That's not even close to what I'm saying. Wow. Some of you just lash out so quickly. All drugs have side effects. It probably is hard on the kidneys. You shouldnt be using it all the time. The horse paste, who knows what other inactive ingredients are in it.
Believe me, a thoughbred horse is more valuable to deep state assholes than people are so they’re’s probably nothing harmful in the horse meds. However, I’d be willing to bet they wouldn’t give the rona vaxx to animals. Too many harmful side effects!
Horse organs are larger and probably stronger and more resistant than ours. Drugs can be hard on our kidneys. I know ivermectin works, it just needs to be taken carefully when needed.
I read on here ppl eating paste all the time. Like it's a vitamin. That's why I posted this. I guess I came off as an ivermectin hater. Lol. I have 7 tubes myself and tabs.
My guess is the “kidney damage” scare tactic is BS. The SDS claims the LD50 is 10 mg/Kg body weight. That means you’d have to ingest 900 mg for a 198 lb man! That’s 1.98 lbs of the stuff at once! How many people do you know would consume 1.98 lbs of horse paste in one sitting?
I doubt Ivermectin has a cumulative affect over time. My guess is that the drug is metabolized in your body and cleared from your system after a certain period of time.
that paste can hurt your organs. I'm not talking about accumulation. I'm talking about being hard on your organs. Just like drinking alcohol. Drugs can damage your organs.
Hah.
Have you ever read an MSDS sheet for chemicals?
I've read thousands of them.
Basically, an MSDS sheet can make window cleaner or car wax sound deadly. Of course car wax is harmful if you get it in your eye, or if you snort it into your lungs.
You can't be alarmed at everything you see on an MSDS. Do you know what the MSDS says for water? In case you get water in your eye, flush with plenty of water.
I'm fortunate to being able to buy the human version in pills. Me and my wife are taking it twice a month since march 2020. I don't know if I would risk taking the horse paste, I would rather look for something else. But hey, we are lucky to buy it in any pharmacy at very low prices, no restrictions.
I'm not joking when I say there are probably a lot of people here who would be interested in buying it from you if you wanted to purchase it for them. You could charge a finders fee and they would still be very happy to pay you for the trouble.
I understand, it's kind of obvious, there is a big market in the US and the gov is making impossible to buy. You guys should do a class action lawsuit to liberate it over there. Its available in many countries in large quantities. I don't think me sending it to the US would make it to the people in need.
Lol, I meant the people here, on this board. But I understand your reluctance. And that's a good idea, a class action lawsuit. I may bring that idea to attorney Thomas Renz. Thanks!
I was doing some math about it... one single dose (4 pills of 6mg each) costs here 2.80 US$ you need 2 of them per month. I usually buy 20 doses at the time = 56 US$ this lasts 10 Months per person. I have no Idea of the price of the mailing, but lets say its 2 times that (I'm in Brazil) See why I'm reluctant? It amounts to quite a bill, and who would take that risk? Not a Millionaire here! Yet!
Durvet doesn't list the inactive ingredients, but another brand called agri-mectin does. The inactive ingredients are:
Corn Oil, Polysorbate 80, Apple Flavor, Aerosil
I looked into it a while back and I read somewhere that the ingredients are pretty much standard industry wide, but I have no evidence for this. I think the "white paste" version uses different ingredients like titanium dioxide and propylene glycol. Probably not the healthiest stuff in the world, but people seem to do fine on it, at least in the short term. If someone has knowledge about these ingredients, perhaps they can chime in.
People with high-dollar horses, or even those with backyard horses, regularly give this to horses for years, and they don't want their horses dropping dead or becoming sterile any more than you want those effects for yourself. This sounds rather like the standard denial of liability that lawyers require.
Lower values, still some toxicity and reproductive health concern...fits with the Horse paste SDS though, as that clearly shows half of it's 'toxicity' is from Proprietary Ingredients 1-3 (overall acute tox.=4, ivermectin ingredient=2 on that sheet).
[edit: Search result/link might have baited and switched me. This could be a general SDS...can't seem to find where FisherSci manufactures a pill, even looking for subsidiaries is coming up dry.]
