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Me and Ashli Babbitt's Mother at a Rally in San Diego Today. NEVER FORGET! (media.greatawakening.win)
posted 4 years ago by War_Hamster 4 years ago by War_Hamster +166 / -0
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– spanglevision 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

Please understand that I mean no disrespect to anyone, especially Ashley Babbit's family, but the entire situation is completely suspect. I just want to pose a question to you (since you seem to know the family): is it possible that Ashley willingly participated in an 3 letter agency organized FF intending to walk away unscathed? I'm not saying she knew the FF organizer's true intentions but perhaps they offered her a large sum of money or they convinced her climbing through that window was prudent for the future of the country. I genuinely believe she's passed on but no part of me thinks that scene where she climbs through that window was organic. No one flinched when the shot was fired. People scatter like cockroaches with the lights on when they think their lives are in danger and no one flinched. That video that Wooz News created offers a lot of things to think about.

I've played around with the idea that she was indeed wearing squibs and that the whole scene was rehearsed ahead of time (days before) and that she was actually murdered in the video, but the other actors were just playing out there scenes. One dude starts yelling you murdered her. He might have realized she was actually passed.

There is also the possibility that she was unharmed at the scene a murdered later (in the ambulance or in the hospital or wherever it was that they took her).

May she rest in peace and I hope her family is able to heal. The evil bastards behind the FF need to pay.

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– War_Hamster [S] 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

I appreciate the respectful way you asked these questions.

I think the most likely scenario, based on what I know about Ashli, is that she got deliberately separated from the herd for the specific purpose of creating a death to add to the "insurrection" narrative. She was surrounded by some well known operatives, and I find it very plausible that she was herded into the kill zone.

Don't forget about the earlier video of her yelling at people to stop breaking windows.

The fact that the people around her, including cops, did not act as we'd expect them to seems to support this narrative. If they knew there was going to be a shooting, it would explain this.

I don't have any facts that you don't have, but I do know the community and those who knew her aren't buying the crisis actor theory. They certainly believe she was murdered, so I'm going with that until someone definitively proves otherwise.

The fact that I'm probably the only one here who texts with her Mom and her friends may give a bit of weight to my opinion, but I truly don't know what happened that day with any certainty.

For what it's worth, her Mom seemed much stronger today than when I first met her last Spring. Most are just hoping we can one day get a real investigation and perhaps find out the real entire truth.

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– Cathmarcella2 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

Please let Ashlis family know that we are praying for them and she will forever be in our prays. No matter the real story she is and will forever be known as a Great Patriot for Our Country.

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– War_Hamster [S] 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

I'll pass that along to her Mom. She really does appreciate the kind words so many send their way.

I like them.....good people.

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– spanglevision 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Thank you War_Hamster; appreciate you!

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– War_Hamster [S] 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Cheers.

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– SaveAmerica2021 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

What if the REAL story is that she was working a false flag operation for the other side?

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– SaveAmerica2021 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Problem with " innocent person herded into kill zone" theory is that she was never shot, there was no blood from the shoulder area as cleary seen in this view

The only blood on that "cops" hand is trickle from her mouth(blood capsule?). If he were really trying to stop the bleeding, there would be blood on his hands as he is literally holding something the size of a wet nap on her shoulder.

Then when she is exposed on the right there is NO BLOOD on her clothing at all

https://postimg.cc/BLVWRTpm

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– War_Hamster [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

We've all seen those videos, and I think it's fair to ask those questions. But they are not conclusive one way or the other, and there's plenty of videos out there that suggest the opposite.

Again, I have met the people around her and that leads me to lean towards her actually having been murdered.

Speculate all you like, but please do so respectfully just in case you're wrong.

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– SaveAmerica2021 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Can you link me to a few of those PLENTY of videos that suggest the opposite?

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– War_Hamster [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I don't have any saved and I'm sure you're every bit as capable of searching for them as I am. Sorry I can't be more helpful.

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– SaveAmerica2021 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Because there are NONE......you just made that part about there being plenty up.

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– SaveAmerica2021 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

LIke I said pal, the fact that they THINK she was murdered doesnt make it so.

And maybe she was murdered,...but it WASNT at the capital.

How would you all react if you find out later that she is alive but is working for

A, The other side

B. The good guys

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– War_Hamster [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I'm not saying I know anything for certain. You seem to be the one making that claim, or at least that's the impression I got.

