Incorrect! Four months ago (December), my very fit, UNVACCINATED extremely buff 6-day-a-week weight-lifting, running and training athlete son (31 yrs old) who was living his best life and burning the candle at both ends got very sick with high fever, sweating, coughing, and dropping oxygen levels. I am a rabid researcher on all things COVID, and had all supplies available. He already had his own Pulse Oximeter that he bought on my advice.
So, immediately upon first symptoms he began the whole Ivermectin + D3, Quercetin, Vit C, Zinc, NAC, hot tea, soups for 5 days straight, but he was not getting better. His fever kept returning and his coughing was continuous. We were strongly in favor of at-home treatment.
Luckily, we have a doctor friend who agreed to prescribe steroids and a prescription cough medicine to help him stop the constant cough and had a portable oxygen unit delivered. We continued with the Ivermectin + vitamin protocol + chlorella + black tea + chicken broth. We made him take a daily aspirin and use a flutter valve to exercise his lungs. We also made him sleep prone.
He still didn't improve. We got a mobile medical nurse to come to his home and put him on a a super-potent Vit C & other vitamin combination IV drip and were able to obtain an IV drip with the Monoclonal Antibodies. No improvement!
After two weeks, I asked the doctor to write an order for a D-Dimer test because I thought that blood clot formation had to be behind his constant, unproductive dry coughing.
The D-Dimer number came back at 1,125. The doctor was horrified. He said he'd never seen it that high, especially in a healthy no-comorbidity, young patient. He immediately sent him for an lung X-ray and CT scan to check for clots and put him on Eliquis which is an anti-coagulant. The D-Dimer number meant he was building all kinds of clots. The doc then added an antibiotic and after a few days of being on that blood thinner, my son finally began to improve. By the end of December, he finally pulled out of it, but had to stay on the blood thinner for 6 weeks. I tell you, that was a scary time.
No, he absolutely is not. I've pounded that in his head well enough. But it's possible he got it from a recently boosted viral shedder. That's what happened to my husband a year ago (also unvaxxed) who went to lunch with his sister who'd just flown in town and had been vaccinated a week before. He got so sick and everything I did to help him wasn't enough. He did have to go to the hospital and he too had elevated D-Dimer (that's how I learned about the test). But his D-Dimer number never went above 400. Husband on the other hand, has several co-morbidities so he was at a high risk.
I tell you, with all of my research and supplies, the fact that my husband got sick and the home treatment still was just not enough really shook me. Luckily, he is fully recovered, but not quite back to his previous.
Thanks for that, and as somebody who has had 3 blood clots, one was PE I am well aware they happen. Mine happened through paralysis due to a complete burst fracture of my L2 vertebrae. Yes Eliquis is the current blood thinner that holds the required INR level.
But when you look at the statistics, just like the other common adverse reactions, blood clots have climbed to huge levels AFTER injection.
Was the blood clot from the incessant coughing which caused a bleed?
The reason for the clot development is that the virus attacks the heme in the blood cells, rendering them unable to carry the required oxygen. The lungs become distressed and become inflamed because they think they are falling down on the job and start working harder, but it doesn't help. This will trigger the cough reflex.
Additionally, the vascular system realizes something is wrong because not enough oxygen is being delivered. Its response is to assume the body is wounded and has a bleed. So, it makes more red blood cells and sends out clotting factor (fibrin) to plug the leak, wherever it is. But there is no wound, there is no leak. All these extra red blood cells get attacked by the virus and they, too cannot carry enough oxygen.
So, the combination of too many damaged blood cells packed in the veins along with too much fibrin starts to create these tiny micro clots (microthrombosis). They won't show up on an x-ray or CT scan until they get big. But enough of them will do you in.
Currently, the only thing that will confirm their development is the D-Dimer test. The higher the number, the more clots you have.
Thus, the cough won't go away until the lungs are allowed to relax. The lungs won't relax until the blood starts carrying more oxygen. Some relief can be gained with supplemental oxygen coupled with the steroids.
