Whoa!!!! I work with many of these victims here in my commie state. They drank the fear koolaid. They believe the lies. Many are so hopped up and anxious that anything their pediatricians offer them as a safety shield, be it advising masks, tests, jabs, etc. aren’t available soon enough to help them sleep at night. They are full of fear, confusion, guilt and anger. The psychopathic cabal is masterminding a game of psychological twister. The media spins and the obedient contort.
I get the OP is directed at what I suspect are quite possibly paid influencers, shills and bots plastering their fake personal lives on social media. And there are also the ridiculously haughty attempting to escape their own bs thru seeking out a pathetic echo chamber. It’s sad.
I think we can easily get caught up in blaming the victims for being victims. All I see are trauma induced fear responses. Honestly though, ask yourself how much did people around you comply with after 9/11? Freaking X-rayed at the airport, shoes off, and throwing out bottles of water because TSA bullies said so. They purposely trained people to comply. Until DJT, I had no idea we would organize, plan and fight!
This is a long train of globally coordinated manipulations and assaults. Their slow moving demoralization program was insidious, pervasive and repetitive. They had the best tech, tapped trillions of dollars while employing geniuses...and brandons. 🤣They worked to weaken us in multiple ways.
Right now, there’s no greater satisfaction to be had than waking up anyone We can. WWG1WGA, riiight???!!!
Frankly I’m alittle scared to think of the work ahead when those that demanded their loved ones get vaxxed begin to suffer and rage. I’m angry I can’t save them all!
Here we are. We resisted and found this forum to learn from, to support eachother. I eat humble pie seeing all you autists and fags blow my mind. I live for the insight, the prayers, the humor. I constantly pray for patience and God’s Grace. I’m here to learn how to fight for humanity cause what else can I do with what I see! I’m here because you frens give me strength, hope and direction. Okay well, I needed to get this out. Thanks for the prompting...
I think Dexter with the People’s Court makes the point that the doctors advising and providing the injection are culpable in a court of law.
Parents, I think are a cross section of humanity. I see this WEF agenda as a war against humanity, therefore their minions are guilty of deception and devilry using those humanity were taught to trust, albeit blind trust is dangerous.
Parents, well even Killary is a parent... There is no immunity shield for the evil.
My point is I see the victimization of the parents who fail in doing the research to protect their own children. In CT, there’s so many followers, I see them daily. I know many of them as loving parents who believe they are protecting their kids from the deadly virus. I wanted to draw attention to them at least.
I get your point Tendie and I appreciate you very much!
The OP is posting - sorry to say this, rooftop - the subject title expresses an attitude with so little heart and so little compassion. In my unabashed view, the attitude expressed in that line knows nothing (well, almost nothing) about the heart of God.
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
Or let me put it another way: Let he who has never failed, throw failure in the face of others.
Are there people out there who are sinful in their pride? Sure.
I'm really disappointed. These types of posts get me down the most. I hate the disinfo, or lack of research, and sometimes the bickering, but the arrogant judgmental attitudes that some anons display are what saddens me in a way that the evil performed by others doesn't.
If anons who understand what is going on cannot have the heart to see the tragedy, to weep for the victims of the Cabal, then who can?
I hate it. I really, really hate it. So many normies are victims. Good people, trapped in a vicious plan to destroy them.
Instead of realizing "there, but for the grace of God, go I" and weeping in gratitude for having been guided to be awake, to understand and NOT fall victim to the Great Evil, some people just turn around and judge, in anger, or self-righteous myopia, seeing all the faults in others, instead of reflecting in humility and thereby learning to experience compassion.
To those who are given much, much will be required. To those who are given little, little will be required.
Because our pedes are family, one hopes, one prays that one's family will rise to a higher standard. Personally, I think God is deeply saddened and disappointed by some of the attitudes of those who think they know enough, are good enough, and righteous enough, to castiage and cast judgment.
I'll leave it there. Likely, my words will fall on deaf ears. But I wonder. How many tears have you shed, oh anon, for the suffering of our people, for the millions of innocent victims of the Cabal?