My position has always been to agree that something about that whole scene is off, but none of us knows exactly what happened.

I admit my own bias comes from actually knowing some of the players, but I'm prepared to be wrong.

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– SaveAmerica2021 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Well of course the people who knew her would rather believe that she was a Patriot who got killed by the bad guys rather than accept the possibility that she was part of a false flag attempt.

Anyone who says otherwise within that community would be shunned.

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– deleted 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0
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– spanglevision 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Agreed. You have to assume every anonymous person you encounter on the internet is the enemy (I sometimes fail on that assumption). That being said: no reason to be disrespectful; try telling that to the chans, LOL.

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– Iceman80 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

These crisis actors are everywhere.

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– War_Hamster [S] 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Provide proof or begone. I have met these people and you're going to have a tough time convincing me Ashli wasn't killed.

Real grief is hard to fake.

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– TheJake 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

https://www.bitchute.com/video/IsIqViZQLsH8/

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– War_Hamster [S] 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Saw that when it came out.

Again, these are people I know. Sometimes things on the internet aren't real.

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– TheJake 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

That blank cartridge flash and faked recoil sold me on the clownop

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– War_Hamster [S] 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I've heard all of those arguments before, and I understand why someone would draw that conclusion.

Because I'm a bit closer to the situation, I've got other information that leads me to believe otherwise.

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– GoingCamaro 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

She could have been abducted the night before and replaced with a crisis actor. Or as others suggested, led into the slaughter.

Either way there is all manner of missing info on the subject and what we were told does not make any sense. I mean the family doesn't find it strange she was cremated without an autopsy?

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– War_Hamster [S] 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Yes, there are a lot of missing pieces and yes, the family is not happy about it.

I think their lawyers have them being a bit careful with public statements.

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... continue reading thread?
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– Trumpternal 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

The same garbage video you all point to as if it's proof of something.

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– SaveAmerica2021 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

yep cuz you met "mom"

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– War_Hamster [S] 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

I've actually met "dad" too:

https://patriots.win/p/12j03rbTEL/pic-of-me-and-ashli-babbits-pare/c/

I've also spoken with Ashli's friends and the attorneys.

Perhaps I have a bit more insight into this than most? And yes, I've seen all of the videos.

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– DeLagery1095 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

The DS has been controlling the minds of the sheep for centuries but 5 people realistically "grieving" can't be fake. Think about it. Why would the "family" will be repeating the same history as the MSM? Who are they trying to convince? Who wins spreading this false narrative?

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– War_Hamster [S] 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Agreed. I don't see the upside of going around to our protests and rallies spreading a falsehood. Makes no sense, as we're not the ones the DS is trying to fool.

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– SaveAmerica2021 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Makes sense if you believe that she died as well. All her freinds and family can be sincere about the grief.

She may be dead or alive but she didnt die at the capital.

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– SaveAmerica2021 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Mass psychosis. LIke you said , everyone in the local communitiy has bought into the story and dare not speak otherwise less they be shunned by the others.

Never try to deny people's victimhood.

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– SaveAmerica2021 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Dude you have no insight , just part of the hivemind trying to push a preferred narrative.

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– deleted 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0
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– airborne3502 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

The strap she has on creates an interesting optical illusion and you look a lot like Larry Bird.

She died one of the last free Americans.

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– Insignificant 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

I thought he had a prosthetic arm at first.

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– Zepp87 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Same here

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– FreedomLover21 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Yes, what’s up with the strap?

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– EchoLight 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Now I'm one of those who have seen the breakdown video and was convinced it was a set up.

However, it intrigues me that Trump is in support of her family as if she were murdered at face value, and that you share a similar stance on the matter. I'd be open to changing my mind if I could at least tell how much we didn't know.

What type of information do you have that leads you to believe otherwise? What kind of information are we missing here? Obviously when I ask, I am not asking you to compromise the investigation or the operation. I emphasise "type and kind" to avoid pressing you for too much detail.

But as long as you don't indicate that there is information out there and what type and kind it is, no one will believe you and you will needlessly waste time and energy trying to fight the naysayers. The fact of the matter is, the video is information-complete even if the conclusion were dead wrong. Would you kindly indicate where and how it is not complete?

