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catsfive [S] 63 points ago +64 / -1

The Israeli deep state is real

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VaccinesCauseSIDS 70 points ago +70 / -0

Israel itself is a product of the deep state

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rooftoptendie 24 points ago +24 / -0

can anyone redpill me on this? any good sauces out there about the creation of israel and it's ties to derp state?

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FrenchQ 49 points ago +51 / -2

recommended reading: "Who is Edom-Esau": https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZSW5FE1R0KpwnVTByf2csbnuPst19oMD/view

Esau was the first born of Isaac, and thus was heir to the birthright derived from the direct racial lineage of Adam to Noah to Abraham. Just as "Esau despised his birthright" (Gen. 25:34) when he sold it to Jacob, he also despised his race by marrying strange women outside of his race. Esau married the daughters of Canaan or Canaanites (Gen. 28:6; 36:2), the daughters of Heth or Hittites (Gen. 26:34; 27:46; 36:2), the daughters of Ishmael (Gen. 28:9; 36:3), the daughters of the Hivites (Gen. 36:2), and had intermarried with the Horites (Gen. 36:19-21). These interracial marriages "were a grief of mind to Isaac and Rebekah," Esau's parents (Gen. 26:35). The descendants of Esau from these marriages became known as "Edomites" or as "Edom" (Gen. 36:1, 9).

"The Edomites were driven from Petra westward by the Nabatheans in 312 B.C., and before the middle of the second century B.C. they were occupying, not only southern Judah, but also Hebron and the country to its north as far as Bethzur (1 Mac. 4:29; 5:65)

Julius Caesar made Antipater, an Edomite, Procurator of Judea in 47 B.C. When Antipater was killed four years later his son Herod gained power but was rejected by the Judahites. Herod shrewdly gained the support of Rome. With a Roman army at his heels be returned to Palestine, and after a six-month siege he captured Jerusalem, and became king of Judea in 37 B.C.

TL;DR Jews are descendants of Esau, the Edom, not to be confused with the Judahites who are Israelites. John Hyrcanus forcibly converted the Edomites to Talmudism/Judaism. They are the "children of the serpent" and "synagogue of Satan" Jesus spoke of.

And before someone asserts Jesus was an edomite: https://christogenea.org/podcasts/exactly-why-jesus-christ-not-jew

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Fastfactsmacks 18 points ago +19 / -1

I knew parts of this story from scripture! Wow you filled in a lot! I’d love to talk to you!

I believe Herod was the shadow and type of Pope!

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Quasar 4 points ago +7 / -3

this is a flat out lie. The son of Abraham was Isaac. The son of Isaac was Jacob, the son of Jacob was Judah the father of the Jews. King David was of the tribe of Judah. Jesus Christ comes from the line of David. There are 12 princes that come from Ishmael, the muslim nations make up most of these peoples today.

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RiverWolf 4 points ago +4 / -0

The reference you cite at the end is false information -- of course Jesus was "a jew" -- he said so himself.

E.g., John 4: 21-23 “Believe me, woman, the time is coming when you Samaritans will worship the Father neither here at this mountain nor there in Jerusalem. You worship guessing in the dark; we Jews worship in the clear light of day. God’s way of salvation is made available through the Jews.

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2020Ray 1 point ago +1 / -0

Very good summary. Thanks for the good work.

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Oh_Well_ian 9 points ago +13 / -4

start at Hitler being a Rothschild sock puppet

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spanglevision 6 points ago +7 / -1

I just watched Europa The Last Battle Part 2 yesterday and it addresses that very question.

edit: at least it touches on the creation of Israel (not so much on its ties to the derp state)

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Murkfall 5 points ago +5 / -0

I would suggest New World Order: Communism By The Backdoor and The Secret Masonicn Victory of WW2 if you want to get into stuff specifically on the cabal and deepstate. Europa the Last Battle more focuses on what really happened during WW2, the lies made about it, although it has stuff slipped in here and there about communism and the deepstate.

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Burritoes4everyone 4 points ago +4 / -0

Don’t know much about the connections to deep state upon its founding but It would seem the establishment (mainly British) was quite resistant to this movement when it began. Anyway, a little bit ago I read a book called “the man eaters of tsavo.” Which the movie ghost in the darkness is somewhat based upon. Col patterson was a Christian Irishman Who sympathized with some of his peers who were Jewish refugees. He ended up playing a key role in the training of the Zion mule brigade, which was made up of Jewish refugees who wanted to take back their homeland from the Ottoman Empire. Much like the Irish who came to fight in our civil war in order to gain military experience and return to Ireland and regain their country from the British, the Zion mule brigade fought with the British to gain experience to fight off the Turkish empire. The men involved seemed genuine and don’t seem too deep state to me but you never know.

https://zionism-israel.com/dic/Zion_mule_corps.htm

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Shalomtoyou 1 point ago +1 / -0

Patterson... I remember that name. William Goldman, famous screenwriter (Misery, Princess Bride, Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid among others) wrote a movie called the Ghost and the Darkness, about two man eating lions that interrupted the construction of the British railroad across Africa, and Patterson was instrumental in shooting these two lions.

