I know I'm in a minority here, but I've had both Pfizer shots, and everyone I know has had it (family and friends). Not one person has experienced any issues, and no one is acting 'sketchy'. No one is second-guessing their decision. My g/f is scheduled for the booster next week. Everyone is grateful they got it, and is taking full advantage of the benefits. A good friend of mine is over 80 years old and just flew to London (from US) on vacation. After that she's off to Paris, then on a river cruise on the Rhone (all requiring the vax). Where I live, you need vax proof to enter restaurants and we are eating out all the time. So it's not an issue for me or anyone I know. If it's good enough for Trump, it's good enough for me.
I hear a lot of people use this logic. Everyone who took the vaccine is fine so whats the problem? Does that feel like a logical way to think? Not worry about whether the vaccines are actually effective at all or not? Not worried about long term safety issues? Not worried about ADE when the flu season actually hits? Not worried that almost all around the world with large vaccination numbers, majority of people being hospitalised for covid are actually vaccined?
But most importantly, not worried to make a decision about something about which free exchange of information is being actively suppressed?
Yep. People's personal experiences will trump anything VAERS or Drs say.
I have a liberal acquaintance who simply refuses to believe there could possibly be anything wrong with the vaccines, because several people he knew died in the hospital of "covid", but no one has had any bad reactions to the jab around him.
Doesn't matter what I send him, his personal experience trumps everything.
There are a lot of people with a variety of agendas pushing negative stories about the vax. I could easily construct a similar narrative that would convince you that air travel is totally unsafe. Secret reports from Boeing, photos of crash sites, warped statistics. Heck, I could even do the same to convince you that driving is totally unsafe. Or eating meat. Or using shampoo. The fact is, literally millions of independent doctors around the world are in support of the vax. The only valid argument against it is that it is untried/untested; that I will accept. But misinterpreting VAERS data and showing 'tentacled monsters' in the vax doesn't cut it for me.
"Most Importantly" - the mantra of the anti-vax crowd here seems to be that we 'vaxxed' are 'living in fear'. This thread (and hundreds like it) are proof of the opposite - the unvaxxed are living in total fear of a harmless vaccine, while we 'vaxxed' are happily going about our lives taking full advantage of science and medicine.
I could easily construct a similar narrative that would convince you that air travel is totally unsafe
Funnily you made my point. Just like you can prove flying and driving unsafe by selectively focusing on certain stats, you can do the same to prove Covid-19 is dangerous. And thats exactly what they did to push their vaxx, and u fell for it, even though u understood this technique.
the mantra of the anti-vax crowd here seems to be that we 'vaxxed' are 'living in fear'
we couldnt care how the vaxxed are living as long as they dont involve us in their stupidity. We do however care for them to be safe, since a lot of our friends and family are vaxxed.
Just like you can prove flying and driving unsafe by selectively focusing on certain stats, you can do the same to prove Covid-19 is dangerous. And thats exactly what they did to push their vaxx, and u fell for it, even though u understood this technique.
Right. Both sides (of the argument) are playing the same game. So you can 'prove' the vax is dangerous, I can 'prove' Covid is dangerous. So ultimately, it comes down to a choice. I'm willing to go with the decision of literally millions of professional, independent doctors. Don't get me wrong - I HATE big pharma and don't trust them, but I do trust the medical profession as a whole because it is made up of individuals like you and me.
My father was tough and strong as a younger man and became a kind, wise, and gentle soul in old age as men like him usually do. Once he took it this year, at the fine age of 80, he became cruel. Cruel with his words. He calls his child a murderer for not falling in line. You're lucky, Ivan, as there are a lot of people reporting dramatic personality changes in people who took it.
Wow...is your Dad a God-fearing man? Our relationship with others is so KEY. I'm vowing to never compromise my relationship with my daughter over this. I'm praying she is spared any complications...
Just take a look at this site (GA) - hundreds of people literally calling for public hangings and executions! These are supposedly God-fearing Christians. Covid has brought out the worst in many people. But having said that, everyone I hang around with is happy and simply getting on with life.
Will do. My g/f got the vax in Feb; my older friend got it in Jan. I got it in April. Most of my friends got it in April. I'll be sure to report back. Meanwhile I'll be enjoying international travel, fine dining, live sports, live concerts.
I’ve enjoyed all of these things while you were home cowering in fear fand bathing in moral superiority as to not kill grandma. Honest question, why are you here? To troll or because you feel like something is off about the whole thing?
I'm here on this particular thread because I see people literally in tears over the vax. Talk about not living in fear! People have worked themselves up into a frenzy about the vax and are inventing all manner of crazy narratives about it. Tentacled monsters was the last thing I saw. I'm just trying to convey a different perspective ... not everyone out there who is vaxxed is dropping like flies. So - if you don't want it, don't get it - let freedom reign - but don't drive yourself to despair because others are getting it. They will be just fine.
So...WHY the name IvanMectin if you're "protected"? Since WE KNOW the vaxx doesn't protect shit, you got it for effin fine dining & a passport to events then? What a CROCK. I don't NEED OR WANT events shared with idiots frankly. I'm fully entertained without hanging with tards. Them placing restrictions on those who don't trust Big Pharma is utter BULLSHIT.
