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Why would you not agree with flat earth? Your whole life you've been indoctrinated into BELIEVING in a GLOBE EARTH, but outside of NASA CGI and photoshop images and some blatantly false mathematical equations, there is not a single proof of the GLOBE.
The bible tells you about the firmament and the waters, just as today's flat earthers maintain.
Your entire life your senses and experiences have shown you that the earth is a stationary, non-rotating plane. Occam's Razor my friend. It's beyond obvious!
Like you, and 99.99% of the population, I was once a glober too. Just like all the "conspiracy facts" that have been discussed on GA, or "anti-vaxxers", or pick your topic of interest that the majority believe is the stuff of tin-foil-hats, flat earth is no different. Once you do your own research, you'll be simultaneously astonished and embarrassed that you ever believed the globe lie. It's beyond conclusive. There's exactly ZERO PROOF of the globe.
If you're a pro-vaxxer, give it 10-20 hours of solid research and you'll never get near that useless poison again. As is often said, there are a lot of anti-vaxxers that were once pro-vaxxers, but there are exactly ZERO pro-vaxxers that were once anti-vaxxers.
So you tell me, what's the #1 item/subject that makes you believe you're living on a globe?
I'm sure flat earthers have an explanation but I've been at sea on a big ship and watched a smaller, faster vessel sink below the horizon. As in the mast of the smaller ship got shorter and shorter until in disappeared. Almost like it went over the edge of a curved surface. Kinda interested in what the explanation for that could be.
Limitations of human visual perspective, quite simply. There's a "vanishing point" at roughly 3-5 miles, weather conditions dependent. We simply can't see any further than this when at sea level.
There are probably 1000+ videos you can find now by researchers that have taken their super-zoom Nikon P900/1000 cameras and demonstrated this over and over and over again. Boats, oil rigs, islands, etc. that are well beyond our visual limitations come right into view when zoomed into - and vanish when zoomed out (normal perspective). They've seen things 7, 10, 15, even 17 miles out to sea. And I might add, yes, they see the HULLS of boats as well. And to be clear, due to atmospheric conditions, there is always a limitation to seeing "forever", like trying to see something through 100+ plates of glass. Humidity, fog, evaporation, etc. eventually distort the ability to see things. You can think of this like seeing a mirage, which is atmospheric distortion.
If the heliocentric globe model were true, all of these things should be hidden by roughly 13-70 feet behind the curve.
There are so many videos of this, I'll let you pick the ones you like. Here are the best channels on YT to learn this stuff. Pick and choose as you're inspired:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClWTBNGnjXEZOtEwEp9BGTg/videos
https://www.youtube.com/c/DITRH/videos
https://www.youtube.com/c/jeranism/videos
The guy who runs the first two channels is offering 3 bitcoin for one single proof of the globe model. That's like $180K. Nobody has yet taken him up on it.
I don't know about others here, but if I can speak for myself it's less that I don't agree with the concept, but more that I'm not willing to commit to any model 100%.
I fully believe that we have been lied to about many of the cornerstones of our reality, and I do believe that we are being misled about our planet in a massive way. A flat earth is pretty low on my list of possibilities, but it's still on the list.
It seems foolish to me to lean into any belief 100% with no room for error. I've had to learn to analyze my beliefs based on a spectrum of evidence ranked by quality of said evidence.
In my current reality, with my current understanding of physics and mathematics, my scale is tilting more in favor of a round Earth than a flat earth, maybe 95/5 respectively. I'm still leaving room for the entirety of our matrix to be a construct designed to separate us from the reality of our surroundings, but until that point begins to crystallize, a flat earth doesn't seem like the most likely model.
A hollow earth, on the other hand, is something that intrigues me. I still haven't seen enough evidence to subscribe to that model, but I'm probably closer to a 65/35 current model/hollow earth model vs the 95/5 round earth model/flat earth model.
