You even START going down the flat earth road with me, I don't care how long I've known you : We. Are. Done. I just can't believe anyone is really THAT fucking stupid.
"gRavItY iS fAkE"
I actually removed ALL my Deftones music last summer when I read an interview with guitarist Stephan Carpenter. I've loved and supported Deftones since they arrived on the scene when I was in high school. But Mr. Carpenter is 1000000% , full tilt, flat earther.
Can't support them anymore. Chino, different story, still support him and his solo / collaboration stuff.
Here's the thing, bub. The only way to prove the earth is flat is via you tube video.
These people don't understand things like scale and geometry, it's pretty simple really. These folks believe a zoom lens on a camera brings the object closer to them in the view finder - I can look past the horizon - = 100% wrong. The zoom lens, actually, simulates YOU moving forward toward the subject.
Explain the tides, eclipses, gravity ( oh yea.. doesn't exist ), the seasons - they can't.
Real, real simple stuff like that they ignore because "my you tube guy said...."
Do ANY of those people 'educating me' on flat earth have a degree in ANY science field?
Didn't think so.
It's funny you prove my point exactly. I specifically stated " you can only prove the earth is flat via you tube video" And what do you come back with?
"mY yOutUBe gUY sAiD....." go back to eating tide pods
You sound exactly like know it all leftists talking down to anyone with views outside the mainstream. A bit ironic that you’d fall into the same line of condescension while being on this forum. Not that I believe in flat earth but I’ve gotten plenty of eye rolls from normies for believing in things like the cabal, crisis actors, false flags like 9-11 and now the vaccines being mass genocide. Your condescension towards flat earthers is no different, it’s the same toxic mindset.
Actually, the dumbest people on the plane are brainwashed individuals like yourself that have no grasp of science other than as a religion, worthy of fervent defense and blind devotion.
Did you know there's no experiment that can pass through the scientific method that can prove either spherocity or motion of the earth?
Even if there were, science is only "settled" until more information comes along that disproves the previous theory.
I'll leave you a quote. Maybe you'll be more willing to have a better understanding of how science works from a cosmologist.
"People need to be aware that there is a range of models that could explain the observations… For instance, I can construct you a spherically symmetrical universe with Earth at its center, and you cannot disprove it based on observations… You can only exclude it on philosophical grounds… What I want to bring into the open is the fact that we are using philosophical criteria in choosing our models. A lot of cosmology tries to hide that."
George Ellis (cosmologist), “Profile: George F. R. Ellis,” Scientific American, October 1995, Vol. 273, No.4, p. 55
Not religious for your first wrong answer. And you seem to think I believe in flat earth? Wrong again, not sure where you get the " no grasp of science", you obviously didn't read what I wrote.
Eclipses, the tides, the seasons - explain without science then?
Take a 10 gallon bucket. Hook it up to a drill. Turn drill on so it stays on and spins the bucket. After a few minutes throw some balls of different density ( size doesn't matter ) into the bucket.
After a few minutes what happens?
Read my below comments. "No grasp of science" lol The go to response for folks who actually have no grasp of science.
You're a complete religious zealot for your version of "science", obviously.
You mock, science questions.
You act like it is settled, real science is never settled.
You're invested in your belief system and your faith in your heigh preists that tell you what to think when they are practicing, at best, philosophy, not science.
Notice where I said "eclipses, the tides, the seasons" and asked to explain WITHOUT science how they exist? I'm asking for a "scientific explanation" of those examples from a flat earth point of view.
Show me how your flat earth belief explains an eclipse.
Show me how your flat earth belief explains the tidal system.
Show me how your flat earth belief explains seasons
Show me how your flat earth belief explains meteors
Show me how your flat earth belief explains how gravity is fake
All of those already don't work on the globe model.
Lol
I'd love to walk you through it, but over the last 7 years I've met plenty of cocky time wasters like yourself.
Join up on our discord, discord.gg/flatearth (24k members)
We'll be happy to walk you through it. Judging by these comments though, it'll probably take a while to break you out of your dunning Kruger state.
What is the premise we're supposed to be taking from this photo, OP? It obviously represents something, but in all my research on this subject have never come across before.