The solution was to try and stop the virus with Ivermectin + vitamins, and assist the body with oxygen, antibiotics, and anti-coagulants until his body could get a handle on the situation.
With all due respect to u/casuallyobservant, there is an additional and possibly more direct explanation for the clotting. The spike protein seeks cells with the ACE-2 receptor to infect. Those cells, found throughout the body, are primarily in endothelial cells, which are the cells that line the interior of the blood vessels, i.e. the veins and arteries. When these cells are damaged it usually signifies a broken blood vessel that requires clotting in order to stop a person from losing blood; in the case of Covid the cells are damaged from within, which still triggers the clotting but now the clotting factor is released within the blood stream rather than forming a scab outside the blood vessel. Worse, the clot-attracting blood is now circulating along with the virus to potentially lodge anywhere throughout the circulatory system. I've seen this explained in a number of places, but medcram.org has some of the best explanations.
It also affects heme directly, which is why different blood types are affected differently (apparently O is slightly better), but I know hemotologists who don't agree, and I haven't seen agreement on this, while the endothelial damage is much more evident. For what its worth.
You are correct. I failed to mention the damage to the endothelium that also occurs. Those videos I've seen where the microscopic examination of the blood cells shows such horrible damage to the cells themselves is appalling. Then, coupled with the damage to the lining in all of the pathways that carry the blood is a tragedy.
Thanks for clarifying further what I was attempting to explain.
Congrats on saving your son. It is scary. It's good the doctor was open to your suggestion of the d-dimer test, and had appropriate treatments. For future reference, and possibly for other people, you may want to be aware of a much simpler treatment against the infection- nebulized hydrogen peroxide. https://www.spiritofchange.org/nebulized-peroxide-a-simple-remedy-for-covid-19/
It is very inexpensive and easy to do, and in my opinion may have saved him sooner, while saving you all a lot of stress and time. If his distress returns, like long Covid, it may be useful to include. Hopefully it won't return.
Thank you. I had actually read about this treatment but had not obtained one yet when all this was happening. But, since then, my daughter ordered two different nebulizers online for this very purpose, but said neither worked right, so she returned them both.
I agree it sounds like a very good idea and would like to have one that works because it does make sense to try this.
If you've used one with success, can you share the brand name of the device so I can order one and have a good one in my arsenal for next time??
Yes, tell me about it. I had bought the horsey paste for my whole family back in January of 2021.
I bought a 6 month supply for us all to take every week or so. We also all bought pulse oximeters and the whole vitamin protocol. Everyone was fully versed on what to do and how to do it.
I've been being vigilant, as has my daughter, but both my husband and my son stopped taking it for a while (and didn't tell me). Son has his own place, so I couldn't monitor what he'd been doing.
So, my son told me he had been taking it for close to 10 months every 10 days or so, but admitted that he had stopped back in November because he figured he was immune since he'd managed to stay super healthy with all of his activities. How wrong he was.
Thank you for that. He appears to be. I want him to have another D-Dimer test to confirm nothing more is happening, but he doesn't want to do it because he is feeling fine and wishes to believe he's fine and therefore chooses to not 'worry' about it.
So many people seem fine, but then keel over suddenly. All I can do is pray.
The coof definitely gives blood clots. That's the underlying cause behind low oxygen at extremities (detected by pulsometer) and Covid toes. It is also why, in the early days of Covid, people would get cured of the virus and discharged from the hospital, only to die of a heart attack or stroke within days. There are all sorts of reports of difficulty with IVs because of the clotting. That mostly stopped when they started using warfarin, a prescription drug thinner, on both inpatient and discharged patients. Clotting is also the cause of the permanent lung and heart damage from Covid. NAC is a non-prescription blood thinner, and this is one reason so many people recommend NAC, although it also works against Covid's infection vector. Medcram.org has a lot of proof and very good explanations for anyone who wants to research.
