I KNOW we’ve hammered the Vaxx thing to death here, but this is beyond death imo?! So you think these “Drs” are just “doing their job”? Or maybe “they didn’t know”? I’m calling BULLSHIT…they effin KNOW and are CULPABLE!!! May they hang by their stethoscopes.
Not all doctors are bad. Don’t lump them all in. My own doctors office did not mandate their workers to get jabbed. One of the nurses there is unjabbed and awake. She told me they have many jabbed damaged patients coming into their office for help.
Well, cursory research is showing every liberal news outlet who reviewed it saying fact-check false”. Quote from Austin American Statesman (read into wordage);
"Every (Blue Cross Blue Shield) company sets its own value-based contracts with local providers," said a Blue Cross Blue Shield spokesperson. "The purpose of any performance-based incentives, where they exist, is to reward implementation of well-established evidence-based best practices in the care of our members. While vaccinations may fall into that category, they would not be the sole performance measure. Any incentives cover a broad collection of best practices. Blue Cross Blue Shield chief medical officer Vincent Nelson told Lead Stories, "Physicians (and) providers can be incentivized through their work with independent Blue Cross and Blue Shield companies, but the implication in this post that physicians (and) providers pursue childhood vaccinations solely for financial reasons is false.">
HOWEVER, Children’s Health Defense basically says there’s TRUTH to it;
A widely reported example of this type of pay-for-performance model is the Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan “Performance Recognition Program,” which uses “meaningful” payments to reward Blue Care Network (BCN) health maintenance organization (HMO) providers “who encourage their patients to get preventive screenings and procedures.” For vaccination, providers receive $400 for each eligible two-year-old who has received all 24-25 vaccines shown below, but only if the provider manages to administer each and every shot to at least 63% of his or her patients. Thus, there is a formidable incentive not to let any patients slip through the cracks>
Whether it's from the MSM or from the CHD, it's still second-hand reporting on something that should have a primary document available. If this program is part of a conspiracy to push the COVID vaccine, there should be some sort of a contract established with every doctor participating in this program. BCBS is an ENORMOUS organization and the insurance companies within it are accepted by hundreds of thousands of physicians.
Not sure this document is what you think it is.
The "Performance Recognition Program" existed well before COVID (the document cited in your source is from 2016).
Vaccination is not the sole basis upon which doctors are reimbursed under this specific program. It involves a lot of preventative medicine stuff, which includes mammograms and hypertension checks (all listed in the sourced document). And again, this program has existed long before COVID: vaccination has been a staple of preventative medicine since its invention.
There is a HUGE profit incentive for insurance companies to reward preventative medicine. It costs WAY LESS to fund a patient's mammogram than to fund their cancer treatment. It costs WAY LESS to do basic hypertension checks than to pay for a damaged heart. It costs WAY LESS to pay for a MMR vaccine than it does to pay for a measles outbreak.
Insurance companies have very non-altrustic and non-conspiratorial reasons to be funding preventative medicine, and while I know how this board feels about the COVID vaccine, vaccinations in general are not really considered controversial by medical experts, and so nobody is going to react with alarm at a story that insurance companies, since before COVID, incentivize doctors to keep patients from getting expensively sick.
I understand your argument, but nothing I can find documented about this situation is going to cause alarm, because nothing here seems to be reacting to COVID (since it existed before COVID) nor establishes any behavior by doctors or insurance people that shows them acting in a way not recommended by BOTH medical necessity AND capitalistic profitability.
Frustratingly, those things sometimes go hand in hand.
The reason i'm asking for undeniable proof is my wife is in health care and doesn't believe anything i tell her cause she is brainwashed by the lies they pump in her smooth brain.
Just…wow. I’m helping my neighbor now get through her cancer treatments and every time we walk into the hospital I feel the evil. Dunno how to describe it in words, it just feels all wrong. Sucks when this war hits home?
I’d be curious too. BCBS isn’t really a formal insurance company so much as an association of independent insurance providers. I suppose it’s possible that they compelled all insurance companies for all 50 states to adopt this alleged incentive program, but that’d be both weird and documented. Insurance companies tend to be the ones offering incentives, and BCBS is not an insurance company.
