This person was following Q up until Jan/Feb and ever since has been basically a fulltime doomer. We were catching up and I brought up Devolution and the Law of War Q theory.
He immediately started attacking me saying all of it is bullshit and a psyop to get patriots to stay complacent while communists took over. I tried to explain that Q was never about just sitting back and waiting for the military to come save us. That WE are the plan and it was about preparing us for what is yet to come. I said this is war and we need to realize that and understand that war is hell. He doesn't buy it.
He thinks Trump is in on it and is trolling us patriots while the DS moves in for the kill. He believes patriots have been successfully pacified waiting for a savior that will never come. I asked what he believes should be done and he said organizing locally to prevent sheriffs and cops from carrying out NWO plans. I said that's all well and good, but it's not enough. Who's gonna take care of Big Pharma, the Fed, Big Tech, WHO? He seems to think they have won and we have to prepare to live under total tyranny for the foreseeable future.
We had to agree to disagree. I'm not sure there was anything I could say to change his mind.
Anyone else deal with this?
I never tell anyone WE are the plan. That just turns people off.
We may be a critical element of the plan, but if the military is not prepared to back us and defend their oath to the Constitution by moving against the deep state, then this is going to be a multi generation insurrection that will take decades to resolve. That's not a plan.
I don't even listen to the "we are the plan" BS.
If he really wants to know why the plan hasn't been activated yet, the likely reason is because the economic reset has not yet occurred. The Great Reset is the entire reason the deep state's actions have been predictable. The economic bubble is too big now and unstable. They had to be in charge for this moment, they were forced to risk everything for it, and that is why they are vulnerable.
Attacking when they are most vulnerable? THAT is a plan. And it is almost certainly coming soon to a theater of war near you.
Agreed. There is no good way this can be done without the military. And if "we are the plan" was always the plan, Q fucked that up royally. It would have been way better to start that plan back when Trump was in office.
Victim mentality is one of the biggest over-arching vices suppressing mankind. Until your friend realizes he’s acting out ‘hurt-people hurt people’ he won’t hear anything else you say. Q never gave a date and said to ‘enjoy the show’ while encouraging patriots to be digital soldiers and run for local office. It doesn’t sound like your friend ever understood the call to action that is Q
You dint change people’s minds. You present your evidence and your thunking process and they are feee to believe what they want to believe.
"Anyone else deal with this?"
Yep.
It didn't happen when they wanted in the manner they wanted therefore it's all bullshit. Mommy didn't give me a cookie Right! Now! so I hate mommy.
The TV people mock it is more proof its all bullshit. The msm lies to us constantly about everything but the msm said this so it must be true.
I had the same sort of discussion yesterday.
From a philosophical point of view Q always pointed to a couple of things:
If this guiding rod is not sufficient to dispel Dooming, then you are not dealing with a thinking human, but someone who is not a thinking human.
Not worthy at this point.
See, when Q said: symbolism will be their downfall, you have to understand the original profound knowledge behind it. Then you understand once this gets out to the excluded deplorable, that same symbol will destroy them.
Becoming a thinking human, conscious of being a spiritual being, not a slave, or a commodity, to awake to that power we all inherently posess on the plane of the cause, instead of being overcome by the plane of consequence, by the law of Nature, they will destroy themselves. That is the knowledge behind many of the symbols.
What they did is take the symbol, appropriate it, change it's meaning, and control you with their religare, or religion, what they put firmly in place:I keep them stupid, and you keep them poor, said the priest to the politician.
All we have to do is act in accordance with the law of Nature.
They know, if they can hide this from us, and keep us occupied on the plane of consequence, we will keep running around unenlightened , stupid, and afraid, locked up in the Hegelian dialectic of crisis /response. Self governance is then out of the question. Keep running, don't think.
I would call your attention to Thomans Paine's common sense.
Also meditate on the question what liberty has to do with liber= book.
What does reading mean? Derived from readan or reason, ratio, and in original Saxon the meaning was to harvest, bring together, ecclesiasticus. Sound familiar?
Understanding what you read, to think about it, and it's application leads to freedom.
It starts with grammar, logic and rhetoric.
I wish you all a good Sunday, and a belated sympathies in the memorial of 9/11.
Thank you for this.
Are there good examples of 1-8 in the drops? I feel like I've seen more instructions to sit back than stand up ("Got POPCORN?" "Enjoy the show." "You are watching a 'scripted' MOVIE." "Patriots in control.")
That said, it's hard to search "people" or "think" and not get a billion results, so maybe I'm just missing it.
Maybe a more creative approach would be: "think for yourself""trust yourself", etc.
Try qagg.news.