There is no greater pain a person can experience than to be the cause of the suffering of their child. That is, any person with a heart. While rooftop shouts in coldhearted judgment on parents who have fallen victim in this one, one can only suspect that she simply does not understand how much of a life of grief awaits those who find out that they were tricked into doing something they thought was good for their child, only to find out they are the instrument of their suffering.
I pray rooftop never experiences that grief. Or maybe in fact, she should. Maybe then she'll find some compassion through her own suffering.
I love seeing rooftops stuff and I admit I have a strong affection for our tendie, but nothing has felt as painful in my heart as much as this post, in a long time.
Thanks for replying, Rooftop. Maybe its foolish to attempt to share a sincere and heart-felt communication on an online forum.
"that just depends on if you're a narcissist or not." I think we'll have to agree to disagree.
Perhaps you are correct. Maybe I misread your intent, and the heart and attitude you were attempting to express. Maybe I misinterpreted it. I'm open to that possibility.
I don't know if there is any value in attempting to discuss the issues. Maybe we just see things too differently at this point. Which I would think is OK. At least, I tried sincerely express my mind to the person I was commenting to, and to be honest and open about it.
You know, after I posted my comment, I reflected on it a lot. And, to be perfectly honest, I experienced a sense of regret and a pang of judgment, too. Here I was talking about you being too harsh and hard of heart, but what about me? I tried to justify my criticism of you by appealing to my own feelings about the tragedies around us. As if my feelings about the situation trump yours or anyone else's. Physician, heal thyself.
I'm certainly not annoyed by your post - at least, I don't think so. But I will say that I feel the broken heart and agony of those who have acted in ignorance with their sincerity. It doesn't feel like you do (maybe you do, how would I know?). Anyway, that thought makes me sad.
"What would you have to say about republicans who didn't trust the shot...."
Is it my place to say anything about them? To condemn them? Is it somehow OUR job to judge and condemn them? To be honest, I don't really care about those that have actually sacrificed their children out of ego or selfishness or pride, or convenience. Why should I provide any portion of my heart to care about or be concerned about them. Can I change them? I fully agree with you (I think) that they will certainly face the consequences. I see suffering for them, although I certainly do not relish it.
What I DO care about is the parents who have agonized for months and years now, watching their children suffer in lockdowns (you know that I live in the MOST lockdown city on the planet, don't you? One cannot begin to describe the agony my whole society and people have been put through, prior even to the injections coming out.) Who may have taken the injections because they felt they had no choice and that it might help resolve the situation. Who, in their ignorance, have suffered. And those that, in ignorance, deceived by evil, have actually injected their children.
That's who I care about. The children, the parents. I do not care very much about those who acted from arrogance, selfishness or ego. As I already said, their suffering will be great. It will be what it is. But honestly, I do not give any space in my heart or mind dwelling on them, or their future.
Anyway, that's me. But let me share one or two thoughts here, honestly.
"Well the day of judgement IS at hand for these parents who you are making excuses for in sweeping generalizations like you know them and know their souls, which you don't."
I have to say, you've done me a great disservice. "making excuses for"? "Sweeping generalizations".
You say I'm making excuses for people. Your view. Let's disagree. I'm trying to understand, from God's viewpoint, who my people are.
Secondly, maybe I've misread you, but it seems like you are making sweeping generalizations. UNless I was inarticulate, I wrote, and intended to experss the view, that while SOME have surely acted from ego and selfishness, I know of many who have not, and I also believe that there are also many who have not. So I'm not going to condemn all as if they are one and only one. Don't you think that you made a massive sweeping generalization when you condemned ALL parents in your post, regardless? Did I misread you?
Finally, I mean, let's be real. How do you know what I do or don't know people and their souls, or their hearts? You don't know, do you? Or do you?
But even so, I mean, do YOU know about all the parents you have made sweeping statements about, and the content of their souls? I mean, asking for a fren. Because that is exactly what your post seems to say. Perhaps I'm just misreading it. After all, <fact> text is VERY limited in how much meaning it conveys.