Which is why the source would be informative here. This sort of deal would be in a contract, and if that contract is being distributed to every doctor accepting BCBS insurance, then the contract should be attached to this post.
We need to start completely over in the health care system...I truly don't think the one we have is worth salvaging.....it has become too infested with liars and thieves.....
Absolutely, the whole healthcare industry is rotten to the core! They are now trying to allow partial-birth abortions... Their logic; "deliver foot first, and kill the baby before it can draw its first breath while its head is still in birth canal" sick fuckers! Wouldn't be surprised if all the push for abortion is used for collecting tissue cells, like they push for circumcisions. Also there's tons of stuff they can use umbilical cords for
This is what we need to start doing every time your doctors office pushes for a vaccine; ask them if they’re getting paid to get a certain percentage of the population vaccinated or how much they’re getting paid per vaccine. We need to call these doctors out. Imagine if every day you came into work and you try to push a vaccine on someone and your patients questioned your morals day after day after day.
I'd like real sauce as well. I wouldn't be surprised though. I just pulled my 16 yo daughter out from her pediatricians practice to a based family doctor who is even going to give her a medical exemption from the jab so she can still work as a CNA. Pediatrician was CONSTANTLY pushing vaccines. So much so, I told the staff to put in bold on her file.. NO VACCINES... don't even ask! But, she always did anyway. Bye, bye!
Well, if the doctors are successful and there are massive amounts of vaccine injury as a result...do the insurance companies take a financial hit paying out medical coverage? Or is there some built in mechanism that guarantees profit no matter what?
Oh, okay. I was more referring to the vax side effects that they deny are from the vax. Cardiac, neuro, etc etc. You can easily end up with catastrophic medical bills if your child is hospitalized with those issues. And you know they won't ever admit it's from the vaccine. So the insurance company gets hit with their share of the bills. Maybe I'm not awake enough yet (worked 12 hours overnight) but it seems stupid to pay push a vaccine that stands to end up costing more in insurance payout.
I KNOW we’ve hammered the Vaxx thing to death here, but this is beyond death imo?! So you think these “Drs” are just “doing their job”? Or maybe “they didn’t know”? I’m calling BULLSHIT…they effin KNOW and are CULPABLE!!! May they hang by their stethoscopes.
Dr error is the #3 cause of death in US.
of course they know
This really pissed me off when I first read it. 😡
Just “doing their job.”
“There was a lotta that at Nuremberg” ~ Tony Soprano
This REALLY pisses me off!
Not all doctors are bad. Don’t lump them all in. My own doctors office did not mandate their workers to get jabbed. One of the nurses there is unjabbed and awake. She told me they have many jabbed damaged patients coming into their office for help.
Sauce???
Like actual legit sauce.. indisputable leak type sauce
What I found below 👇🏼
Well, cursory research is showing every liberal news outlet who reviewed it saying fact-check false”. Quote from Austin American Statesman (read into wordage);
HOWEVER, Children’s Health Defense basically says there’s TRUTH to it;
I trust them over any liberal rag, or healthcare review; https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/incentivizing-pediatricians-to-be-vaccine-bullies/
Whether it's from the MSM or from the CHD, it's still second-hand reporting on something that should have a primary document available. If this program is part of a conspiracy to push the COVID vaccine, there should be some sort of a contract established with every doctor participating in this program. BCBS is an ENORMOUS organization and the insurance companies within it are accepted by hundreds of thousands of physicians.
Not sure this document is what you think it is.
The "Performance Recognition Program" existed well before COVID (the document cited in your source is from 2016).
http://www.whale.to/c/2016-BCN-BCBSM-Incentive-Program-Booklet.pdf
Vaccination is not the sole basis upon which doctors are reimbursed under this specific program. It involves a lot of preventative medicine stuff, which includes mammograms and hypertension checks (all listed in the sourced document). And again, this program has existed long before COVID: vaccination has been a staple of preventative medicine since its invention.
There is a HUGE profit incentive for insurance companies to reward preventative medicine. It costs WAY LESS to fund a patient's mammogram than to fund their cancer treatment. It costs WAY LESS to do basic hypertension checks than to pay for a damaged heart. It costs WAY LESS to pay for a MMR vaccine than it does to pay for a measles outbreak.