Yes, from a few people -- but mostly in my own mind. Wish I could say I never have doubts but, c'mon . . . every time things get so insane they can't possibly be fixed in a generation, things get WORSE. "Maybe the White Hats NEED to have the entire Military vaccinated and incapacitated by side-effects and indoctrinated into Marxism and transgendered and arrested or demoted if they stand up for the Constitution, so that . . ." -- what? What's THAT gonna do? Get a few more Matrix victims to wake up, right about when the Chinese are invading?
Then I snap out of it and return to normal. Sun Tzu and all that; "appear weak when you are strong," etc. etc. But I won't pretend I don't have the occasional dark day.
My biggest problem is the absolute certainty with which many write around here. I know it’s just hope porn, which is better than doom porn, but it’s all a little tired at this point.
“It HAD to be this way…” —> really ? no it didn’t
“NCSWIC” —> maybe, hopefully, hope my family gets to see it
“The best is yet to come” —> datefagging doesn’t work here, but it’s fine for team Q. Nearly every public statement about the election remedy by Lin Wood, Trump, et al, is bullshit. Soon ??? Soon was February, or March
Why we aren’t in the streets yet is beyond me
Yes. Absolute certainty is almost always unwarranted. Nearly every day, Science! discovers that some long-believed "fact" or assumption or theory is . . . wrong. That dynamic is everywhere in daily life but most people don't seem to notice.
I was driving myself crazy looking for empirical evidence that would tilt the scales of "doom vs creation" for the future, which in all probability doesn't exist. But, I do think that this is a war being waged on material, emotional and spiritual levels and that dooming gives energy to the Dark State. So, I made the conscious decision to believe and act on the "hope/awakening" path----it's not easy to stay informed and avoid the doom, but I'll be damned if I waste my energies giving them up to the DS parasites.
You exactly describe my approach to all of this. Glad to know I have company in the process.
What's your support system for those dark days?
I have a small but based group of family and friends. Also, I live far from any big city, so there's a lot more "live and let live" here than in most urban environments. I've always been an outlier in my thought so this situation -- being surrounded by people who don't agree with my world view -- isn't new to me. The sense that things could go south at any time isn't new either; I was in elementary school at a time when kids were taught to hide under their desks if a nuclear attack was coming ('cause THAT would keep us from being vaporized . . .).
The internet hugely widens the pool of minds available to us, and makes it easier to remember that other sane and relatively informed people exist. Not to mention all the theories, thoughts, and data it gives us access to. GA is a big part of my support system -- as is/was Q. One of Q's biggest virtues was creating a support system / rallying point / information spigot for freedom-minded patriots of all nations, fostering a sense of brotherhood among them, while showing us that we are NOT the tiny minority [they] want us to believe we are.
I just posted about still being chemtrailed as a reminder of this point. We as a planet, as a race, have some very rough months ahead and waiting for Godot is what disempowers us. Waiting for someone else to do the heavy lifting.
What is preventing him and others like him from "organizing locally"?
There are tons of redpilled doomers like him. Probably more than those who believe in Q at this point.
His main gripe was that too many people still want to sit on their asses and wait for someone else to come fix all these problems. He has been trying to organize local groups and he would be good at it except that he puts people off big time with his blackpill doom rhetoric. Anytime someone tries to post a win and say "hey look, good things are happening, maybe we are winning" he shuts them down and attacks them for peddling hopium.
He sounds like a 'my way or the highway' kind of guy. It's probably evident in other aspects of his life, but not clearly apparent until now.
I've watched two people I know very well go from seemingly sensible and caring to baffling stupidity and insensitivity as a result of fear and more pressure than they know how to cope with (one about personal life issues and another over the virus mess). Pressure can form a diamond or rupture a vessel.
Nobody can be convinced from us telling them about it. There’s way too much information involved for that. They have to take the time and do the research themselves but once they do it’s impossible I think to go back to sleep.
I kind of agree with him about organizing at the local level. When it all goes south and the bullets start flying then those in close proximity to the big tech and big pharma holdings burn them to the ground.
All hope isn’t lost, and I actually think we’re winning, but a counter argument is that we still have our 2A. They literally can’t do shit to us when we still have our weapons
I think people like him are fine. When he sees it he will believe it. And be on our side. I prepare and have acted like him locally. Yet I still have hope there is something going to happen. We have to plan for the worst and hope for the best. I never liked the "it's a movie est popcorn. Smile and watch the movie" shit. None of this is a movie. My family being persecuted and excommunicated from society while losing their jobs and kids being abused. (Not any longer because I have acted) is not a movie. This is my reality. So patriots that prepare at this point are going to be better off. Period.
until usury is abolished, we will always live under the tyranny of the money changers.
I once heard someone say "if you don't understand usufruct, yousa fucked!"
Slightly different but you reminded me of that word.