Of special note - sentence 2. Can we be determined to not have capacity if we do not agree with their "treatment." Yes, we can.
(1) Informed consent for health care for a patient who does not have the capacity to make a health care decision may be obtained from a person authorized to consent on behalf of such patient. For purposes of this section, a person who is of the age of consent to make a particular health care decision is presumed to have capacity, unless a health care provider reasonably determines the person lacks capacity to make the health care decision due to the person's demonstrated inability to understand and appreciate the nature and consequences of a health condition, the proposed treatment, including the anticipated results, benefits, risks, and alternatives to the proposed treatment, including nontreatment, and reach an informed decision as a result of cognitive impairment; and the health care provider documents the basis for the determination in the medical record.
I try to explain to people it’s not if this is coming. It’s when.
They always come for kids. Always.
The model is what I call the “20 year model” where they try to do big sociological shifts in norms every 20 years or so to boil the frog by generation.
...unless a health care provider reasonably determines the person lacks capacity to make the health care decision due to the person's demonstrated inability to understand and appreciate the nature and consequences of a health condition, the proposed treatment, including the anticipated results, benefits, risks, and alternatives to the proposed treatment, including nontreatment, and reach an informed decision
I'll go ahead and translate:
...unless a government robot feels you are refusing to take the death vaccine because you're too stupid to understand the benefits of it and the risks of not doing it.
You are missing the point that they can decide that you don't understand the gravity of the situation and can therefore decide for you.
"unless a health care provider reasonably determines the person lacks capacity to make the health care decision due to the person's demonstrated inability to understand and appreciate the nature and consequences of a health condition"
If a healthcare worker decides that you don't demonstrate the ability to appreciate consequences of not acting, they will decide to act for you. You really have to try to parse what they are saying. The above sentence can be interpreted to mean this very easily. It doesn't say anywhere that this is specifically for dementia patients or people who are otherwise not cognizant of a particular situation. That means it is for everyone.
Washington State - Informed Consent Law effective Jan 1,2022
https://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=7.70.065
Of special note - sentence 2. Can we be determined to not have capacity if we do not agree with their "treatment." Yes, we can.
(1) Informed consent for health care for a patient who does not have the capacity to make a health care decision may be obtained from a person authorized to consent on behalf of such patient. For purposes of this section, a person who is of the age of consent to make a particular health care decision is presumed to have capacity, unless a health care provider reasonably determines the person lacks capacity to make the health care decision due to the person's demonstrated inability to understand and appreciate the nature and consequences of a health condition, the proposed treatment, including the anticipated results, benefits, risks, and alternatives to the proposed treatment, including nontreatment, and reach an informed decision as a result of cognitive impairment; and the health care provider documents the basis for the determination in the medical record.
This is why we never give up our guns.
That's an "if you don't agree with us we do it anyway," clause.
Exactly! And they will be using it to make decisions for our kids and grandkids in no time at all. The jab and gender change close at hand.
I try to explain to people it’s not if this is coming. It’s when.
They always come for kids. Always.
The model is what I call the “20 year model” where they try to do big sociological shifts in norms every 20 years or so to boil the frog by generation.
Well - Pepe ain’t getting boiled!!!
I'll go ahead and translate:
...unless a government robot feels you are refusing to take the death vaccine because you're too stupid to understand the benefits of it and the risks of not doing it.
Guess what, folks
That's everyone
Seems pretty standard. For dementia patients etc? What am I missing?
It’s not for dementia patients, it’s for everyone they disagree with.
You are missing the point that they can decide that you don't understand the gravity of the situation and can therefore decide for you.
"unless a health care provider reasonably determines the person lacks capacity to make the health care decision due to the person's demonstrated inability to understand and appreciate the nature and consequences of a health condition"
If a healthcare worker decides that you don't demonstrate the ability to appreciate consequences of not acting, they will decide to act for you. You really have to try to parse what they are saying. The above sentence can be interpreted to mean this very easily. It doesn't say anywhere that this is specifically for dementia patients or people who are otherwise not cognizant of a particular situation. That means it is for everyone.
I was just going to answer them with a less eloquent response. Thanks.
I get that, but I'm asking, is this new? Seems like that sort of thing would have to happen even before covid.