You mentioned there isn't a map that works for a flat earth. The Azimithal Equidistant map works very well, especially when one reads the historical journals of ships traveling at the far outer reaches of the oceans. The UN logo is an example of this map. I think they know something about this...
Until someone does a better job of explaining why math supports a flat disk, and refutes the ball model; until someone can explain why ALL of nasa's images are CGI; until someone can explain why liquids will ALWAYS find level (cannot happen on a ball); and until someone can explain Admiral Byrd/Operation Dominic/Operation Fishbowl, I say the subject is open for discussion.
It's not enough to say "Flat Earthers are soooo dumb (snicker snicker)". That's an unserious cheap shot, especially when those throwing the cheap shot don't have a better explanation. "That can't possibly be true" doesn't cut it. We question EVERYTHING here. All you've done is make an assertion that has no sauce.
I am keeping an open mind, given that we've been lied to about just about everything. All those CGI "space" images, the Blue Marble that never changes. Makes me go hmm.
pick up a telescope. Yea, NASA 100% doctors their images.
www.cloudynights.com
Scroll down to imaging area. See REAL space images from regular folks like you and me. I personally own 3 telescopes, been into astronomy since I was a child. ALMOST changed my major to astronomical physics in fact.
There are NO satellites orbiting earth that can take an actual full picture of the full planet - they're way too close. They could retask the SOHO satellites if they really wanted to, but that's a lot of work.
Hubble, too close as well. Would be like trying to read your watch with a pair of binoculars.
Thank you for that! I'd rather trust Genesis than anything NASA puts out.
I was so angry when I realised all the amazing pictures of planets and nebulas in pricey publications like Scientific American were fake. Then I questioned the content, most of it is globalist propaganda.
Yes, Disney, I mean NASA = 100 % bullshit. I will gladly tell you that yes, the ISS is up there. You can track it and watch it pass over your house. I've followed it many times through my scopes.
That's where reality ends.
Nothing they show us from the ISS is real. Those people are on an airplane, and you can clearly see the suspension wires in many, many clips.
I'd bet a trillion that what they're actually doing up there is nowhere near what they tell us they're doing.
I've seen some clips, they are hysterical. Wires being pulled to bring a guy down and hair sprayed to form maringue like peaks. I think I saw The ISS shoot past in the evening sky once, definitely not a plane. Wonder whether there are any people up there tbh.
As for the moon landing, hm. Saw the space capsule at the Science Mus in London, didn't buy it: thin tin foil people roast turkeys in. Then the post trip interview - they were so stressed they all looked as though they were about to throw up. Patrick Moore's questions received very evasive short replies. Total BS.
It's funny you mention the post trip interview, because I always, always implore folks to really watch that, and pay extra attention to Armstrong.
He's fiddling the whole time, not answering or deferring every question to one of the others,but it's the general look on his face that really does it for me. Looks like a man who KNOWS he's lying, but doesn't want to. As in.... he DIDN'T know, until he did if you follow.
I have a detailed theory on just this aspect as to why Armstrong is the way he is. The fact that after that initial media rush, Armstrong basically vanished from the public eye for something like 40 years is very suspicious, and alludes to someone who kept himself out of view for a reason.
I believe the rest of the Apollo astronauts, truly believe they did the Moon missions. I think Neil found out, by accident, that he was involved in the one of the biggest hoaxes pulled on society.
Operation fishbowl, Operation starfish...any many many others.
Dumbest people on the planet : flat earthers.
You even START going down the flat earth road with me, I don't care how long I've known you : We. Are. Done. I just can't believe anyone is really THAT fucking stupid.
"gRavItY iS fAkE"
I actually removed ALL my Deftones music last summer when I read an interview with guitarist Stephan Carpenter. I've loved and supported Deftones since they arrived on the scene when I was in high school. But Mr. Carpenter is 1000000% , full tilt, flat earther.
Can't support them anymore. Chino, different story, still support him and his solo / collaboration stuff.
You sound like a lefty nut job...
"ANYONE WHO LIKES TRUMP I LITERALLY HATE AND DON"T WANT TO EVER TALK TO!! BLAH BLAH BLAH" - Lefty nut job
Here's the thing, bub. The only way to prove the earth is flat is via you tube video.