I know I'm in a minority here, but I've had both Pfizer shots, and everyone I know has had it (family and friends). Not one person has experienced any issues, and no one is acting 'sketchy'. No one is second-guessing their decision. My g/f is scheduled for the booster next week. Everyone is grateful they got it, and is taking full advantage of the benefits. A good friend of mine is over 80 years old and just flew to London (from US) on vacation. After that she's off to Paris, then on a river cruise on the Rhone (all requiring the vax). Where I live, you need vax proof to enter restaurants and we are eating out all the time. So it's not an issue for me or anyone I know. If it's good enough for Trump, it's good enough for me.
I hear a lot of people use this logic. Everyone who took the vaccine is fine so whats the problem? Does that feel like a logical way to think? Not worry about whether the vaccines are actually effective at all or not? Not worried about long term safety issues? Not worried about ADE when the flu season actually hits? Not worried that almost all around the world with large vaccination numbers, majority of people being hospitalised for covid are actually vaccined?
But most importantly, not worried to make a decision about something about which free exchange of information is being actively suppressed?
Yep. People's personal experiences will trump anything VAERS or Drs say.
I have a liberal acquaintance who simply refuses to believe there could possibly be anything wrong with the vaccines, because several people he knew died in the hospital of "covid", but no one has had any bad reactions to the jab around him.
Doesn't matter what I send him, his personal experience trumps everything.
There are a lot of people with a variety of agendas pushing negative stories about the vax. I could easily construct a similar narrative that would convince you that air travel is totally unsafe. Secret reports from Boeing, photos of crash sites, warped statistics. Heck, I could even do the same to convince you that driving is totally unsafe. Or eating meat. Or using shampoo. The fact is, literally millions of independent doctors around the world are in support of the vax. The only valid argument against it is that it is untried/untested; that I will accept. But misinterpreting VAERS data and showing 'tentacled monsters' in the vax doesn't cut it for me.
"Most Importantly" - the mantra of the anti-vax crowd here seems to be that we 'vaxxed' are 'living in fear'. This thread (and hundreds like it) are proof of the opposite - the unvaxxed are living in total fear of a harmless vaccine, while we 'vaxxed' are happily going about our lives taking full advantage of science and medicine.
Funnily you made my point. Just like you can prove flying and driving unsafe by selectively focusing on certain stats, you can do the same to prove Covid-19 is dangerous. And thats exactly what they did to push their vaxx, and u fell for it, even though u understood this technique.
we couldnt care how the vaxxed are living as long as they dont involve us in their stupidity. We do however care for them to be safe, since a lot of our friends and family are vaxxed.
Right. Both sides (of the argument) are playing the same game. So you can 'prove' the vax is dangerous, I can 'prove' Covid is dangerous. So ultimately, it comes down to a choice. I'm willing to go with the decision of literally millions of professional, independent doctors. Don't get me wrong - I HATE big pharma and don't trust them, but I do trust the medical profession as a whole because it is made up of individuals like you and me.
My father was tough and strong as a younger man and became a kind, wise, and gentle soul in old age as men like him usually do. Once he took it this year, at the fine age of 80, he became cruel. Cruel with his words. He calls his child a murderer for not falling in line. You're lucky, Ivan, as there are a lot of people reporting dramatic personality changes in people who took it.
Wow...is your Dad a God-fearing man? Our relationship with others is so KEY. I'm vowing to never compromise my relationship with my daughter over this. I'm praying she is spared any complications...
Just take a look at this site (GA) - hundreds of people literally calling for public hangings and executions! These are supposedly God-fearing Christians. Covid has brought out the worst in many people. But having said that, everyone I hang around with is happy and simply getting on with life.
Report back with your g/f and friends and family in a few months. Can’t wait to hear the stories
Will do. My g/f got the vax in Feb; my older friend got it in Jan. I got it in April. Most of my friends got it in April. I'll be sure to report back. Meanwhile I'll be enjoying international travel, fine dining, live sports, live concerts.
I’ve enjoyed all of these things while you were home cowering in fear fand bathing in moral superiority as to not kill grandma. Honest question, why are you here? To troll or because you feel like something is off about the whole thing?
I'm here on this particular thread because I see people literally in tears over the vax. Talk about not living in fear! People have worked themselves up into a frenzy about the vax and are inventing all manner of crazy narratives about it. Tentacled monsters was the last thing I saw. I'm just trying to convey a different perspective ... not everyone out there who is vaxxed is dropping like flies. So - if you don't want it, don't get it - let freedom reign - but don't drive yourself to despair because others are getting it. They will be just fine.
So...WHY the name IvanMectin if you're "protected"? Since WE KNOW the vaxx doesn't protect shit, you got it for effin fine dining & a passport to events then? What a CROCK. I don't NEED OR WANT events shared with idiots frankly. I'm fully entertained without hanging with tards. Them placing restrictions on those who don't trust Big Pharma is utter BULLSHIT.