Of course the vax causes the same thing, because it is the same thing, administered in greater concentration.
Is that why then some Dr's used Viagra early on and found improvement, because it allowed better blood flow and hence more oxygen to the brain and other organs?
Yeah, it is. The honest doctors were trying to figure out how the body was oxygen deprived despite the ventilators, and viagra is one thing that helped, and it was readily available and included in the hospital's approved medicine list. It's also why ECMOs (think dialysis, but for infusing air into the blood instead of filtering it) worked better than ventilators.
Thanks, yes I listened to Dr's talking about how they had some success with Viagra, the thinking was in the early days that this was more like hypoxia because as you say despite ventilators the oxygen levels would decline, and opening up blood flow seemed to correct some of this.
Hadn't heard about ECMOs but yes also makes sense.
I understand your confusion. BUT PLEASE READ THIS LONG RESPONSE:
There have always been viruses and bacteria out there that people caught. Think of it: Influenza A & B, Pneumonia, strep throat, bronchitis, mononucleosis, myriad other infections, the common cold and what not.
But HERE IS WHERE THE CONSPIRACY EXISTS: Today, if someone gets 'something/anything' the doctor and the hospitals are HUGELY financially incentivized to respond with, "tested positive for COVID", and treat with a restricted protocol that eliminates the majority of useful medicines. They call it COVID and ONLY treat it with an antagonist drug by the name of REMDESIVIR that increases mortality, barring any and all other useful drugs, and barring the patients' families from being with them and visiting them to see what is being done to them. The patient often gets worse and dies from this wrong treatment or is left with major organ damage from the Remdesivir. That is why those of us who are in the know treat the patient at home with the proper stuff and/or utilize an MD friend who will treat outside the box.
As we've seen, there is clearly a group of people who have planned this and are enacting a scenario designed to make lots of people sick and lots of people dead. They are doing 'whatever it takes' to make that happen.
BUT THERE IS MUCH MORE TO THIS STORY...
In Aug/Sept of 2019, the west coast was seeing a bunch of young people fall ill with a strange sickness that was attacking their lungs. It was killing them. They didn't know what it was. The commonality was they were all vape pen users. When I read about that, I did some deep dives and found that the US major manufacturer of vape pens was suing a number of Chinese companies who were selling very identical-looking 'dupes' of their pens at half price in the market. My suspicion was that the knockoff vape pens were laced with the early virus and were killing the youths on the west coast, hoping to spread 'it' covertly.
AND THEN, a few months later...
In late November 2019, there were a number of 'mystery drone sightings' of large groups of drones flying in formation (some said as many as 150 together) that flew over about 6 midwestern states during the Thanksgiving holiday time frame. The farmers and cattle ranchers were alarmed and alerted their local sheriffs, the FBI, Homeland security etc. No one could identify the owners of the drones, no one took credit for the drones. This also happened to some of our military ships at sea. The 'drones' were huge and flew back and forth as though surveying the land, staying aloft for hours each time and then flying away at top speeds.
By the first week in December 2019, there was massive sickness in those states among the youth in the elementary and high schools that caused whole school districts to shut down. Symptoms were projectile vomiting and high fevers. Some schools had to do full-on whole-building sterilization procedures before the students were allowed back. As far as I know, there were no deaths. No one else that I know of has attributed the sickness with the drone flyovers, but I feel strongly they are connected.
So, let's not call it COVID. Let's just say we've likely been under attack by maybe numerous 'somethings' and the medical establishment has been forced to treat all sick with something that will kill them, and that is where we are today.
The cover-up really is worse than the crime. I feel like we are dealing with rebellious teenagers. They sure lie like teenagers! Jeez. Maybe they just need their asses kicked, like most teenagers...just sayin'....
I feel sorry for ppl who don’t want it but feel forced by mandates. Those who voluntarily get it are unfortunate fools so my sympathy is less since they enabled this plandemic.
