These bastards are trying to rewrite history. WE have all looked at the death rates and compared the numbers. 2020 was no higher than previous years, in fact I remember it being less.
The death rate for 2020 is a number similar to Biden's vote count. It keeps growing afterwards until we get it where it collaborates the agenda they want to portray.
Do you think they will steal a election but think its out of the realm of possibilities that the would lie about a death rate to make their plandemic look legitimate?
I looked for the numbers you asked for, I thought they would be easy to find. I searched them before and they were readily accessible. It appears they have scrubbed the old data and replaced it with new data. I can look later but I don't have the time right now, I'm at work.
I will go back and search CDC archived data when I get a chance.
Thank you for your reply! I also noticed that they had the 2020 deaths up then took them down several months ago. Why is it that every other year they have posted yearly deaths no problem but they are having a hell of a time posting 2020 deaths.
There are lots or parallels when you start to look. Both are "global problems" so they say they need global solutions thus providing a role for the UN (IPCC/WHO). Both make money for the rich: vaccines, renewables. Both have just one side shown in the MSM. Opposing views are suppressed even in the scientific literature. Opponents are demonised. The Pope supports both scams! Governments are fully on board. etc.
I looked through the cdc site where they claim they got the statistics and there is no way that 2020 added up to that 3.4 mil number they blew out their ass. FAKE NEWS!
The origin of the 2020 death rate being lower than previous years was a Johns Hopkins study conducted by a Professor in Economics using Federal Government data. And throughout the pandemic, Johns Hopkins has been cited as best source of information.
Sorry, don’t remember the Professor’s name at the moment. Naturally this made DS heads explode and the revisionist historians went to work immediately. They demanded the student paper which published the study retract it. Then fact checkers started “debunking” the study.
It’s doubtful the available data at the time is archived so it’s difficult to validate the Professor’s conclusions. But on the surface it is logical, the majority of people who died with covid did so due to co-morbidities. Therefore, covid would not necessarily cause excess deaths year over year because most of the people who died with covid were at the point where one additional illness would cause them to pass away.
That just about accounts for the massive increase in murders, suicides, accidental overdoses, and death due to neglect of medical treatment for other problems because things like cancer screenings and treatments were postponed and cancelled.
Also... you're telling me that despite all that, including the pandemic that's supposedly going around, the US's total death rate per 100k didn't even get past an average year in the 1940s?
What a joke. I'm TOTALLY SURE they aren't fudging those numbers.
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no but if there is a 20% increase in deaths and thats substantial. Do I think these are covid deaths? no i dont i think they are but they are saying they are but i think they are vaccine deaths and murder deaths and suicide deaths.
I agree that lies permeate on both sides. That's why we can't look at the argument from a ideological perspective, but my view everything through the lens of freedom.
Both lies can be dangerous, but I will take a partial truth that is bent toward freedom over a half lie that turns toward slavery every time.
(Not very good example, but hopefully will convey my point)
Imposing Tariffs on countries that dump steal will lead to massive job growth
Unrestricted free markets will lead to increase in trade.
#1 is partial truth as it may lead to only moderate job growth (Truthful Hyperbole)
#2 is half lie because the increase in trade will be mostly all import (Deceptive Lie)
The article claims two things:
20% more people died in 2020 than in 2019
Claims that Covid is the reason for additional deaths
I would have no problem believing that 20% more people died in 2020. The important part of the claim is "Did they died of Covid".
It would be a more incredible argument to claim no increase in deaths occurred in 2020, and that would run counter to most of our argument here. After all aren't we the ones that believe a massive depopulation scheme is underfoot. Are we not making claims that hundreds of thousands are being murdered by denial of the most effective prophylaxis and therapeutic off-label drugs.
I don't deny that more people died, and it's no wonder. I dispute the claim that the increases were mostly attributed to the morbidity of the SARS-CoV2 virus.
It would be a more incredible argument to claim no increase in deaths occurred in 2020, and that would run counter to most of our argument here. After all aren't we the ones that believe a massive depopulation scheme is underfoot. Are we not making claims that hundreds of thousands are being murdered by denial of the most effective prophylaxis and therapeutic off-label drugs.
The lockdowns for much of 2020 reduced the number of automobile accidents. If I had to guess (no proof), those deaths were substituted for those who either died directly from renal failure due to remdesivir or drowning to death on ventilators.