Before I conclude, let me say this: I feel no animosity or annoyance towards you, or towards the preacher shouting out "repent". Indeed, we need that. Heck, we should be saying that at the top of our voices. But is that what you intended to communicate, in your post? Maybe I was just having a bad day. I didn't really quite get that. (Were you attempting to inspire people to repent by telling them that they are screwed and their children will hate them?)
Also I think I've expressed my appreciation for your posts, your presence in the board community, and more. So, after this, I'll be moving on and I'll be holding no prejudices towards you or about you. I hope it will be likewise for you, but either way....
But let me conclude with this. When I was a young boy, I had visitations from Jesus, and from other saints. I felt the grieving heart of Christ, as he wept over humanity, who, in their sin and ignorance, are suffering under the devil's thralldom. I wept many tears as I experienced, was overwhelmed, by the grief and sorrow in Jesus' heart. I forgot those experiences until I re-encountered Jesus at the ripe old age of 18. (many years ago now).
And then, when I began to actually read through scripture and pray, as an adult, through conscious choice, I noticed how many parts of scripture described and conveyed Jesus sorrow and grief at the suffering of human beings.
When I was a child, I was taught about Jesus as if he is some sort of impervious wonderful king, a judge, some glorious, transcendent, unattached being, who only felt love, joy and happiness. As an adult, through really encountering Jesus, I recognized that, like a young child who doesn't really understand what his or her parents may be going through, I had been ignorant of Jesus all along.
In my experience, if one reads the gospels, paying attention to all the times that Jesus weeps, sheds tears, and what he expresses about how he feels (indirectly through his words), then one cannot but help encounter a different kind of Jesus to the one taught by well-meaning pastors and believers who have never considered how much a man of sorrow was our Lord. Yes, he is the Lord of Glory and Light, but he also bears the sins of the world, and more importantly, the suffering of the world, in his single perfect heart.
Anyway, that's my thought.
You are certainly correct about one thing. None of them, or us, can escape the consequences of our choices.
Thanks again for replying, sharing your views. I look forward to seeing more of your posts on the board. FI
Maybe. I'm not perfect. But perhaps you'll notice that the key point of my comment is to express how I feel about the post. Is that judgment?
Can you outline here where you think I've cast judgment on rooftop?
Aside from the point that I think Rooftop's reprimand/rebuke/reproving of parents who have 'injected their kids' is far too over-generalizing, factually, with regards to some parents, I think she is factually correct.
However, my reproach, if you want call it that, is a lament that rooftop's heart seems really quite hard. To me, anyway. On this point, too.
I also expressed my sincere admiration and even affection for Rooftop. How would you suggest I show compassion? I'm ALL ears. If I can learn though you, I want to.
I expressed disappointment. Is that judgment? I expressed heartache. Is that judgment? I expressed a view about how I think God sees a type of behavior. Is that judgment?
Perhaps judgment was the wrong word. She's not really judging them, except maybe in her heart. She's warning them, and reproaching them.
It's one thing to honestly share your heart; it's another thing to judge. To judgment involves condemnation.
Do I condemn Rooftop? (Question: Does she condemn the parents in this point?)
I'm fully open to reflection. But at some point, when you say you cannot offer your feelings or view on someone's actions because its judging, you establish a cycle that neutralizes any ability to feel, share and offer feedback.
Do I judge Rooftop for the post she made and how she framed her attitude? I'm certainly not condemning her. And, if I do judge, then yes, perhaps I'm at fault. How do you suggest that I express my feelings without "judging"?
I think you articulate some of the issues well; describing how the ego can attach to this or that emotion or thought, and use it as a pivot point.
"the devil wants god's children to turn on one another, its the oldest game he has ever played" This is something that the wisest of the wise remember. Divide and conquer is not merely a political ploy. It's the method of evil.
(For example, scripture explains that the serpent (the archangel Lucifer) first asked Eve "Did God say NNNN? It's not true. YYYY is true" those words had the primary single purpose of dividing Eve from her Father, by fermenting distrust and disbelief in Him. Divide, then conquer. The purpose of her faith in God and his command was to bind her to him during that period when she was vulnerable.)
