same guy.
Poor argument. -5 for close minded naivety.