But, but I think there is a solid argument that in the net, lockdowns resulted in an increase in deaths, and not a decrease. Therefore, if this is true, then "less automobile accidents" theory would not hold. (Also see bold text below)
There was a sharp decline in visits to emergency rooms and an increase in fatal heart attacks because patients didn’t receive prompt treatment. Many fewer people were screened for cancer. Social isolation contributed to excess deaths from dementia and Alzheimer’s.
The number of people killed last year in motor-vehicle accidents in the United States rose to the highest level in more than a decade, even though Americans did significantly less driving than in 2019. It was the steepest annual increase in the fatality rate per mile traveled in nearly a century, apparently due to more substance abuse and more high-speed driving on empty roads
The National Safety Council (NSC) estimate of total motor-vehicle deaths for the first six months of 2021 is 21,450, up 16% from 18,480 in 2020 and up 17% from 18,384 in 2019. Mileage in the first six months of 2021 rebounded 13% from COVID lows in 2020 but still lags 2019 mileage by nearly 6%. The estimated mileage death rate in 2021 is 1.43 deaths per 100 million vehicle miles traveled, up 3% from 1.39 in 2020 and up 24% from 1.39 in 2019.
wtf are you talking about? everything is a lie. your job if you choose to accept it is to learn how to tell the difference. in ALL lies there is an element of truth making lies valuable. haven't you ever gone through a divorce?
Your point about lies, in my view would driven home more by the question: Haven't you ever stayed married when you should have gotten a divorce, for it is then that the great lie is revealed. I need to stay married for the kids, even if it does turn me into a horrible father.
I haven’t delved to much into it deciphering the numbers. Honestly the numbers are literally useless, to many people died with Covid instead of because Covid, they where strictly ventilating in the beginning which has something like a 9/10 chance of death. They purposely put sick people in nursing homes wiping them completely out. I def get what your are saying though. Both sides have propaganda. Deciphering it is a pain in the ass. I personally think the excess deaths come from the Covid measures. I would look at suicides and overdoses to. All that together could honestly be the increase.
How to lie with statistics:
"The lower death rates in 2020 prove that there was no pandemic! What do we do?"
"The high death rates in 2021 show the vaccines are killing people, what do we do?"
"Fuck it! Tell them the people who died in 2021 actually died in 2020. Tell them its 'Due to lag time in reporting.'"
A lot of Biden voters who never existed have since died.
53.6% of statistics are just made up.
These bastards are trying to rewrite history. WE have all looked at the death rates and compared the numbers. 2020 was no higher than previous years, in fact I remember it being less.
show proof
The death rate for 2020 is a number similar to Biden's vote count. It keeps growing afterwards until we get it where it collaborates the agenda they want to portray.
Do you think they will steal a election but think its out of the realm of possibilities that the would lie about a death rate to make their plandemic look legitimate?
I looked for the numbers you asked for, I thought they would be easy to find. I searched them before and they were readily accessible. It appears they have scrubbed the old data and replaced it with new data. I can look later but I don't have the time right now, I'm at work.
I will go back and search CDC archived data when I get a chance.
Thank you for your reply! I also noticed that they had the 2020 deaths up then took them down several months ago. Why is it that every other year they have posted yearly deaths no problem but they are having a hell of a time posting 2020 deaths.
The climate scam has similar rules. Old temperatures tend to fall many years afterwards. Anything to steepen that curve.
you nailed it. climate science is based on computer models just like covid. It's all fake.
There are lots or parallels when you start to look. Both are "global problems" so they say they need global solutions thus providing a role for the UN (IPCC/WHO). Both make money for the rich: vaccines, renewables. Both have just one side shown in the MSM. Opposing views are suppressed even in the scientific literature. Opponents are demonised. The Pope supports both scams! Governments are fully on board. etc.
I looked through the cdc site where they claim they got the statistics and there is no way that 2020 added up to that 3.4 mil number they blew out their ass. FAKE NEWS!
The origin of the 2020 death rate being lower than previous years was a Johns Hopkins study conducted by a Professor in Economics using Federal Government data. And throughout the pandemic, Johns Hopkins has been cited as best source of information.
Sorry, don’t remember the Professor’s name at the moment. Naturally this made DS heads explode and the revisionist historians went to work immediately. They demanded the student paper which published the study retract it. Then fact checkers started “debunking” the study.
It’s doubtful the available data at the time is archived so it’s difficult to validate the Professor’s conclusions. But on the surface it is logical, the majority of people who died with covid did so due to co-morbidities. Therefore, covid would not necessarily cause excess deaths year over year because most of the people who died with covid were at the point where one additional illness would cause them to pass away.