I don't know that it couldn't have happened any other way. I'm not a fatalist in my faith or outlook. My faith conviction is that God's will manifests into reality based on the following formula:
God's portion of work (we'll call it God's "responsibility", which he takes on freely and with conscious choice) + the human portion of work (our responsibility, assigned to us by God, for our own benefit, for our growth, and so that we are co-creators with him) = fulfillment of God's will.
This is why history repeats, and the same patterns re-occur in history, and in scripture; because God sets up one person, or family, or people, or nation, to fulfill a certain role in His plan, and if that person, or family, or people, or nation, fails, God has to find someone else He can then set up to fulfill it. This happens again and again until the work has been done. When one person (or family, or people, or nation) fails his or her responsibility, another must eventually step up and resolve it. E.g. Adam's failure >>> resolved by Jesus. Abraham's failure (in the first offering) >>>> resolved by Isaac and Jacob. etc. NB: Parable of the vineyard: (Israel failed to recognize the Messiah, Jesus, so God established Christians as a world-level 'people' to do the job.)
Anyway, point is, I don't know if it HAD to be this way, but as you say, what has happened has happened, and attaching to that too much can lead the ego astray. I also believe that what we do today and tomorrow, can change the course of events. God is the great architect of our lives and the life of humanity, but we all have a role to play, too, to the best of our ability.
Your emphasis on love, compassion, and praying for healing are ... well, just great. When we practice such a heart, I believe GOd's heart is much comforted.
Whoa!!!! I work with many of these victims here in my commie state. They drank the fear koolaid. They believe the lies. Many are so hopped up and anxious that anything their pediatricians offer them as a safety shield, be it advising masks, tests, jabs, etc. aren’t available soon enough to help them sleep at night. They are full of fear, confusion, guilt and anger. The psychopathic cabal is masterminding a game of psychological twister. The media spins and the obedient contort.
I get the OP is directed at what I suspect are quite possibly paid influencers, shills and bots plastering their fake personal lives on social media. And there are also the ridiculously haughty attempting to escape their own bs thru seeking out a pathetic echo chamber. It’s sad.
I think we can easily get caught up in blaming the victims for being victims. All I see are trauma induced fear responses. Honestly though, ask yourself how much did people around you comply with after 9/11? Freaking X-rayed at the airport, shoes off, and throwing out bottles of water because TSA bullies said so. They purposely trained people to comply. Until DJT, I had no idea we would organize, plan and fight!
This is a long train of globally coordinated manipulations and assaults. Their slow moving demoralization program was insidious, pervasive and repetitive. They had the best tech, tapped trillions of dollars while employing geniuses...and brandons. 🤣They worked to weaken us in multiple ways.
Right now, there’s no greater satisfaction to be had than waking up anyone We can. WWG1WGA, riiight???!!!
Frankly I’m alittle scared to think of the work ahead when those that demanded their loved ones get vaxxed begin to suffer and rage. I’m angry I can’t save them all!
Here we are. We resisted and found this forum to learn from, to support eachother. I eat humble pie seeing all you autists and fags blow my mind. I live for the insight, the prayers, the humor. I constantly pray for patience and God’s Grace. I’m here to learn how to fight for humanity cause what else can I do with what I see! I’m here because you frens give me strength, hope and direction. Okay well, I needed to get this out. Thanks for the prompting...
This is a very important point to make.
I think Dexter with the People’s Court makes the point that the doctors advising and providing the injection are culpable in a court of law.
Parents, I think are a cross section of humanity. I see this WEF agenda as a war against humanity, therefore their minions are guilty of deception and devilry using those humanity were taught to trust, albeit blind trust is dangerous.
Parents, well even Killary is a parent... There is no immunity shield for the evil.
My point is I see the victimization of the parents who fail in doing the research to protect their own children. In CT, there’s so many followers, I see them daily. I know many of them as loving parents who believe they are protecting their kids from the deadly virus. I wanted to draw attention to them at least.
I get your point Tendie and I appreciate you very much!