What prompted me to look into this was a vet. They said if you take it enough it will damage your kidneys bad. Is it the ivermectin in the paste that does the damage or is it the inactive ingredients? I cant find a list of inactive ingredients. I've taken it 5 times.
I wouldn't be taking Ivermectin as a regular prophylactic. Ivermectin kills all the parasites in your body. Taking more Ivermectin after the parasites have already been cleared from the body doesn't make sense to me. 'COVID' is the symptom, but it is the parasites we are actually dealing with as a result of a compromised immune system. Only take Ivermectin when it is necessary. Take it periodically, but never more than 2 times a week. As a prophylactic, I think once a month is safer considering what it may do to your gut 'flora'. Let your body recover and only use it when necessary. I view it in terms of killing parasites as a 'nuclear option'.
I read a story Steven Quayle, who was taking HCQ and Ivermectin daily. He ended up in the hospital. Our natural immune system is our number one force shield.
FLCCC recommends 5 day dose. Perhaps human pill doesn't have the harmful fillers that horse paste does? I just took horse paste this morning as my symptoms and breathing started scaring me
No doubt. When your pony is sick, the regimen is more like you stated. I was talking about being very wary using it when your pony is perfectly healthy as a preventative.
Got it. The paste caused the runs but along with other stuff restored normal breathing by mid day. And tomorrow, relative is bringing human version instead so that that's nice too.
I was issued a flashlight at work like 15 years ago. It was just a simple plastic flashlight. It came in a little box with a small 'user guide'. It said how to put in the batteries and how to turn it on. There also was warnings "warranty void if misused, or damaged by shark attack or young children"
I am not joking, I kept that disclaimer for years for a laugh.
I have taken a lot of horse paste.... In fact I took a double dose today as I was forced into taking the second kill shot. I will be taking for next three days then every 6 days for a few months.
Loss of job = loss of house + loss of life for family + loss of food + loss of everything we own
So yea I guess the smart thing would be to take the option where I could pack up a few things and move the family down by the river in the SUV. But it is a cold winter and I would not have any money for gas for heat. So yea you think it was my choice. Sure sounds like it. Dont fucking say get another job, you dont live here in communist canada where well over 90% of the population has taken the poison. If I die I die, my family will not be taking the shot and they will get the insurance money.
yea NP. I see you were not but I am Getting sick of people trying to shit on me for not standing my ground and refusing. As it stood I passed the point of getting laid off. But I had a choice and I took the one that might kill me, but would not leave me and my family destitute. I tried I held out and I refused it, but the asshole trudeau banned me from air travel. Then he threatened my province with falling in line or else (we were treating it as basically the flu for a bit). So after trudeau met with him, the prov gov brought in mandates, vax passes etc in a hurried rush. According to the gov over 99% of people complied. So Ya cant take a stand when you are but a grain of sand on a beach.
I pray for you neighbor.. That is horrible. This world needs to be taken back quickly. Like I said, Grape Cleanse. Spirulina, Chlorella, Cilantro oil. I think this can take out the graphene oxide shit and clean your body out. I think its possible. You have to be very strict and vigilante though. WWG1WGA
that warning is bs. My post is about the msds sheets. Drugs are hard on kidneys. Ivermectin included. Even though it cures covid, I wouldnt take all the time.
That's not even close to what I'm saying. Wow. Some of you just lash out so quickly. All drugs have side effects. It probably is hard on the kidneys. You shouldnt be using it all the time. The horse paste, who knows what other inactive ingredients are in it.
Believe me, a thoughbred horse is more valuable to deep state assholes than people are so they’re’s probably nothing harmful in the horse meds. However, I’d be willing to bet they wouldn’t give the rona vaxx to animals. Too many harmful side effects!
Horse organs are larger and probably stronger and more resistant than ours. Drugs can be hard on our kidneys. I know ivermectin works, it just needs to be taken carefully when needed.
As with all drugs.
I read on here ppl eating paste all the time. Like it's a vitamin. That's why I posted this. I guess I came off as an ivermectin hater. Lol. I have 7 tubes myself and tabs.