I'm sure we'll all be appropriately humbled once the verifiable truth is widely known, and the best I can do for now is realize that much of my foundational knowledge has the potential to have been a lie, and begin to reassess my knowledge using the spectrum model I mentioned above. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Good for you, that's a good place to be. For the record, we don't necessarily claim that it's "flat" per se, but rather, that we're DEFINITELY NOT standing on a spinning ball going 1000 MPH, while simultaneously circling around the sun at 66,000 MPH, while simultaneously circling the Milky Way galaxy at 500,000 MPH, while simultaneously rocketing through the universe at 3-4Million MPH following the initial explosion of the Big Bang moment. All of these claims are verifiable ludicrous and utterly impossible.
Take your time and do your research when you feel inspired. You'll find the physics don't work, and within every mathematical equation you think is irrefutable, you'll find an ASSUMPTION has been made about something to "make it work". Like the ASSUMPTION that Venus is roughly the same size as Earth. Our astrophysicists did just this to calculate the size of the sun and our distance form it. But who's to say that Venus isn't the size of a basketball? Nobody has been there, therefore, nobody knows.
And agreed, it's a most humbling experience when you finally realize how badly you've been duped. Both embarrassing and funny simultaneously when you come to realize how UTTERLY RIDICULOUS the globe model really is.
Good luck!
P.S. Add to the above, that "gravity" doesn't exist --- as a "force" that is. The "effect" is obvious and real, but the "cause" has never been identified, even to this day. Physicists literally have ZERO IDEA as to what gravity is. A particle? A field? A wave? Crickets. Why? Because there's no such FORCE known as "gravity". This alone utterly destroys the globe model. Keep in mind, the astrophysicists had to INVENT "dark matter" and "dark energy", comprising 95% of all the "stuff" that makes up the "universe" to keep the globe/gravity lie alive. Gravity is nothing but a theory. Dark energy is nothing but a theory. Dark matter is nothing but a theory. Take away the theories, and the truth becomes self-evident!
You know there are weather satellites that provide live feeds and clearly show the earth has a curve?
You mean hot air balloons? Those "satellites" and the "ISS" that you think are hundreds of miles above earth are all CGI (Computer Generated Images). Go watch one for yourself for a few hours and decide for yourself whether you're seeing something real or not. Continents, oceans, clouds, bodies of water, etc.
Ever wonder why NASA is the biggest buyer of helium in the world? By like a factor of 10,000x more than the next closest buyer. As yourself why NASA needs so much helium?
If the live feed you're looking at is lower in the sky, which it often is, take a step back and compare it to when you've been in an airplane up at 35,000 feet. If the objects you see aren't appreciably smaller/lower than something you've seen for yourself, then you're seeing a view from a hot-air balloon through a fish-eye lens camera which distorts the image and adds the "curve" - just as airplane windows do.
NASA's job, like all the other "government 3/4/5 letter agencies", is to deceive us - beginning to end.
Does flat earth theory have an explanation for the sun rising and setting? Also, if there is an explanation, does it explain why the sun/moon look larger when they are close to the horizon?
Atmospheric lensing from moisture in the air.
Sure. But flat earth proofs are NEVER "theories". That domain is reserved for the globers.
You first have to understand the flat earth model. Think of a giant lake (oceans) with islands in it (continents). All bodies of water must be held in a container, as we all know through basic common sense. Antarctica is the "container" that encircles this lake. It's not a "continent" on the "bottom of the globe". It's a giant ice wall that's "off limits" to us normies, since 1958. We aren't allowed to go there unless escorted by an international governing body. They take tourists to a tiny little outpost south of Chile. Keeps the lie alive.
Above this "firmament" the sun and moon traverse the sky in a circular motion, opposite one another, above the "lake", just as you see every day. The sun transits between the Tropics of Cancer and Capricorn each calendar year. When it's near Capricorn (northern hemisphere), it's warm in the US. When it gets closer to Cancer, it's warm in the southern hemisphere, Australia for example.