Your words ring a lot of personal experience and pain. There is a lot of anger in there too.
I can sense an unbearable pain. I pray you get some healing with that.
Be well.
Thanks rooftop. Jeepers.
not even close.
Hey, that's awesome. Happy to be wrong. The comment was not meant as a slight, as a dig, or to be demaining. Just being sincere.
sorry that triggered you and hurt your feelings
No need to be snarky. (sounds like you.re being snarky) You did not trigger me or hurt my feelings. Why on earth would you say that??????
(Maybe it's foolish to attempt to share a sincere and heart-felt communication on an online forum. Oh well)
Anyway, happy to be the beneficiary of your prayers.
Thanks again. Let's move on, shall we?
And thank YOU for tapping these thoughts to text fren!
Damn, that's a good one! 😎
Your comment speaks to my heart.
The OP is posting - sorry to say this, rooftop - the subject title expresses an attitude with so little heart and so little compassion. In my unabashed view, the attitude expressed in that line knows nothing (well, almost nothing) about the heart of God.
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
Or let me put it another way: Let he who has never failed, throw failure in the face of others.
Are there people out there who are sinful in their pride? Sure.
I'm really disappointed. These types of posts get me down the most. I hate the disinfo, or lack of research, and sometimes the bickering, but the arrogant judgmental attitudes that some anons display are what saddens me in a way that the evil performed by others doesn't.
If anons who understand what is going on cannot have the heart to see the tragedy, to weep for the victims of the Cabal, then who can?
I hate it. I really, really hate it. So many normies are victims. Good people, trapped in a vicious plan to destroy them.
Instead of realizing "there, but for the grace of God, go I" and weeping in gratitude for having been guided to be awake, to understand and NOT fall victim to the Great Evil, some people just turn around and judge, in anger, or self-righteous myopia, seeing all the faults in others, instead of reflecting in humility and thereby learning to experience compassion.
To those who are given much, much will be required. To those who are given little, little will be required.
Because our pedes are family, one hopes, one prays that one's family will rise to a higher standard. Personally, I think God is deeply saddened and disappointed by some of the attitudes of those who think they know enough, are good enough, and righteous enough, to castiage and cast judgment.
I'll leave it there. Likely, my words will fall on deaf ears. But I wonder. How many tears have you shed, oh anon, for the suffering of our people, for the millions of innocent victims of the Cabal?
There is no greater pain a person can experience than to be the cause of the suffering of their child. That is, any person with a heart. While rooftop shouts in coldhearted judgment on parents who have fallen victim in this one, one can only suspect that she simply does not understand how much of a life of grief awaits those who find out that they were tricked into doing something they thought was good for their child, only to find out they are the instrument of their suffering.
I pray rooftop never experiences that grief. Or maybe in fact, she should. Maybe then she'll find some compassion through her own suffering.
I love seeing rooftops stuff and I admit I have a strong affection for our tendie, but nothing has felt as painful in my heart as much as this post, in a long time.
u/rooftoptendie
Thanks for replying, Rooftop. Maybe its foolish to attempt to share a sincere and heart-felt communication on an online forum.
"that just depends on if you're a narcissist or not." I think we'll have to agree to disagree.
Perhaps you are correct. Maybe I misread your intent, and the heart and attitude you were attempting to express. Maybe I misinterpreted it. I'm open to that possibility.
I don't know if there is any value in attempting to discuss the issues. Maybe we just see things too differently at this point. Which I would think is OK. At least, I tried sincerely express my mind to the person I was commenting to, and to be honest and open about it.
You know, after I posted my comment, I reflected on it a lot. And, to be perfectly honest, I experienced a sense of regret and a pang of judgment, too. Here I was talking about you being too harsh and hard of heart, but what about me? I tried to justify my criticism of you by appealing to my own feelings about the tragedies around us. As if my feelings about the situation trump yours or anyone else's. Physician, heal thyself.
I'm certainly not annoyed by your post - at least, I don't think so. But I will say that I feel the broken heart and agony of those who have acted in ignorance with their sincerity. It doesn't feel like you do (maybe you do, how would I know?). Anyway, that thought makes me sad.