I didn't read the archive post, but please tell me that nobody believes that the coof will give you blood clots, but we know something else that does!
Incorrect! Four months ago (December), my very fit, UNVACCINATED extremely buff 6-day-a-week weight-lifting, running and training athlete son (31 yrs old) who was living his best life and burning the candle at both ends got very sick with high fever, sweating, coughing, and dropping oxygen levels. I am a rabid researcher on all things COVID, and had all supplies available. He already had his own Pulse Oximeter that he bought on my advice.
So, immediately upon first symptoms he began the whole Ivermectin + D3, Quercetin, Vit C, Zinc, NAC, hot tea, soups for 5 days straight, but he was not getting better. His fever kept returning and his coughing was continuous. We were strongly in favor of at-home treatment.
Luckily, we have a doctor friend who agreed to prescribe steroids and a prescription cough medicine to help him stop the constant cough and had a portable oxygen unit delivered. We continued with the Ivermectin + vitamin protocol + chlorella + black tea + chicken broth. We made him take a daily aspirin and use a flutter valve to exercise his lungs. We also made him sleep prone.
He still didn't improve. We got a mobile medical nurse to come to his home and put him on a a super-potent Vit C & other vitamin combination IV drip and were able to obtain an IV drip with the Monoclonal Antibodies. No improvement!
After two weeks, I asked the doctor to write an order for a D-Dimer test because I thought that blood clot formation had to be behind his constant, unproductive dry coughing.
The D-Dimer number came back at 1,125. The doctor was horrified. He said he'd never seen it that high, especially in a healthy no-comorbidity, young patient. He immediately sent him for an lung X-ray and CT scan to check for clots and put him on Eliquis which is an anti-coagulant. The D-Dimer number meant he was building all kinds of clots. The doc then added an antibiotic and after a few days of being on that blood thinner, my son finally began to improve. By the end of December, he finally pulled out of it, but had to stay on the blood thinner for 6 weeks. I tell you, that was a scary time.
No, he absolutely is not. I've pounded that in his head well enough. But it's possible he got it from a recently boosted viral shedder. That's what happened to my husband a year ago (also unvaxxed) who went to lunch with his sister who'd just flown in town and had been vaccinated a week before. He got so sick and everything I did to help him wasn't enough. He did have to go to the hospital and he too had elevated D-Dimer (that's how I learned about the test). But his D-Dimer number never went above 400. Husband on the other hand, has several co-morbidities so he was at a high risk.
I tell you, with all of my research and supplies, the fact that my husband got sick and the home treatment still was just not enough really shook me. Luckily, he is fully recovered, but not quite back to his previous.
Thanks for that, and as somebody who has had 3 blood clots, one was PE I am well aware they happen. Mine happened through paralysis due to a complete burst fracture of my L2 vertebrae. Yes Eliquis is the current blood thinner that holds the required INR level.
But when you look at the statistics, just like the other common adverse reactions, blood clots have climbed to huge levels AFTER injection.
Was the blood clot from the incessant coughing which caused a bleed?
This explanation should help:
The reason for the clot development is that the virus attacks the heme in the blood cells, rendering them unable to carry the required oxygen. The lungs become distressed and become inflamed because they think they are falling down on the job and start working harder, but it doesn't help. This will trigger the cough reflex.
Additionally, the vascular system realizes something is wrong because not enough oxygen is being delivered. Its response is to assume the body is wounded and has a bleed. So, it makes more red blood cells and sends out clotting factor (fibrin) to plug the leak, wherever it is. But there is no wound, there is no leak. All these extra red blood cells get attacked by the virus and they, too cannot carry enough oxygen.
So, the combination of too many damaged blood cells packed in the veins along with too much fibrin starts to create these tiny micro clots (microthrombosis). They won't show up on an x-ray or CT scan until they get big. But enough of them will do you in.
Currently, the only thing that will confirm their development is the D-Dimer test. The higher the number, the more clots you have.
