It's not like this is "tax money." That's not where taxes go. All this money comes from fantasy land.
Congress says, "Hey Fed, give me money so I can buy some pork."
The Fed says, "Give me more signatures of indenture on the population of America." (That includes you, me, and the person who has this EBT card.)
Congress says, "Sure thing! Here's some pieces of paper that say we will further enslave the American people for another fifty years to your almightyness."
The Fed says, "Thanks. Here's more pork. Go buy yourself a new home in the Hamptons for being such good congressional girls and boys." Pats congressional heads.
"Taxes" only go to making sure that system stays afloat. The portion that goes to pay for these people's food is meaningless. I don't mean "because it's so little." I mean because the whole thing is a fraud.
It is not where the "money" goes that's the main problem. It's the fraud that is "money." It's the fraud that is "taxes." Until you stop seeing things in terms of money, or taxes, or "look what this other person got with our tax money," you will remain stuck in The Matrix (Bank Fraud edition).
This is insufficient. I don't think the US has any gold. Without backing, there can be no "US note". Plus, while I think PMs are an excellent piece of a solution, relying on PMs exclusively is not the way. We must create a new system of barter. Asset backed crypto is the way to go. All stocks, PMs, any asset that can be reasonably stored and the infrastructure for exchange between real and crypto created.
Fiat can't work. If you have fiat without forcing fiat (taxation, which is a fraud) then people will just use barter. PMs can't work by themselves. PMs can be horded, and then the economy is trivial to control. That's how this whole mess started. In fact the evidence suggests that the hording of PMs has been the cause of the destruction of many of the largest empires. PMs by themselves can't work. True barter is the only way.
I agree for the most part, and most crucial is precious metals backed US note. But I mean for right now. Why can't the US start issuing notes? People can't tell the difference when they switched from US notes to fed res notes, they probably won't notice when it's switched back again. The difference is we, as guarantors via taxation powers, won't also be crushed under enormous interest. The ponzi scheme that was the fed reserve is up, it's come due. There's just too much debt and not enough new victims.
What is it going to be backed by? If it doesn't have a backing, or it isn't used under forced taxation (which is a complete fraud) then it's nothing but a piece of paper.
The Federal Reserve note is backed by our future labor. While that's as useful as unicorn farts in the present, it at least has something. Are we going to ensure that the US note is also backed by our future labor (indenture)? Are we going to trade one slave master for another?
I think not.
If we have gold, and the government can back it by gold (or silver, or whatever) than I'm all for it. It would be an excellent stopgap. But a piece of paper that says "US Note: Backed By Nothing" is worth exactly what it is backed by, and people will just use barter.
Here's a hint. People can already use barter. They don't have to use FRNs. We could use silver. We don't need the government to tell us what to do. We could use wheat grains, or fish, or whatever as a barter intermediary (though wheat and fish don't last too long). The point is, a US note that is worthless, is worthless. It won't solve anything.
The difference is we, as guarantors via taxation powers, won't also be crushed under enormous interest.
Slavery is slavery. Taxation for anything other than purchases or use (present moment taxes, i.e. paying to use something, buy something, etc.) is slavery. This is no solution.
The ponzi scheme that was the fed reserve is up, it's come due.
While I agree it was doomed to fail at some point, it didn't have to be for a long time. Probably another 50-100 years. We've been exporting inflation. We had plenty of more exporting we could do. It will fail soon, but that is by choice, not an inevitability.
But whatever the fed res notes are backed by, the US note can be backed by the same thing? if you say future labor, then that as well for the US note. The fed res makes govt almost an after thought since they don't need govt to print fiat. My objection to the fed res not just because it's a theft system but it really does make govt beholden to it rather than govt having powers of mint. Systems of currency have existed before the fed res.
if you say future labor, then that as well for the US note.
I don't think you fully appreciate what this means. This is exactly, precisely, no ifs, ands, or buts about it, slavery.
I agree that it sucks that we are slaves to the Fed and those that own the Fed, but being a slave to a new master is not an improvement. It's not an upgrade, it's at best a sidegrade. I'll not be joining that insanity, nor would it be wise for humanity to think like that. Us believing (as we do) that our government is our sovereign is the fraud. That's what we currently believe the Fed is, our government, and we currently believe that the "dollar" as we call it, is a promise on our slavery.