"What would you have to say about republicans who didn't trust the shot...."
Is it my place to say anything about them? To condemn them? Is it somehow OUR job to judge and condemn them? To be honest, I don't really care about those that have actually sacrificed their children out of ego or selfishness or pride, or convenience. Why should I provide any portion of my heart to care about or be concerned about them. Can I change them? I fully agree with you (I think) that they will certainly face the consequences. I see suffering for them, although I certainly do not relish it.
What I DO care about is the parents who have agonized for months and years now, watching their children suffer in lockdowns (you know that I live in the MOST lockdown city on the planet, don't you? One cannot begin to describe the agony my whole society and people have been put through, prior even to the injections coming out.) Who may have taken the injections because they felt they had no choice and that it might help resolve the situation. Who, in their ignorance, have suffered. And those that, in ignorance, deceived by evil, have actually injected their children.
That's who I care about. The children, the parents. I do not care very much about those who acted from arrogance, selfishness or ego. As I already said, their suffering will be great. It will be what it is. But honestly, I do not give any space in my heart or mind dwelling on them, or their future.
Anyway, that's me. But let me share one or two thoughts here, honestly.
"Well the day of judgement IS at hand for these parents who you are making excuses for in sweeping generalizations like you know them and know their souls, which you don't."
I have to say, you've done me a great disservice. "making excuses for"? "Sweeping generalizations".
You say I'm making excuses for people. Your view. Let's disagree. I'm trying to understand, from God's viewpoint, who my people are.
Secondly, maybe I've misread you, but it seems like you are making sweeping generalizations. UNless I was inarticulate, I wrote, and intended to experss the view, that while SOME have surely acted from ego and selfishness, I know of many who have not, and I also believe that there are also many who have not. So I'm not going to condemn all as if they are one and only one. Don't you think that you made a massive sweeping generalization when you condemned ALL parents in your post, regardless? Did I misread you?
Finally, I mean, let's be real. How do you know what I do or don't know people and their souls, or their hearts? You don't know, do you? Or do you?
But even so, I mean, do YOU know about all the parents you have made sweeping statements about, and the content of their souls? I mean, asking for a fren. Because that is exactly what your post seems to say. Perhaps I'm just misreading it. After all, <fact> text is VERY limited in how much meaning it conveys.
Before I conclude, let me say this: I feel no animosity or annoyance towards you, or towards the preacher shouting out "repent". Indeed, we need that. Heck, we should be saying that at the top of our voices. But is that what you intended to communicate, in your post? Maybe I was just having a bad day. I didn't really quite get that. (Were you attempting to inspire people to repent by telling them that they are screwed and their children will hate them?)
Also I think I've expressed my appreciation for your posts, your presence in the board community, and more. So, after this, I'll be moving on and I'll be holding no prejudices towards you or about you. I hope it will be likewise for you, but either way....
But let me conclude with this. When I was a young boy, I had visitations from Jesus, and from other saints. I felt the grieving heart of Christ, as he wept over humanity, who, in their sin and ignorance, are suffering under the devil's thralldom. I wept many tears as I experienced, was overwhelmed, by the grief and sorrow in Jesus' heart. I forgot those experiences until I re-encountered Jesus at the ripe old age of 18. (many years ago now).
And then, when I began to actually read through scripture and pray, as an adult, through conscious choice, I noticed how many parts of scripture described and conveyed Jesus sorrow and grief at the suffering of human beings.
When I was a child, I was taught about Jesus as if he is some sort of impervious wonderful king, a judge, some glorious, transcendent, unattached being, who only felt love, joy and happiness. As an adult, through really encountering Jesus, I recognized that, like a young child who doesn't really understand what his or her parents may be going through, I had been ignorant of Jesus all along.
In my experience, if one reads the gospels, paying attention to all the times that Jesus weeps, sheds tears, and what he expresses about how he feels (indirectly through his words), then one cannot but help encounter a different kind of Jesus to the one taught by well-meaning pastors and believers who have never considered how much a man of sorrow was our Lord. Yes, he is the Lord of Glory and Light, but he also bears the sins of the world, and more importantly, the suffering of the world, in his single perfect heart.