The paths that the sun/moon traverse look like the Yin/Yang symbol you've almost certainly seen. What you see every day is the sun moving closer to your location, then moving away from your location. This is exactly as your eyes and senses perceive it. And this is exactly what's happening. You don't perceive you're standing on a rotating ball spinning away from a stationary object.
While nobody knows 100% for sure, we believe both the sun and moon are approximately 3300 miles away from the earth and 32 miles in diameter each, identical in size (hence the perfect eclipses. Once again, just as your eyes see. And neither are balls/globes either. It would be more accurate to call them "lights" or possibly "plasmas", just like the PLANEts (PLANES), which were always called "wandering stars" through antiquity. They're lights too.
The appearance of a larger sun at the horizon is due to atmospheric lensing and refraction. It's a bit more complicated to explain this. But this sort of thing happens at certain times of year, and in certain places, more dramatically than others. This explains why you don't ALWAYS see the larger sun or moon every day of the year. In short, it's a function of our limited visual perspective under certain atmospheric conditions.
Shape of the earth is 100% the last thing any of us should be worried about. Use logic, It's round. But honestly who cares. It's not a topic that even should be a discussion as there are way more relevant issues to discuss.
Like you're more special than you realize, not a random occurrence out of chaos, and at the center of the universe should matter quite a lot to you. This is a fundamental deception the controllers have leveled against all of us.
Flat earth makes no sense to me. There are things that are experienced daily on this earth that cannot be explained in a flat earth model.
For example?
Example. Here is one. Now I want to actually see a definitive explanation for this. This is a loaded question because you wont be able to explain this accurately but I will propose my questions for laughs and fun none the less. As a flat earther that has done that "research", which is you-tube videos and crayon graphs and little write ups demonstrating absolute PROOF. Flat earther come one come all. Describe and explain the mathematical, completely calculated and verifiable process for over 525,000 years and more the premise and existence of spherical and earth bound process related to our "planet" which is PRECESSION. Btw im not giving any more hints other than precession alone destroys any credible idea thought theory or rationale of the ridiculous ideas presented in flat earth "theory", I doubt you flat earthers even understand what precession actually is but benefit of the doubt. LETS hear it! GO. Oh and link a you-tube video or and say watch this or some 2001 graphic website page telling me go read this and is some regurgitated folklore isnt going to cut it. GIVE me the answers I am Mulder and want to believe!
Also in order for this to be explained adequately one must resolve or explain away the accurate ability to measure spacial distance radially and astronomical / cosmological distance that undulate seasonly by simple triangulation and Parallax formulae for precise calcuations.
gather that tribal knowledge, old wives tales, trickled down internet mind blowing proofs and tell me HOW precession is described and explained away in a FLAT EARTH condition of physicality. Give me themzzzz sciences!
Your sanctimonious attitude make you glow.
Precession is easily explained but you clearly wish to bask in your ignorance.
Enjoy your indoctrination!
I have spoken to my brother in China before, as well as coworkers in Japan, on video chat. While it is night time where I am, it's light out for them. How is this explained by the flat earth?
Imagine a perspective above the sun looking down on the flat earth. You can look at the UN official seal for a map of the flat earth. The sun's path transits in a circular motion over that map. When the sun is over one half of the map, it's light, and the opposite side is dark.
The sun is not 800,000 miles in diameter and 93 million miles away. The sun is local, estimated to be about 3300 miles away and 32 miles in diameter, which is much smaller than the flat earth plane which is tens of thousands of miles across. Your own eyes tell you this too.
The sailors that used sextants in the past all calculated distances exactly like this, judging the sun to be local and between 3000 - 3500 miles away. Their bearings were always remarkably spot on because they had not been propagandized into the globe lie. The use of a sextant is still a perfectly valid way to circumnavigate the oceans and remains a back-up option if GPS/electronics fail.
Adding to this, you can't use a sextant without making your angular calculations with a flat plane. They would never work on a globe.