My guess is the “kidney damage” scare tactic is BS. The SDS claims the LD50 is 10 mg/Kg body weight. That means you’d have to ingest 900 mg for a 198 lb man! That’s 1.98 lbs of the stuff at once! How many people do you know would consume 1.98 lbs of horse paste in one sitting?
Bingo!
I wonder what the relative risks between Ivermectin and the drug that hospitals are using to treat Covid-19 patients - Remdesivir?
What a joke.
How many deaths have their been from Ivermectin. How many? Vs how many people have died from organ shut down after the Remdesivir treatment?
👆This
I just meant eating the paste all the time may have affects on your kidneys is all.
I doubt Ivermectin has a cumulative affect over time. My guess is that the drug is metabolized in your body and cleared from your system after a certain period of time.
that paste can hurt your organs. I'm not talking about accumulation. I'm talking about being hard on your organs. Just like drinking alcohol. Drugs can damage your organs.
Here, have one of my crayons.
Hah.
Have you ever read an MSDS sheet for chemicals? I've read thousands of them.
Basically, an MSDS sheet can make window cleaner or car wax sound deadly. Of course car wax is harmful if you get it in your eye, or if you snort it into your lungs.
You can't be alarmed at everything you see on an MSDS. Do you know what the MSDS says for water? In case you get water in your eye, flush with plenty of water.
I'm fortunate to being able to buy the human version in pills. Me and my wife are taking it twice a month since march 2020. I don't know if I would risk taking the horse paste, I would rather look for something else. But hey, we are lucky to buy it in any pharmacy at very low prices, no restrictions.
I'm not joking when I say there are probably a lot of people here who would be interested in buying it from you if you wanted to purchase it for them. You could charge a finders fee and they would still be very happy to pay you for the trouble.
I understand, it's kind of obvious, there is a big market in the US and the gov is making impossible to buy. You guys should do a class action lawsuit to liberate it over there. Its available in many countries in large quantities. I don't think me sending it to the US would make it to the people in need.
Lol, I meant the people here, on this board. But I understand your reluctance. And that's a good idea, a class action lawsuit. I may bring that idea to attorney Thomas Renz. Thanks!
I was doing some math about it... one single dose (4 pills of 6mg each) costs here 2.80 US$ you need 2 of them per month. I usually buy 20 doses at the time = 56 US$ this lasts 10 Months per person. I have no Idea of the price of the mailing, but lets say its 2 times that (I'm in Brazil) See why I'm reluctant? It amounts to quite a bill, and who would take that risk? Not a Millionaire here! Yet!
Durvet doesn't list the inactive ingredients, but another brand called agri-mectin does. The inactive ingredients are:
Corn Oil, Polysorbate 80, Apple Flavor, Aerosil
I looked into it a while back and I read somewhere that the ingredients are pretty much standard industry wide, but I have no evidence for this. I think the "white paste" version uses different ingredients like titanium dioxide and propylene glycol. Probably not the healthiest stuff in the world, but people seem to do fine on it, at least in the short term. If someone has knowledge about these ingredients, perhaps they can chime in.
Interesting. I'd be more interested if that warning was on the website 6 months ago.
The msds says 2012. Probably last update
You don't think they could have changed it like they changed everything else?
People with high-dollar horses, or even those with backyard horses, regularly give this to horses for years, and they don't want their horses dropping dead or becoming sterile any more than you want those effects for yourself. This sounds rather like the standard denial of liability that lawyers require.
Sounds like more lies pushed on us by big pharma.
I searched for the Hydroxychloroquine SDS and came up with this link: https://cdn.caymanchem.com/cdn/msds/17911m.pdf
And that PDF also says that HCQ is harmful if swallowed. pfft. LOL
yeah right
Horse paste is ivermectin
There are other ingredients in the paste. They arent even listed
This is true. There is only 1.83% ivermectin in yhe tubes i just slurped down.
Are the same warnings made about ivermectin in pill form?
Here's (what at least appears to be) a human consumption pill-form SDS. https://www.fishersci.com/store/msds?partNumber=AAJ6277703&productDescription=IVERMECTIN+1G&vendorId=VN00024248&countryCode=US&language=en
Lower values, still some toxicity and reproductive health concern...fits with the Horse paste SDS though, as that clearly shows half of it's 'toxicity' is from Proprietary Ingredients 1-3 (overall acute tox.=4, ivermectin ingredient=2 on that sheet).