Anyway, that's my thought.
You are certainly correct about one thing. None of them, or us, can escape the consequences of our choices.
Thanks again for replying, sharing your views. I look forward to seeing more of your posts on the board. FI
--Complains about rooftop not having compassion and judgement.
--Does not have compassion and passes judgement on rooftop.
Think mirror?
Maybe. I'm not perfect. But perhaps you'll notice that the key point of my comment is to express how I feel about the post. Is that judgment?
Can you outline here where you think I've cast judgment on rooftop?
Aside from the point that I think Rooftop's reprimand/rebuke/reproving of parents who have 'injected their kids' is far too over-generalizing, factually, with regards to some parents, I think she is factually correct.
However, my reproach, if you want call it that, is a lament that rooftop's heart seems really quite hard. To me, anyway. On this point, too.
I also expressed my sincere admiration and even affection for Rooftop. How would you suggest I show compassion? I'm ALL ears. If I can learn though you, I want to.
I expressed disappointment. Is that judgment? I expressed heartache. Is that judgment? I expressed a view about how I think God sees a type of behavior. Is that judgment?
Perhaps judgment was the wrong word. She's not really judging them, except maybe in her heart. She's warning them, and reproaching them.
It's one thing to honestly share your heart; it's another thing to judge. To judgment involves condemnation.
Do I condemn Rooftop? (Question: Does she condemn the parents in this point?)
I'm fully open to reflection. But at some point, when you say you cannot offer your feelings or view on someone's actions because its judging, you establish a cycle that neutralizes any ability to feel, share and offer feedback.
Do I judge Rooftop for the post she made and how she framed her attitude? I'm certainly not condemning her. And, if I do judge, then yes, perhaps I'm at fault. How do you suggest that I express my feelings without "judging"?
Thanks for your moving reply.
I think you articulate some of the issues well; describing how the ego can attach to this or that emotion or thought, and use it as a pivot point.
"the devil wants god's children to turn on one another, its the oldest game he has ever played" This is something that the wisest of the wise remember. Divide and conquer is not merely a political ploy. It's the method of evil.
(For example, scripture explains that the serpent (the archangel Lucifer) first asked Eve "Did God say NNNN? It's not true. YYYY is true" those words had the primary single purpose of dividing Eve from her Father, by fermenting distrust and disbelief in Him. Divide, then conquer. The purpose of her faith in God and his command was to bind her to him during that period when she was vulnerable.)
I don't know that it couldn't have happened any other way. I'm not a fatalist in my faith or outlook. My faith conviction is that God's will manifests into reality based on the following formula:
God's portion of work (we'll call it God's "responsibility", which he takes on freely and with conscious choice) + the human portion of work (our responsibility, assigned to us by God, for our own benefit, for our growth, and so that we are co-creators with him) = fulfillment of God's will.
This is why history repeats, and the same patterns re-occur in history, and in scripture; because God sets up one person, or family, or people, or nation, to fulfill a certain role in His plan, and if that person, or family, or people, or nation, fails, God has to find someone else He can then set up to fulfill it. This happens again and again until the work has been done. When one person (or family, or people, or nation) fails his or her responsibility, another must eventually step up and resolve it. E.g. Adam's failure >>> resolved by Jesus. Abraham's failure (in the first offering) >>>> resolved by Isaac and Jacob. etc. NB: Parable of the vineyard: (Israel failed to recognize the Messiah, Jesus, so God established Christians as a world-level 'people' to do the job.)
Anyway, point is, I don't know if it HAD to be this way, but as you say, what has happened has happened, and attaching to that too much can lead the ego astray. I also believe that what we do today and tomorrow, can change the course of events. God is the great architect of our lives and the life of humanity, but we all have a role to play, too, to the best of our ability.
Your emphasis on love, compassion, and praying for healing are ... well, just great. When we practice such a heart, I believe GOd's heart is much comforted.
Thank you very much for your comment.