A co-worker and I got into a discussion today (not the first). He is pretty much on track with most of the people here but he isn't a member. He is what I refer to as an informed NPC. He absolutely gets what's happening but doesn't get any of the back ground. No understanding of history other than the standard story by the MSM and government sponsored history. He is aware of how bad things are and he wants war. He admitted to me in no uncertain terms that he wants the destruction of society and a war to cleanse the planet.
Don't get me wrong, I have tried many times to clue him in to many things but he seems dead set on his view. He did get the shot, 2 of them, in order to stay employed and I understand his position with kids and everything. I too have kids but I refused and am still employed because of the courts. I think he has become enraged because he took the shot but in the end he didn't need to.
I feel his anger but don't feel like I can truly open up to him. Where am I going wrong? I need some guidance from you guys about how to approach this.
Help please. He is a very smart person. I like him too. But I really don't know where to go.
On the war, tell him to go back to the time between the election and the inauguration. Explain how the bad guys were salivating at the idea that Trump would fight, so they could mobilize Antifa + BLM times 10, and call in the blue helmets to slice and dice the country and its citizens. Then explain how smart Trump is that he saved millions of lives by waving them through like a matador. The longer he waited the more lives are saved, and the more the evil is exposed. Then show him Patel Patriot's devolution page. Good luck.
Thank you. This was an answer I needed.
This is NPC talk and perhaps your opportunity. Reduce everything to ash and “start over”? Really? Like overnight magic? Does he also believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy? Have him explain to you exactly what is supposed to happen to rebuild. Also have him explain to you exactly about what will be done to the politicians and such that got us into this mess.
Have him recognize that to get him thinking. Otherwise there is no hope of making progress with him. If he can finally start thinking about how to really fix things then it may be a good time to start talking about “The Plan”. Don’t bring Q into it. Basically say, “what if there was a plan to bring down the people that have caused this mess and restore society to proper function?”
I should have posted more but I didn't want a super long post.
I did this exact thing. He is convinced that trials or hearings, even if they result in the perpetrators hanging, will have everyone believing it's a conspiracy and trumped up charges. Basically that "Nuremberg 2.0" will never work because of the way people are.
Nuremberg trials were military tribunals. What if the military is doing something, going to do something, but they have to wait until all civilian mechanisms have failed?
He’s not thinking straight if he wants a war. He will die while the bad guys on top will not. Forget about what he thinks - know your own truth - we are all expecting a positive outcome in the not too distant future so we can go forward from there.
It is impossible to reason with an angry person.
Take the time to read, and reread the serenity prayer. Open your Bible to random places and read a little. I've been so pissed I've forgotten about it until I felt your pain. Thank you.
Are you essentially trying to get him on the 'same page' as you, hoping to bond with him and have a Q buddy? I don't know if that's possible. There are a lot of smart people who are normies. It may happen organically, if you just keep talking with him, but be prepared for it to never go further than it is right now.
No. He is a co-worker. You guys are my Q buddies. That's why I am asking you.
Just be patient. Some of this stuff has been so long in the making that it cannot be communicated in a few minutes.
Put it on God and share that with him
What media does he consume his news on?
If you care enough, watch what he is watching, and find an opportunity to show him where some propaganda is conflicting with some reality. After a few times he will start to distrust these sources he trusted before.
He might be in a better position to discuss reasonable things again.
This is rather important. My husband is worse than a normie. This Durham report he said he would believe if he saw it on the MSM. I told him NO deal. I guaranteed him he would NOT see in on MSM and I was RIGHT. But that he would probably find it on Fox. He switched the channel. AND he loves the memes and Sunday Funnies that I show him. So, some answered prayers. I have to thank you all for being a positive influence! Hate and ugliness is such a turnoff. I was a Q fan long before Q showed up. I don't feel so alone now that I have you all.
Honestly, I am not sure I understand your question and what you are trying to accomplish with him. I understand the situation you have summarized, but... what outcome are you trying to achieve with him?
I mean, I guess I want him to see the truth. Not that I even know it completely but I have a 20 yo son who now brings me stuff I didn't catch.
I like the guy. He's a cool dude and someone who should and could be an asset? Someone who could help this cause. I know there is no way to force it. That's why I am asking.
Gotcha. Thanks for that.
First, no one knows the truth. On this board we are trying to discern it, and we dig up and share facts, etc. My point is, if you take the burden off yourself of trying to get him to the truth, and instead focus on getting him to ask questions, then he can arrive at the first milestone: What we are so often told is not the truth, which implies that there is a truth that needs tobe discovered.
How do you do that? Ask him if he knows about false flags. Dig up the memo where the CIA uses that term to describe the need to turn the people of Miami (I think it was) against Cuba. This one memo proves that false flags are real and not a conspiracy theory. Then ask, "Do you think the media's deception stopped with this one thing?". Obviously the answer must be " no".
If he is curious enough, ask him if he's game to get together for some beers and watch a documentary series called The Fall of the Cabal. Preface it by saying, "Whether this is right or wrong, the point is, there's a lot we don't know."
I think if you can get his wheels turning regarding the fact that the truth is far more removed from his reality than he thinks, it might get him to ask questions and begin to follow the Path of the Anon.
Good luck. Glad he has you to care about him.
Possible asset I agree. Some of the opposition is of good heart. Communist have learned that once they are victorious they must immediately cull out their strongest supporters (thinking of your friend here) because once they see what it’s really about the new “ dissident” will oppose them vigorously.
Now that I thought a little bit. This guy is so furious about what has happened to him and his family I feel like I need to say something to him or do something to calm him down. I don't know really. He has had his life ostensibly ruined by the powers that be.
If I have to give an answer I guess I want to help him get through this hard time.
That's generous of you, and I know he will appreciate it. Why don't you tell him what you just wrote, above? Let him know you and he are on the same team, and that his kiddos need him to channel that angry energy in ways that make a difference but that don't land him in jail or worse. Tell him it will take time... explain the stages of grief... let him know that you really want to help him. Building a foundation of trust will position you to help him in ways you don't see, yet. That's my two cents.
As much as this may or may not work based on his views. God. It’s the only answer that is gonna bring him peace of mind.
Its okay to smile and listen to his ideas. I have lots of these friends - I don’t step in and tell them what I see happening, I wait for them to ask me. Its okay to let them believe incorrectly - I believe they will come too.