I don't believe in atheists. Everyone worships something, consciously or unconsciously.
When you are close to someone, it is generally quite evident who or what they worship in the decisions they make and how those decisions affect themselves and others around them.
I tried that whole atheist thing when I was younger. Problem for me was, it's a religion by definition. I think we can agree religion is based on faith. Athiests have faith there in no God nor anything else. Thus the whole thing falls apart as easily as the opposing faction. Both sides are based on faith of that which cannot yet be proven. I believe there is something out there, but I don't proscribe to any single organized religion. My faith is in what is right and what is wrong. If there is something else out there, I'm backing the dude on the side of freedom. Atheism is a religion for the defeated, and that's why I moved on. For reference, I grew up in Northern Ireland during the troubles, so my outlook on religion within the big picture is different from many.
I'm an ex-atheist. Perhaps people would say that I have gained faith by moving towards mysticism. I think it's more like I lost my faith in my previous position of atheism and I haven't subscribed to Christian faith at this time.
There's something going on out there, but I think the moment I try to encapsulate it in a defined faith I'm going to start being wrong about something.
The "Catlick Chorch" is a traitor to the people, and perhaps nowhere we can see that better than in Eire. Sounds like you have this sorted, but faith ≠ religion, as much as these folks would have you believe that.
What about nihilism?
Bit more complicated than just which deity you believe in, it would be like explaining being blind to those with sight to explain nihilism to a person with beliefs
I believe there are people who believe that they are atheists. But they live their lives in worship of something that, in practice, becomes their deity, whether they profess it or not.
Edit: to be clear, I have nothing against anyone for their beliefs, atheist or otherwise. Actions speak louder than beliefs and I measure people accordingly. Also, I knew this post would be controversial, and I enjoy the debate because it helps all involved think outside their respective boxes. Cheers!
No, you're absolutely right; whether they deify sex, money, or whatever else, nobody goes long without the worship of something. I think these others are arguing about the personification of said thing to the shape of a deity, which is really a moot distinction. A valid distinction, though, is that there are aimless zombies out there with no purpose until one inhabits them; there are temporary atheists. If they survive it, they find something to worship.
Actually, atheism is the belief that there definitely is no deity. Agnosticism is the lack of belief in a deity. But Jesus said, "You shall know the Truth and the Truth will make you free!"
I think agnosticism is a bit more nuanced. It's more of "I'd believe in a deity if I saw enough proof", whereas atheism is hard core "There is no god".
I'm saying this as an agnostic. I used to be hardcore atheist, but I've opened up my mind to the possibility of a god existing. My problem is that there is so much conflict as to whose god is the right one. Seems that a lot of people usually go with what they were raised with as the correct one.
First step, is to understand that different forms of god are being preached and interpreted by people. That’s all. People. And people can make mistakes, and interpret thru there own lenses — political, emotional, generational. To truly know the Living God Almighty, seek Him first and His kingdom through the Bible, which is written and inspired by the Holy Spirit. This happens in the heart. Not the mind — in the deep part of your spirit. You will find him there waiting.
I don't believe in atheists. Everyone worships something, consciously or unconsciously.
When you are close to someone, it is generally quite evident who or what they worship in the decisions they make and how those decisions affect themselves and others around them.
I tried that whole atheist thing when I was younger. Problem for me was, it's a religion by definition. I think we can agree religion is based on faith. Athiests have faith there in no God nor anything else. Thus the whole thing falls apart as easily as the opposing faction. Both sides are based on faith of that which cannot yet be proven. I believe there is something out there, but I don't proscribe to any single organized religion. My faith is in what is right and what is wrong. If there is something else out there, I'm backing the dude on the side of freedom. Atheism is a religion for the defeated, and that's why I moved on. For reference, I grew up in Northern Ireland during the troubles, so my outlook on religion within the big picture is different from many.
I like your take on it.
I'm an ex-atheist. Perhaps people would say that I have gained faith by moving towards mysticism. I think it's more like I lost my faith in my previous position of atheism and I haven't subscribed to Christian faith at this time.
There's something going on out there, but I think the moment I try to encapsulate it in a defined faith I'm going to start being wrong about something.
Check this out:
https://montalk.net/gnosis/171/corruption-of-the-demiurge
a faith does not necessarily have to be christian, there are a lot of other ways to take care of your soul.
The God-shaped Hole.
The "Catlick Chorch" is a traitor to the people, and perhaps nowhere we can see that better than in Eire. Sounds like you have this sorted, but faith ≠ religion, as much as these folks would have you believe that.
Athbhliain faoi mhaise duit!
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What about nihilism? Bit more complicated than just which deity you believe in, it would be like explaining being blind to those with sight to explain nihilism to a person with beliefs
Atheism is the lack of belief in a deity.
Given what Atheism is, the rest of your statement is nonsense.
With that said, YES there are plenty of atheists who need to worship something.
I believe there are people who believe that they are atheists. But they live their lives in worship of something that, in practice, becomes their deity, whether they profess it or not.
Edit: to be clear, I have nothing against anyone for their beliefs, atheist or otherwise. Actions speak louder than beliefs and I measure people accordingly. Also, I knew this post would be controversial, and I enjoy the debate because it helps all involved think outside their respective boxes. Cheers!
yup the beast system is an idol
No, you're absolutely right; whether they deify sex, money, or whatever else, nobody goes long without the worship of something. I think these others are arguing about the personification of said thing to the shape of a deity, which is really a moot distinction. A valid distinction, though, is that there are aimless zombies out there with no purpose until one inhabits them; there are temporary atheists. If they survive it, they find something to worship.
Actually, atheism is the belief that there definitely is no deity. Agnosticism is the lack of belief in a deity. But Jesus said, "You shall know the Truth and the Truth will make you free!"
I think agnosticism is a bit more nuanced. It's more of "I'd believe in a deity if I saw enough proof", whereas atheism is hard core "There is no god".
I'm saying this as an agnostic. I used to be hardcore atheist, but I've opened up my mind to the possibility of a god existing. My problem is that there is so much conflict as to whose god is the right one. Seems that a lot of people usually go with what they were raised with as the correct one.
First step, is to understand that different forms of god are being preached and interpreted by people. That’s all. People. And people can make mistakes, and interpret thru there own lenses — political, emotional, generational. To truly know the Living God Almighty, seek Him first and His kingdom through the Bible, which is written and inspired by the Holy Spirit. This happens in the heart. Not the mind — in the deep part of your spirit. You will find him there waiting.
it's a pose to say you don't believe in anything