[edit: Search result/link might have baited and switched me. This could be a general SDS...can't seem to find where FisherSci manufactures a pill, even looking for subsidiaries is coming up dry.]
Most intelligent response in this post. Thank you. Exactly what I was talking about.
Idk
What prompted me to look into this was a vet. They said if you take it enough it will damage your kidneys bad. Is it the ivermectin in the paste that does the damage or is it the inactive ingredients? I cant find a list of inactive ingredients. I've taken it 5 times.
I wouldn't be taking Ivermectin as a regular prophylactic. Ivermectin kills all the parasites in your body. Taking more Ivermectin after the parasites have already been cleared from the body doesn't make sense to me. 'COVID' is the symptom, but it is the parasites we are actually dealing with as a result of a compromised immune system. Only take Ivermectin when it is necessary. Take it periodically, but never more than 2 times a week. As a prophylactic, I think once a month is safer considering what it may do to your gut 'flora'. Let your body recover and only use it when necessary. I view it in terms of killing parasites as a 'nuclear option'.
I read a story Steven Quayle, who was taking HCQ and Ivermectin daily. He ended up in the hospital. Our natural immune system is our number one force shield.
FLCCC recommends 5 day dose. Perhaps human pill doesn't have the harmful fillers that horse paste does? I just took horse paste this morning as my symptoms and breathing started scaring me
No doubt. When your pony is sick, the regimen is more like you stated. I was talking about being very wary using it when your pony is perfectly healthy as a preventative.
Got it. The paste caused the runs but along with other stuff restored normal breathing by mid day. And tomorrow, relative is bringing human version instead so that that's nice too.
I know people that have been taking it for months with no problem.
Kidney damage and reproductive damage can happen over time
I was issued a flashlight at work like 15 years ago. It was just a simple plastic flashlight. It came in a little box with a small 'user guide'. It said how to put in the batteries and how to turn it on. There also was warnings "warranty void if misused, or damaged by shark attack or young children"
I am not joking, I kept that disclaimer for years for a laugh.
I have taken a lot of horse paste.... In fact I took a double dose today as I was forced into taking the second kill shot. I will be taking for next three days then every 6 days for a few months.
Forced?!
Loss of job = loss of house + loss of life for family + loss of food + loss of everything we own
So yea I guess the smart thing would be to take the option where I could pack up a few things and move the family down by the river in the SUV. But it is a cold winter and I would not have any money for gas for heat. So yea you think it was my choice. Sure sounds like it. Dont fucking say get another job, you dont live here in communist canada where well over 90% of the population has taken the poison. If I die I die, my family will not be taking the shot and they will get the insurance money.
Try a grape cleanse to the get the other toxins out. Chlorella, Spirulina, Cilantro for metals.
I'm sorry. I was asking a question. I didn't know your story or where you live. My apologies. I wish you and your family well.
yea NP. I see you were not but I am Getting sick of people trying to shit on me for not standing my ground and refusing. As it stood I passed the point of getting laid off. But I had a choice and I took the one that might kill me, but would not leave me and my family destitute. I tried I held out and I refused it, but the asshole trudeau banned me from air travel. Then he threatened my province with falling in line or else (we were treating it as basically the flu for a bit). So after trudeau met with him, the prov gov brought in mandates, vax passes etc in a hurried rush. According to the gov over 99% of people complied. So Ya cant take a stand when you are but a grain of sand on a beach.
I pray for you neighbor.. That is horrible. This world needs to be taken back quickly. Like I said, Grape Cleanse. Spirulina, Chlorella, Cilantro oil. I think this can take out the graphene oxide shit and clean your body out. I think its possible. You have to be very strict and vigilante though. WWG1WGA
Yeah they give it to race horses that are worth millions. I think we will be fine.
I think DS operatives forced them to put that warning on it. I call BS
9 year old warning on horse paste
Agreed, but I was referring to the Covid warning
that warning is bs. My post is about the msds sheets. Drugs are hard on kidneys. Ivermectin included. Even though it cures covid, I wouldnt take all the time.