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– Tellstruth 24 points 4 years ago +24 / -0

You must have misunderstood TRUMP. He was referring to disinfecting the blood with CHLORINE DIOXIDE (a proven Covid cure) which is NOT bleach.

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– Azorca 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Tell. Whether or not we understand the meme, you are right, the fact is that Chlorine Dioxide can save us from this "pandemic". As the other cures become unavailable or are "restricted" or "banned". Chlorine Dioxide remains. Thank you for reminding us of it. Let's tip a 100 ml of 30 ppm Chlorine Dioxide sometime.

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– Chimera 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

I can't remember how he worded it but I just assumed he meant "something with the functionality of bleach but for your insides" by the way he said it.

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– KarateBob 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

He was talking about an internal UV light attachment for ventilators.

He was chatting with a doctor that was off to the side of the stage. He said it's like a disinfectant. Because UV light is.

He said nothing about injecting or bleach or clorox or lysol or whatever.

He wasn't joking. The doctor had spoken about this method and Trump basically casually said "yeah, sounds great, you go work on that".

He wasn't even giving a speech.

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– PeaceThruPrayer 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Chlorine Dioxide recent study as a CV19 solution:

https://t.me/chlorinedioxidetruth/98

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– KarateBob 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

OK, sure, but that's not really what Trump was talking about.

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– PeaceThruPrayer 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

True he just said “disinfectant” and wasn’t specific.

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– Chimera 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Oh right he said "disinfectant".

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– Chimera 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I know that's not the purpose of the meme lol. It's pretty good but the leftists are always going to trust the science juice over anything orange man says.

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– CantStumpIWin 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

You’re saying Trump joked about injecting bleach.

He never did that.

We get your explanation of your meme but you’re just pushing leftist disinfo.

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– CantStumpIWin 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I mean you’re pushing leftist propaganda idk what you expected.

No need to get your panties in a twist.

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– Chimera 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I know memes are supposed to be all in good fun, but my critique of the meme is that it doesn't really penetrate the other side. I don't agree with all the people telling you you're posting leftist disinformation because it's not that serious, you just were making a funny meme.

My logic for critiquing this meme is that whatever's in the vaccine, it's not bleach, so the analogy is not super strong. The best memes point out hypocrisy in a way that you can imagine even the other side understanding and being forced to think about their position. From the perspective of someone on the left, this just seems like a silly anti-vaxxer meme.

I think a better example on how you could use this meme format is have the first frame say "My body my choice for taking the vaccine" and the second frame say "My body my choice for killing babies". Even in that format the flaw in translation is they think the science juice is magical and that we are dealing with a black plague-like disease and not a disease that barely kills anybody and that you're killing grandma if you don't get the vaccine. A really good meme thinks about counterarguments and tries to address as many of them as possible.

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– fat50 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

He said "injecting disinfectant". Vitamin C is a disinfectant.

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– SoMuchWinning45 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

It's a joke, not a dick. Don't take it so hard.

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– AlaskaMAGA 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I’d appreciate a crayon spell out ;)

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– PeterHann13 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

A joke that reinforces false narratives shouldn’t be stickied

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– fat50 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

He still never said bleach. He said disinfectant. There are many disinfectants that aren't bleach. Vitamin C and D are both disinfectants and are perfectly safe to put in your body.

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– PeterHann13 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

“Durrr I’m mad because people are pointing out the fact that my shit tier meme reinforces misinformation in the middle of an information war”

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– Chimera 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

It's not that serious but there are other reasons to critique the meme. It's not a perfect analogous situation.

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– PeterHann13 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Oh yes, no malice intended because this is just for the memes, just funny cause OP has had to say “Again” in the comments like 5 times

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– cara_c 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Trump said, "A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposedly we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. (To Bryan) And I think you said you’re going to test that, too. Sounds interesting, right?

"And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful."

An honest media would have said, "Where can we learn more about these technologies? Who is developing them? Are they close to being available to the public? Will they be ready in time to help with COVID?" Etc.

But we have a very dishonest media that went with, "Trump says to guzzle Clorox!"

Later, Trump did say he was just being sarcastic, which I believe was not true, given his quoted comments above. But given the fun the lying media was having with its "Trump said to drink bleach" propaganda and how peripheral future technologies were to a problem that needed immediate solutions, I think he made the right call to end the discussion on this and move on, rather than try to explain himself more clearly.

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– magavoices 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

It's not brilliant.

Trump was specifically speaking of UV light as a disinfectant.

The MSM perverted that into an injection, and so does your meme.

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– magavoices 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Which is the equivalent to making a meme that says "Trump was pissed on by Russian prostitutes BUT Hunter raped his niece!"

No, Trump wasn't pissed on by Russian prostitutes.

No, Trump never said anything about injecting bleach.

If you think it's ok because "normies already think it so it's ok if I repeat it as though it were true", that just makes you stupid.

Nobody in their right mind would joke about injecting bleach. Your meme implies that Trump is not in his right mind. It's pathetic.

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– CreateAnAccountant 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

not really, trump never joked about bleach

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– FuckNewsom 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

What Trump was suggesting, but maybe didn't get the medical lingo 100% since he's not a doctor, is UBI (see link below).

And when a normal person would say something like the blood being cleaned, or whatever, a scientist would say the blood is disinfected.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6122858/

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– Chimera 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

It's kinda like you tried to slam two incompatible jokes into one meme with this one. You should have either focused on the false media message or focused on a comparison between something Trump suggested versus something that Biden mandated.

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– Chimera 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I get your intention. I think another angle you could come at it with could be the fact that it's Trump's vaccines but when Biden mandates it the Biden people cheer for it. I said this in the other comment but I think the problem is that the meme implies that bleach is just as dangerous as the vaccine because they are both chemical injections. Obviously the vaccine is bad, but I don't think it's as bad as injecting bleach outright. Which yes, they twisted Trump's words to imply, but even if we are going into the mind of a leftist for this meme, that bleach and vaccine comparison is a little extreme in my opinion. Injecting the vaccine isn't going to kill somebody in the same way injecting bleach would lol.

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– Chimera 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I don't agree with most of the critiques in the comments of this meme because I don't think they get to the heart of the problem. It's not a perfect analogy because "them thinking" doesn't logically translate very well to "is mandatory". The first frame deals with how people think while the second frame deals with the reality of a situation. The honest truth is that while the vaccine may be dangerous, it's not as dangerous as literally injecting bleach.

The way to make the logic perfect for this meme is to say "Trump suggests people should inject bleach to cure COVID" and then the second frame says: "Biden makes injecting bleach mandatory to cure COVID". In that sense, the logic would make sense, but obviously that's not the reality of the situation.

So I guess the flaw is that bleach and the vaccine are on different danger levels and this meme implies that a chemical vaccine injection is as dangerous as injecting bleach. It's hard to explain but that's basically the gist of the problem.

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