These people don't understand things like scale and geometry, it's pretty simple really. These folks believe a zoom lens on a camera brings the object closer to them in the view finder - I can look past the horizon - = 100% wrong. The zoom lens, actually, simulates YOU moving forward toward the subject.
Explain the tides, eclipses, gravity ( oh yea.. doesn't exist ), the seasons - they can't. Real, real simple stuff like that they ignore because "my you tube guy said...."
You obviously have never watched any of those YouTube videos, because everything you've said is laughably false and strawman.
There's answers to all of those things, for someone intellectually honest enough to listen.
Hey those videos you recommend.
Do ANY of those people 'educating me' on flat earth have a degree in ANY science field?
Didn't think so.
It's funny you prove my point exactly. I specifically stated " you can only prove the earth is flat via you tube video" And what do you come back with?
"mY yOutUBe gUY sAiD....." go back to eating tide pods
So you're a "trust the science" and "trust the government" guy? That's fine, but it is a belief system you're trusting in. Not facts.
Now go get your vaxx like a good boy.
You not know how to read? Where the fuck did you ever get "trust the gov't" from me? LOL Oh man... made my day, thanks.
And uh.. you can't trust science because it always changes with new data / new inquiries. That's the point of science, always question.
Haha, are you my doppelganger
You sound exactly like know it all leftists talking down to anyone with views outside the mainstream. A bit ironic that you’d fall into the same line of condescension while being on this forum. Not that I believe in flat earth but I’ve gotten plenty of eye rolls from normies for believing in things like the cabal, crisis actors, false flags like 9-11 and now the vaccines being mass genocide. Your condescension towards flat earthers is no different, it’s the same toxic mindset.
Flat earths are just people that "trust the science". I honestly think it was a joke that got taken seriously.
👌racist boomer.
Oh, wait, the OK sign was a joke also? Weird.
Actually, the dumbest people on the plane are brainwashed individuals like yourself that have no grasp of science other than as a religion, worthy of fervent defense and blind devotion.
Did you know there's no experiment that can pass through the scientific method that can prove either spherocity or motion of the earth?
Even if there were, science is only "settled" until more information comes along that disproves the previous theory.
I'll leave you a quote. Maybe you'll be more willing to have a better understanding of how science works from a cosmologist.
"People need to be aware that there is a range of models that could explain the observations… For instance, I can construct you a spherically symmetrical universe with Earth at its center, and you cannot disprove it based on observations… You can only exclude it on philosophical grounds… What I want to bring into the open is the fact that we are using philosophical criteria in choosing our models. A lot of cosmology tries to hide that."
George Ellis (cosmologist), “Profile: George F. R. Ellis,” Scientific American, October 1995, Vol. 273, No.4, p. 55
Not religious for your first wrong answer. And you seem to think I believe in flat earth? Wrong again, not sure where you get the " no grasp of science", you obviously didn't read what I wrote.
Eclipses, the tides, the seasons - explain without science then?
Take a 10 gallon bucket. Hook it up to a drill. Turn drill on so it stays on and spins the bucket. After a few minutes throw some balls of different density ( size doesn't matter ) into the bucket.
After a few minutes what happens?
Read my below comments. "No grasp of science" lol The go to response for folks who actually have no grasp of science.
You're a complete religious zealot for your version of "science", obviously.
You mock, science questions. You act like it is settled, real science is never settled. You're invested in your belief system and your faith in your heigh preists that tell you what to think when they are practicing, at best, philosophy, not science.
You too? Not know how to read?
Notice where I said "eclipses, the tides, the seasons" and asked to explain WITHOUT science how they exist? I'm asking for a "scientific explanation" of those examples from a flat earth point of view.
Understand now?
All of those already don't work on the globe model. Lol I'd love to walk you through it, but over the last 7 years I've met plenty of cocky time wasters like yourself. Join up on our discord, discord.gg/flatearth (24k members) We'll be happy to walk you through it. Judging by these comments though, it'll probably take a while to break you out of your dunning Kruger state.
What is the premise we're supposed to be taking from this photo, OP? It obviously represents something, but in all my research on this subject have never come across before.
You mentioned there isn't a map that works for a flat earth. The Azimithal Equidistant map works very well, especially when one reads the historical journals of ships traveling at the far outer reaches of the oceans. The UN logo is an example of this map. I think they know something about this...