Insurance companies have very non-altrustic and non-conspiratorial reasons to be funding preventative medicine, and while I know how this board feels about the COVID vaccine, vaccinations in general are not really considered controversial by medical experts, and so nobody is going to react with alarm at a story that insurance companies, since before COVID, incentivize doctors to keep patients from getting expensively sick.
I understand your argument, but nothing I can find documented about this situation is going to cause alarm, because nothing here seems to be reacting to COVID (since it existed before COVID) nor establishes any behavior by doctors or insurance people that shows them acting in a way not recommended by BOTH medical necessity AND capitalistic profitability.
Frustratingly, those things sometimes go hand in hand.
I deleted the post because I couldn’t find enough sauce. TY for your extra effort in explaining!
Of course. That’s why we’re all here.
The reason i'm asking for undeniable proof is my wife is in health care and doesn't believe anything i tell her cause she is brainwashed by the lies they pump in her smooth brain.
Just…wow. I’m helping my neighbor now get through her cancer treatments and every time we walk into the hospital I feel the evil. Dunno how to describe it in words, it just feels all wrong. Sucks when this war hits home?
I’d be curious too. BCBS isn’t really a formal insurance company so much as an association of independent insurance providers. I suppose it’s possible that they compelled all insurance companies for all 50 states to adopt this alleged incentive program, but that’d be both weird and documented. Insurance companies tend to be the ones offering incentives, and BCBS is not an insurance company.
Which is why the source would be informative here. This sort of deal would be in a contract, and if that contract is being distributed to every doctor accepting BCBS insurance, then the contract should be attached to this post.
What I found below 👇🏼
Yeah. This is pretty big news if true.
What I found below 👇🏼
We need to start completely over in the health care system...I truly don't think the one we have is worth salvaging.....it has become too infested with liars and thieves.....
Absolutely, the whole healthcare industry is rotten to the core! They are now trying to allow partial-birth abortions... Their logic; "deliver foot first, and kill the baby before it can draw its first breath while its head is still in birth canal" sick fuckers! Wouldn't be surprised if all the push for abortion is used for collecting tissue cells, like they push for circumcisions. Also there's tons of stuff they can use umbilical cords for
I don’t disagree.
The Hippocratic Oath is mostly dead I fear?
This is what we need to start doing every time your doctors office pushes for a vaccine; ask them if they’re getting paid to get a certain percentage of the population vaccinated or how much they’re getting paid per vaccine. We need to call these doctors out. Imagine if every day you came into work and you try to push a vaccine on someone and your patients questioned your morals day after day after day.
Sick Fux time is growing short for them all.
Q said follow the money. Doctors, nurses, hospitals = the new killing fields.
Bbuttt…they’re “heroes”?!!
I'd like real sauce as well. I wouldn't be surprised though. I just pulled my 16 yo daughter out from her pediatricians practice to a based family doctor who is even going to give her a medical exemption from the jab so she can still work as a CNA. Pediatrician was CONSTANTLY pushing vaccines. So much so, I told the staff to put in bold on her file.. NO VACCINES... don't even ask! But, she always did anyway. Bye, bye!
What I found I posted above responding to u/PeaceAndLovePatriot
I responded in DM as to why I did delete it.
I love this guide. Lots to glean.
https://vaccine.guide/
THANKS!!! 👍🏽
I’m switching my Dr now as well…I’ll drive further for real health “care”.
Absolute nightmare from hell.
Well, if the doctors are successful and there are massive amounts of vaccine injury as a result...do the insurance companies take a financial hit paying out medical coverage? Or is there some built in mechanism that guarantees profit no matter what?
Oh, okay. I was more referring to the vax side effects that they deny are from the vax. Cardiac, neuro, etc etc. You can easily end up with catastrophic medical bills if your child is hospitalized with those issues. And you know they won't ever admit it's from the vaccine. So the insurance company gets hit with their share of the bills. Maybe I'm not awake enough yet (worked 12 hours overnight) but it seems stupid to pay push a vaccine that stands to end up costing more in insurance payout.
WOW.