This is some data from a Japanese study. Might be useful.
https://asploro.com/fewer-annual-deaths-in-japan-with-negative-excess-mortality-for-covid-19/
I guess youll believe anything. Good luck with your scary virus.
That just about accounts for the massive increase in murders, suicides, accidental overdoses, and death due to neglect of medical treatment for other problems because things like cancer screenings and treatments were postponed and cancelled.
Also... you're telling me that despite all that, including the pandemic that's supposedly going around, the US's total death rate per 100k didn't even get past an average year in the 1940s?
What a joke. I'm TOTALLY SURE they aren't fudging those numbers.
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You really believe what the CDC says?
no but if there is a 20% increase in deaths and thats substantial. Do I think these are covid deaths? no i dont i think they are but they are saying they are but i think they are vaccine deaths and murder deaths and suicide deaths.
I agree that lies permeate on both sides. That's why we can't look at the argument from a ideological perspective, but my view everything through the lens of freedom.
Both lies can be dangerous, but I will take a partial truth that is bent toward freedom over a half lie that turns toward slavery every time.
(Not very good example, but hopefully will convey my point)
#1 is partial truth as it may lead to only moderate job growth (Truthful Hyperbole) #2 is half lie because the increase in trade will be mostly all import (Deceptive Lie)
The article claims two things:
I would have no problem believing that 20% more people died in 2020. The important part of the claim is "Did they died of Covid".
It would be a more incredible argument to claim no increase in deaths occurred in 2020, and that would run counter to most of our argument here. After all aren't we the ones that believe a massive depopulation scheme is underfoot. Are we not making claims that hundreds of thousands are being murdered by denial of the most effective prophylaxis and therapeutic off-label drugs.
I don't deny that more people died, and it's no wonder. I dispute the claim that the increases were mostly attributed to the morbidity of the SARS-CoV2 virus.
yeah i think the extra deaths could be attributed to the masks, vaccines and lockdowns
The lockdowns for much of 2020 reduced the number of automobile accidents. If I had to guess (no proof), those deaths were substituted for those who either died directly from renal failure due to remdesivir or drowning to death on ventilators.
Did not think of that angle.
But, but I think there is a solid argument that in the net, lockdowns resulted in an increase in deaths, and not a decrease. Therefore, if this is true, then "less automobile accidents" theory would not hold. (Also see bold text below)
Lockdowns ended more lives than saves:
There was a sharp decline in visits to emergency rooms and an increase in fatal heart attacks because patients didn’t receive prompt treatment. Many fewer people were screened for cancer. Social isolation contributed to excess deaths from dementia and Alzheimer’s.
The number of people killed last year in motor-vehicle accidents in the United States rose to the highest level in more than a decade, even though Americans did significantly less driving than in 2019. It was the steepest annual increase in the fatality rate per mile traveled in nearly a century, apparently due to more substance abuse and more high-speed driving on empty roads
Motor Vehicle Deaths in 2020 Estimated to be Highest in 13 Years, Despite Dramatic Drops in Miles Driven
https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/motor-vehicle/overview/preliminary-estimates/
wtf are you talking about? everything is a lie. your job if you choose to accept it is to learn how to tell the difference. in ALL lies there is an element of truth making lies valuable. haven't you ever gone through a divorce?
Lol!
Your point about lies, in my view would driven home more by the question: Haven't you ever stayed married when you should have gotten a divorce, for it is then that the great lie is revealed. I need to stay married for the kids, even if it does turn me into a horrible father.
good-luck to you
Why do you think I am that person who stayed lol?
My cousin always said: If you want justice, go to Vegas. If you want to gamble, go to divorce court.
I haven’t delved to much into it deciphering the numbers. Honestly the numbers are literally useless, to many people died with Covid instead of because Covid, they where strictly ventilating in the beginning which has something like a 9/10 chance of death. They purposely put sick people in nursing homes wiping them completely out. I def get what your are saying though. Both sides have propaganda. Deciphering it is a pain in the ass. I personally think the excess deaths come from the Covid measures. I would look at suicides and overdoses to. All that together could honestly be the increase.
amen! thank you for your thoughts and input
Those per capita figures rate covid with a 0.1% mortality rate. Now show me the figures for the flu.
😂😂😂😂
WWG1WGA
who is USA facts and how long have they been posting their "data"?