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Flat+earth+map&t=brave&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fimages.bonanzastatic.com%2Fafu%2Fimages%2F6ec0%2F2bcc%2F48af_5092160800
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=UN+logo&t=brave&iax=images&ia=images&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fpngimg.com%2Fuploads%2Fun%2
Until someone does a better job of explaining why math supports a flat disk, and refutes the ball model; until someone can explain why ALL of nasa's images are CGI; until someone can explain why liquids will ALWAYS find level (cannot happen on a ball); and until someone can explain Admiral Byrd/Operation Dominic/Operation Fishbowl, I say the subject is open for discussion.
It's not enough to say "Flat Earthers are soooo dumb (snicker snicker)". That's an unserious cheap shot, especially when those throwing the cheap shot don't have a better explanation. "That can't possibly be true" doesn't cut it. We question EVERYTHING here. All you've done is make an assertion that has no sauce.
I like the second hairstyle. Wish my hair stood like that.
We'd get WAY more girls
It's hard to have a lunar eclipse with a flat earth:
https://i1.wp.com/ascienceenthusiast.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Flat-Earth-Eclipse-600x600.jpg?ssl=1
UN logo?
That stretches Australia to the size of Russia and makes the southern pacific about 10000 miles wide.
It is basically impossible to project a sphere on a flat surface… which is why the flat earth crowd can’t come up with a functional map.
I am keeping an open mind, given that we've been lied to about just about everything. All those CGI "space" images, the Blue Marble that never changes. Makes me go hmm.
pick up a telescope. Yea, NASA 100% doctors their images.
www.cloudynights.com
Scroll down to imaging area. See REAL space images from regular folks like you and me. I personally own 3 telescopes, been into astronomy since I was a child. ALMOST changed my major to astronomical physics in fact.
There are NO satellites orbiting earth that can take an actual full picture of the full planet - they're way too close. They could retask the SOHO satellites if they really wanted to, but that's a lot of work.
Hubble, too close as well. Would be like trying to read your watch with a pair of binoculars.
Thank you for that! I'd rather trust Genesis than anything NASA puts out.
I was so angry when I realised all the amazing pictures of planets and nebulas in pricey publications like Scientific American were fake. Then I questioned the content, most of it is globalist propaganda.
Yes, Disney, I mean NASA = 100 % bullshit. I will gladly tell you that yes, the ISS is up there. You can track it and watch it pass over your house. I've followed it many times through my scopes.
That's where reality ends.
Nothing they show us from the ISS is real. Those people are on an airplane, and you can clearly see the suspension wires in many, many clips.
I'd bet a trillion that what they're actually doing up there is nowhere near what they tell us they're doing.
I've seen some clips, they are hysterical. Wires being pulled to bring a guy down and hair sprayed to form maringue like peaks. I think I saw The ISS shoot past in the evening sky once, definitely not a plane. Wonder whether there are any people up there tbh.
As for the moon landing, hm. Saw the space capsule at the Science Mus in London, didn't buy it: thin tin foil people roast turkeys in. Then the post trip interview - they were so stressed they all looked as though they were about to throw up. Patrick Moore's questions received very evasive short replies. Total BS.
It's funny you mention the post trip interview, because I always, always implore folks to really watch that, and pay extra attention to Armstrong.
He's fiddling the whole time, not answering or deferring every question to one of the others,but it's the general look on his face that really does it for me. Looks like a man who KNOWS he's lying, but doesn't want to. As in.... he DIDN'T know, until he did if you follow.
I have a detailed theory on just this aspect as to why Armstrong is the way he is. The fact that after that initial media rush, Armstrong basically vanished from the public eye for something like 40 years is very suspicious, and alludes to someone who kept himself out of view for a reason.
I believe the rest of the Apollo astronauts, truly believe they did the Moon missions. I think Neil found out, by accident, that he was involved in the one of the biggest hoaxes pulled on society.
Um
Not one with a SCALE that works, no
You're looking at a flat object with round eyes.
Sure, this is on topic for this meme https://youtu.be/_X-weMibYeY
Neil Armstrong is my hero! fucking dolts.