Is there any way to give a patient a covid vaccine without them knowing or wanting it? Is this possible? Are they strictly accounted for? Are there specific injection sites? Is there even a way to find out if you were? The person I am asking about was sick and pretty out of it, received multiple injections over the course of a few days, insists one was different than the rest and is scared she was vaccinated by a nurse that kept pushing it. (Despite the fact that she was in the hospital WITH covid and even the doctors said she couldnt get vaxxed until a few months after recovery, if she wanted to.) I'm sure there are hundreds or crazies who would want to vaccinate people against their will but actually having the means is another story. I hope. Any insight?
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The nurse probably wouldn’t even need to sneak around. Betting they have the full support of management to do it. 🤡 🌎
No insight to offer. Praying the answer is no. But knowing what I know now I wouldn't trust any nurse near me with a needle. If the world were sane, the answer "should" be on her chart. I would start there.
Exactly! I'm not going near a hospital for ANYTHING! God Bless Fren1
absolutely ... if necessary, see if a walk in clinic is an option
I would call my insurance and ask if they were billed for a covid vaccine.
As the other anon said, to the best of my knowledge, they will first attempt to bill the patient's insurance (if there is any), then they will bill government money pools that pay for the vaccines.
The bill still goes to the insurance company. It's coded for and has specific CPT charge codes for each variant.
If you read the print under “free vax” it usually says something like “with qualifying insurance eligibility” I work in insurance - they will bill the code even if they don’t see much for it.
Any disreputable nurse could do so. We are always supposed to ask, receive verbal consent and provide a fact sheet called a VIS regarding a particular immunization. If someone is getting multiple injections, it could be done. It is illegal, if caught and you could lose your license. If someone is getting pain injections, say for kidney stones, they could be “out of it” and unknowingly consent.
We don’t have vaccines on the unit, they come up from pharmacy and since everything is about money, pharmacy can’t dispatch anything without a scan seal to charge the patient. Vaccines aren’t free, they have government funding or through your insurance. It would be on your itemized list from hospitalization. If caught giving a secret vaccine you can kiss your nursing license goodbye and I’ve never heard of a nurse caring that much if you are vaccinated or not, not to risk their job and whole life.
Pfizer is only good for 6 hours after being opened and has a weird dilution (compared to other vaccines I have given which is 1 dose 1 vial). I’m not sure about Modena. I refused to give it to anyone in my little ER when I was there so I didn’t get too deep into the details. If they were admitted to the floor, they may not want to risk opening them up and not using it all, but some people are freaking nuts with this covid shit. I would request all the records and look through the medications and the notes. I would hope that they didn’t get the jab. If they were pretty out of it and acting wild they could have gotten sedatives or meds like haldol which can make you feel funny/ cause weird effects if you get too much of it. I would rule that out and then go from there.
There have been several reports of people in ICU cant give consent and theyre jabbed anyway. Several vids of people in ER held down by Security and jabbed. A mom had just delivered a baby and they jabbed it with Covid shot even though she and hubby insisted on no shots before she even delivered. Then we hear about the 'mistakes' of giving this vax when people came for regular flu shot. Then too wrong dosages given. I have never once heard someone ask if you CAN get the shot.
I was a Patient a couple of years ago in Mayo Clinic level Hospital during my stay on the the first day a nurse and not my attending nurse, at that time, walked into the room stuck the syringe in my IV line injection port and injected as she was pushing the plunger she said we noticed that I had not received a Flu shot and that she just took care of it...she never stopped to explain what she was doing before doing so only as she injected me. I expect how it could happen for many.
Guess what....it happened...your belief that it shouldn't be done this way may be valid but I am telling everyone it happened and you do not have to like it anymore then I did. Ain't that a pisser.
A lot of current nurses are opinionated bitter thots or flaming homos... not listening to any of them.
Every single shot, medication, and service rendered is to be recorded and billed for.
If your friend is concerned, then she needs to firstly request that nurse no longer service her. Secondly, she needs to specifically request a record of all the shots she has received so far, and be specific about the one received from the nurse in question. Lastly, she needs to ask before every single shot what exactly it is and why it is being administered.
EDIT: regarding injection locations, addicts will inject between their toes because other locations are too visible.
I stopped going to my doctor once I found out he's a jab Nazi. I would go in every 2 weeks for my testosterone shot but now I don't trust him, so I'm doing it myself. If it was a year ago giving you a shot without all your knowledge would send them to jail today thay might get a gold star
My wife is a nurse. They can* just like they can* give you saline without you asking them.
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as for after the fact, that's almost impossible. Unless she documented it. You can ask for all of your medical documents as to what she gave you.
Amen
Never saw or heard about secret vaccines. We must scan each med to their MARs and so anything coming up from pharmacy has a scan seal on it and is tied to their medical records.
these insane maniacs have and will try and inject u while you are out especially if you resist vaccines because you personally offend their power trip. I wouldnt get operated on unless there was a video camera running the whole time
Does a bear shit in the woods?
Does a bear even render if you’re not there to see it?
I’d say it’s possible but unlikely. Regardless of how hard the medical community pushes the vaxx, they’re not going around secretly jabbing people. The only way that would occur is in a one-off rouge nurse situation. Essentially it would be an isolated incident, not a widespread strategy.
Luckily, a rouge nurse is much more likely to leave you with more color in your cheeks than an unwanted injection.
It’s where you live, they DEFINITELY do it where I used to live...