And you want to make that a reality because you think that's better than the truth, that our real slavemaster is a hidden hand instead of an overt one.
The government is not your sovereign. That is the fraud. That the Fed is the real government is irrelevant. That's just the structure of the fraud. The real fraud is one of teaching us that we are slaves.
Sovereign means "ultimate authority." Who is the ultimate authority of you? Let's set aside the answer of "God," or, "the universe," etc. The validity of such an answer is questionable, and depends on what those things really are, which is the subject of much (pretty much all) debate. My question is, within the scope of our physical realm, who is the ultimate authority of you?
The answer of course is you. You are the sovereign of you.
The government can't be your sovereign because there can be no "hierarchy" of sovereigns. That suggests that one entity has more rights, more authority over you. Yet you are the ultimate authority of you. Ultimate means there is no higher authority. Therefore, the government can't be your sovereign, thus they can't enslave you. Only you can enslave yourself.
What this means is, any system designed to enslave you in such a manner, automatically contains within it, the coercion to encourage you to enslave yourself, and that is a crime; a direct violation of your sovereign rights, which is to say, inalienable rights (those are identical sayings).
I suggest it would not be a good idea to set up a government, or economic system based on crime.
I sure wish my family had some help like that. We are struggling over here paycheck to paycheck trying to buy groceries. Hoping shit changes really soon. In the meantime Jesusβs mana is very tasty ππ»
I used to work around some guys. Never married their gf. Their address is listed as the Moms house. Gf gets Section 8, WIC, Cash Aid, and food stamps. They would come to work on Fridays and sell the EBt cards($100 cards) for 50 cents on the dollar. Enraging. These guys were making well over $110k/year, with take home vehicles
The irony is they use this bribery to recruit true believers, but when they get full command your government credits will be meagre and short lived, the money will never accumulate, it will fade away if you don't spend it.
It's not like this is "tax money." That's not where taxes go. All this money comes from fantasy land.
Congress says, "Hey Fed, give me money so I can buy some pork."
The Fed says, "Give me more signatures of indenture on the population of America." (That includes you, me, and the person who has this EBT card.)
Congress says, "Sure thing! Here's some pieces of paper that say we will further enslave the American people for another fifty years to your almightyness."
The Fed says, "Thanks. Here's more pork. Go buy yourself a new home in the Hamptons for being such good congressional girls and boys." Pats congressional heads.
"Taxes" only go to making sure that system stays afloat. The portion that goes to pay for these people's food is meaningless. I don't mean "because it's so little." I mean because the whole thing is a fraud.
It is not where the "money" goes that's the main problem. It's the fraud that is "money." It's the fraud that is "taxes." Until you stop seeing things in terms of money, or taxes, or "look what this other person got with our tax money," you will remain stuck in The Matrix (Bank Fraud edition).
end the fed, problem will take care of itself. the fed can start right now issuing US notes and return all fed res notes to fed res banks.
This is insufficient. I don't think the US has any gold. Without backing, there can be no "US note". Plus, while I think PMs are an excellent piece of a solution, relying on PMs exclusively is not the way. We must create a new system of barter. Asset backed crypto is the way to go. All stocks, PMs, any asset that can be reasonably stored and the infrastructure for exchange between real and crypto created.
Fiat can't work. If you have fiat without forcing fiat (taxation, which is a fraud) then people will just use barter. PMs can't work by themselves. PMs can be horded, and then the economy is trivial to control. That's how this whole mess started. In fact the evidence suggests that the hording of PMs has been the cause of the destruction of many of the largest empires. PMs by themselves can't work. True barter is the only way.
I agree for the most part, and most crucial is precious metals backed US note. But I mean for right now. Why can't the US start issuing notes? People can't tell the difference when they switched from US notes to fed res notes, they probably won't notice when it's switched back again. The difference is we, as guarantors via taxation powers, won't also be crushed under enormous interest. The ponzi scheme that was the fed reserve is up, it's come due. There's just too much debt and not enough new victims.
What is it going to be backed by? If it doesn't have a backing, or it isn't used under forced taxation (which is a complete fraud) then it's nothing but a piece of paper.