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– War_Hamster [S] 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Very reasonable question.

I've seen all of the video breakdowns and readily admit that there was something very much "off" about the whole thing. It certainly seems to have been a setup to me, but the real question is whether she was in on it or just a patsy that was separated from the crowd for the specific purpose of making the "insurrection" deadly. Gotta have a death to push that narrative.

The people who suggest she was a crisis actor do not live in San Diego. I do. I've met her parents and her friends. I've spoken with the family's lawyers.

The Babbitts have been in San Diego a long time. A lot of people who are part of our Patriotic movement have known them for years. Not a single person who knows them thinks she was anything other than a true Patriot. I'm talking dozens of people who I know and have spoken to. It's pretty likely you'll get punched if you suggest she's still alive to these people.

So I don't KNOW one way or the other. I've got no physical evidence that the rest of you haven't seen. But I am part of the same community she came from, and every instinct I have tells me that dozens of people aren't wrong or lying.

If she shows up alive some day, I'll be quite shocked, but I have to admit that this possibility has not been eliminated yet. I just don't buy it.

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– EchoLight 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I very much think she's deceased in all cases and I too would be very surprised if she were still alive. The role she played was that of the sacrifice and is employed wherever there has been a colour revolution to ignite the flames of conflict, and in all cases the sacrifices are truly deceased.

With the information in this thread, I lean more now however to her being an unsuspecting patsy being led to her own slaughter. Hopefully the truth shall come to light so that her family and her soul may finally find some peace.

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– War_Hamster [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Cheers.

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– deleted 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0
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– Anon8675309 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I personally believe what you suggested. That she was led into the kill zone to see if they could spark one huge and nasty battle, provoking violence among the people at the capital. It clearly didn't work.

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– NanaQ45 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Bless her heart. I hate everything they've done to this family. Thanks so much for sharing.

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– Hot_N_Throbbin 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

The video and the blood was absolutely fake as it stands, its pretty irrefutable. How she plays a role in this, if they're in on it, if shes a white hat double agent crisis actor, who knows the depth of these operations... We can assume its part of the show if we truly believe in Q's posts.

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– War_Hamster [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

The video and the blood was absolutely fake as it stands, its pretty irrefutable."

In this day and age, no video is irrefutable.

We can assume its part of the show if we truly believe in Q's posts."

I'm not a "true believer", but I certainly don't dismiss Q as quite a bit of it is certainly plausible.

Dealing in absolutes is a fool's errand in Clown World.

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– Mandigo 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

No offense, but every time I hear "I knew her family how dare you question her murder!" I think of the wives of serial killers who are always in complete denial over their "loving" husband who, I'm sure was a completely normal person to everyone near him, but unfortunately was a serial killer! JUST because you fucking know someone, doesnt mean you actually know them. I'm not saying Ashley Babbitt is a serial killer, but denial is real, deception and lies know NO limit! Even those closest to someone such as their wife or husband may not truly know who their spouse is. Just because you met these people, just because they were nice and honest and good, doesn't mean a damn thing about all of this.

The video posted is DAMNING. At some point, the family needs to examine the video and decide for themselves. I'm sorry I have to put it so bluntly, and I believe the family has every right to grieve over their lost loved one, and they shouldn't have to put up with these questions or discussions. But at some point it needs to happen, and I completely respect them if they do not ever want to get into it. We still have a right to examine and question her death and they owe it to her, and themselves to find out what got her into that situation. The case is not closed on Ashley Babbitt. If the family doesn't want it discussed around them then we should respect that, but outside of that it is perfectly reasonable to question her death and the actors around her who tried to incite a riot (and failed miserably) by purposely screaming over and over again to the crowd far and wide that she was shot and killed, especially under these circumstances! It WILL happen again, they WILL do this again and another person like her might get caught up in this all over again and it might lead to something even worse. The best course of action is to let the public know who the people she was involved with were and what their motives were so this doesn't happen again! We are so damn close to exposing all of their tricks and tactics, I feel like they are weakening by the day and eventually they will lose every weapon they have where nothing they do will ever work again.

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– War_Hamster [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I've been pretty careful to admit that my knowing some of the people around here in no way constitutes proof of anything. I've even openly stated that this biases my opinion.

I think a lot of the theories running around are BS, but something has never been right about the whole episode, and I most certainly do not know the full truth.

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