The legend was good but the movie is mediocre at best due to shenanigans between the actors and the movie studios. (Kevin Costner accepted the row, but the studio wanted to ask Tom Cruise. Tom Cruise said no, Costner found this insulting and quit, Michael Douglas got involved and he was okay as a producer but decided to act as well and wrecked things.... big mess.).

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Joys1Daughter 6 points ago +6 / -0

Came here to say the same! u/VaccinesCauseSIDS

Rothschild created.

Well posted 👑Sircats!

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Shalomtoyou 23 points ago +23 / -0

I think every country has its deep state. Very few exceptions.

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Fastfactsmacks 2 points ago +3 / -1

Actually God of all creation said satan was god of this world!

World and earth two different things! World is the inhabitants of earth! God created the earth it belongs to him!!!

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Shalomtoyou 5 points ago +5 / -0

There was a certain question an atheist once posed to me. I gave him an answer. Then checked my answer years later with a Chabbadic Rabbi and a Conservative Rabbi. My question and the answers don't matter much, but the Chabbadic Rabbi, as part of his answer, said that this part of the creation is filled with base, low energy. Part of our purpose in life is to elevate and sanctify that energy into something higher, something holy. As one example, that's why you take an everyday event, like eating. Even animals eat. But when you say a Bracha, or a prayer, a thanks to G-d before you eat, you turn the base act of eating into something holy, something of high, spiritual energy. And it's through many little acts of this kind that we eventually will elevate the lower energies of this world.

So if the Satan or darkness seems to have its way in the world, my guess is that the world is mired in low energies, and we have to individually elevate it a little bit to raise the overall energy to something positive.

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Mister_Winston 3 points ago +3 / -0

Your Chabbadic Rabbi is wise. He calls it energy, but there could be other concepts used, like "awareness." It reminds me of a verse from Judges 7:6 about Gideon bringing men down to the water to drink. "Separate those who lap the water with their tongues like a dog from those who kneel to drink.” The point was to separate those who elevated themselves as beings who are above animals. It's more than just civility, it's like a spiritual status.

It also reminds me of how Dennis Prager always mentions the need for man to overcome his own nature. Or why we idealize marriage over casual sex, or due process over revenge. It even pertains to common manners. The atheists would call it etiquette and tradition, but those who believe in God know it's much more than that even if they don't know how to explain it.

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january20 2 points ago +2 / -0

That's new-age Kabballah teaching. it also leads to a "blame the victim" mentality.

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HughJohnson 1 point ago +1 / -0

All countries, they are constantly showing us with their handshakes and other symbols. The Anti-Masonic Party was the first third-party in the US and I believe they did quite well while it existed. The story of how it was formed is also interesting (basically the disapperance of a Mason whistleblower). A modern version would be extremely popular.

John F. Kennedy Speec, April 27, 1961 (06:26) I refer first to the need for far greater public information, and second, to the need for far greater official secrecy. The very word secrecy is repugnant in a free and open society, and we are as a people, inherently and historically, opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths, and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweigh the dangers which are cited to justify it. Even today there is little value in ensuring the survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it. And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment. That I do not intend to permit to the extent that it’s in my control, and no official of my administration, whether his rank is high or low, civilian or military, should interpret my words here tonight as an excuse to censor the news, to stifle dissent, to cover up our mistakes, or to withhold from the press and the public the facts they deserve to know.

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Mister_Winston -3 points ago +9 / -12

The Joo-haters on this board want everyone to believe Israel is not a legitimate state. It is, they're just not distinguishing between the people and their corrupt government.

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Shalomtoyou 6 points ago +6 / -0

When I saw the left side with the Arabs against Israel, about 20 years ago, that was my red pill moment.

I love Israel and all that. Got a lot of my Jewish heritage tied in to the place.

But that doesn't mean I'm overlooking them forging to the front of the line with vaccine mandates. That is sick, sick, sick. I wonder if they had to first get rid of Bibi the way they did with Trump before they could push this through. Bennett was supposedly very religious and signed off on this. Really depressing. VERY depressing.

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Mister_Winston 4 points ago +4 / -0

Thanks for sharing. People on this board need to hear this perspective. It's way more common than they realize. I've met way more patriotic and freedom loving Jews than not.

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TheMoreYouKnowOkay 3 points ago +3 / -0

Netanyahu started with the mandate stuff before Bennett got involved.

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SeeAreJay 3 points ago +5 / -2

Excuse me. Senior Waffen-ᛋᛋ here, what exactly is the difference?

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Mister_Winston 5 points ago +5 / -0

Same difference as between US citizens and our corrupt government. It would be obvious if you actually listened to Jews who hate the left and elitists as much as the rest of us do.

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Mister_Winston 3 points ago +3 / -0

Apples and oranges. We have a sovereign state with borders and a founding document. That never existed for the region of Palestine, who had no problem with Islamic nations occupying the region.

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Creepy_Ginger 0 points ago +1 / -1

Wahhh, that's racis--- I mean anti Sementic.

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SirRupert 7 points ago +7 / -0

If we totaled how.much our.lives had to be subjected to Israel whining.

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inspir3dgenius 2 points ago +2 / -0

Just had the thought - if the reason wasn't mentioned a single time, could it have been mentioned multiple times?

We've been fooled before by multiple meanings. Just exploring possibilities.