The Federal Reserve note is backed by our future labor. While that's as useful as unicorn farts in the present, it at least has something. Are we going to ensure that the US note is also backed by our future labor (indenture)? Are we going to trade one slave master for another?
I think not.
If we have gold, and the government can back it by gold (or silver, or whatever) than I'm all for it. It would be an excellent stopgap. But a piece of paper that says "US Note: Backed By Nothing" is worth exactly what it is backed by, and people will just use barter.
Here's a hint. People can already use barter. They don't have to use FRNs. We could use silver. We don't need the government to tell us what to do. We could use wheat grains, or fish, or whatever as a barter intermediary (though wheat and fish don't last too long). The point is, a US note that is worthless, is worthless. It won't solve anything.
Slavery is slavery. Taxation for anything other than purchases or use (present moment taxes, i.e. paying to use something, buy something, etc.) is slavery. This is no solution.
While I agree it was doomed to fail at some point, it didn't have to be for a long time. Probably another 50-100 years. We've been exporting inflation. We had plenty of more exporting we could do. It will fail soon, but that is by choice, not an inevitability.
But whatever the fed res notes are backed by, the US note can be backed by the same thing? if you say future labor, then that as well for the US note. The fed res makes govt almost an after thought since they don't need govt to print fiat. My objection to the fed res not just because it's a theft system but it really does make govt beholden to it rather than govt having powers of mint. Systems of currency have existed before the fed res.
I don't think you fully appreciate what this means. This is exactly, precisely, no ifs, ands, or buts about it, slavery.
I agree that it sucks that we are slaves to the Fed and those that own the Fed, but being a slave to a new master is not an improvement. It's not an upgrade, it's at best a sidegrade. I'll not be joining that insanity, nor would it be wise for humanity to think like that. Us believing (as we do) that our government is our sovereign is the fraud. That's what we currently believe the Fed is, our government, and we currently believe that the "dollar" as we call it, is a promise on our slavery.
And you want to make that a reality because you think that's better than the truth, that our real slavemaster is a hidden hand instead of an overt one.
The government is not your sovereign. That is the fraud. That the Fed is the real government is irrelevant. That's just the structure of the fraud. The real fraud is one of teaching us that we are slaves.
Sovereign means "ultimate authority." Who is the ultimate authority of you? Let's set aside the answer of "God," or, "the universe," etc. The validity of such an answer is questionable, and depends on what those things really are, which is the subject of much (pretty much all) debate. My question is, within the scope of our physical realm, who is the ultimate authority of you?
The answer of course is you. You are the sovereign of you.
The government can't be your sovereign because there can be no "hierarchy" of sovereigns. That suggests that one entity has more rights, more authority over you. Yet you are the ultimate authority of you. Ultimate means there is no higher authority. Therefore, the government can't be your sovereign, thus they can't enslave you. Only you can enslave yourself.
What this means is, any system designed to enslave you in such a manner, automatically contains within it, the coercion to encourage you to enslave yourself, and that is a crime; a direct violation of your sovereign rights, which is to say, inalienable rights (those are identical sayings).
I suggest it would not be a good idea to set up a government, or economic system based on crime.
so thats how they paid ballot harvesters
What the hell??
I know right? $6.99 a pound for ground chuck, God damned robbery.
That can't be real. πͺ I am in tears over the nonsense of this kind of BS. My heart is breaking tonight.
I sure wish my family had some help like that. We are struggling over here paycheck to paycheck trying to buy groceries. Hoping shit changes really soon. In the meantime Jesusβs mana is very tasty ππ»
After working years in grocery retail my first thought was I can't believe they're buying real food and not cheetos and crap. π
That's $408 just for meat! What,are they feeding an army??
Reposting from another site.
Super Bowl party!!
I used to work around some guys. Never married their gf. Their address is listed as the Moms house. Gf gets Section 8, WIC, Cash Aid, and food stamps. They would come to work on Fridays and sell the EBt cards($100 cards) for 50 cents on the dollar. Enraging. These guys were making well over $110k/year, with take home vehicles
AND PPL WONDER WHY GROCERIES COST SO MUCH!!
Alignment is off....looks like a shop job.
The irony is they use this bribery to recruit true believers, but when they get full command your government credits will be meagre and short lived, the money will never accumulate, it will fade away if you don't spend it.