Thus, the cough won't go away until the lungs are allowed to relax. The lungs won't relax until the blood starts carrying more oxygen. Some relief can be gained with supplemental oxygen coupled with the steroids.
The solution was to try and stop the virus with Ivermectin + vitamins, and assist the body with oxygen, antibiotics, and anti-coagulants until his body could get a handle on the situation.
Yes thanks, it's helped a lot.
With all due respect to u/casuallyobservant, there is an additional and possibly more direct explanation for the clotting. The spike protein seeks cells with the ACE-2 receptor to infect. Those cells, found throughout the body, are primarily in endothelial cells, which are the cells that line the interior of the blood vessels, i.e. the veins and arteries. When these cells are damaged it usually signifies a broken blood vessel that requires clotting in order to stop a person from losing blood; in the case of Covid the cells are damaged from within, which still triggers the clotting but now the clotting factor is released within the blood stream rather than forming a scab outside the blood vessel. Worse, the clot-attracting blood is now circulating along with the virus to potentially lodge anywhere throughout the circulatory system. I've seen this explained in a number of places, but medcram.org has some of the best explanations.
It also affects heme directly, which is why different blood types are affected differently (apparently O is slightly better), but I know hemotologists who don't agree, and I haven't seen agreement on this, while the endothelial damage is much more evident. For what its worth.
Thanks for the post.
You are correct. I failed to mention the damage to the endothelium that also occurs. Those videos I've seen where the microscopic examination of the blood cells shows such horrible damage to the cells themselves is appalling. Then, coupled with the damage to the lining in all of the pathways that carry the blood is a tragedy.
Thanks for clarifying further what I was attempting to explain.
Congrats on saving your son. It is scary. It's good the doctor was open to your suggestion of the d-dimer test, and had appropriate treatments. For future reference, and possibly for other people, you may want to be aware of a much simpler treatment against the infection- nebulized hydrogen peroxide. https://www.spiritofchange.org/nebulized-peroxide-a-simple-remedy-for-covid-19/ It is very inexpensive and easy to do, and in my opinion may have saved him sooner, while saving you all a lot of stress and time. If his distress returns, like long Covid, it may be useful to include. Hopefully it won't return.
Thank you. I had actually read about this treatment but had not obtained one yet when all this was happening. But, since then, my daughter ordered two different nebulizers online for this very purpose, but said neither worked right, so she returned them both.
I agree it sounds like a very good idea and would like to have one that works because it does make sense to try this.
If you've used one with success, can you share the brand name of the device so I can order one and have a good one in my arsenal for next time??
This is the one I have. https://www.vitalitymedical.com/omron-ne-c801-compair-compressor-nebulizer.html The nebulized hydrogen peroxide therapy literally saved my life. I was in a position similar to your son, possibly more advanced. I was also in a unique position to observe the blood clotting phenomenon directly, so I studied it a lot. I wrote a post about it. Like a lot of posts, much of the best stuff is in the comments. Many people corroborate the benefits of the peroxide therapy, and some of them compare nebulizers. The post: https://communities.win/c/GreatAwakening/p/140cbVkN65/when-vitamins-and-ivm-dont-seem-/c
Thanks!
Yes, tell me about it. I had bought the horsey paste for my whole family back in January of 2021.
I bought a 6 month supply for us all to take every week or so. We also all bought pulse oximeters and the whole vitamin protocol. Everyone was fully versed on what to do and how to do it.
I've been being vigilant, as has my daughter, but both my husband and my son stopped taking it for a while (and didn't tell me). Son has his own place, so I couldn't monitor what he'd been doing.
So, my son told me he had been taking it for close to 10 months every 10 days or so, but admitted that he had stopped back in November because he figured he was immune since he'd managed to stay super healthy with all of his activities. How wrong he was.
Thank you for that. He appears to be. I want him to have another D-Dimer test to confirm nothing more is happening, but he doesn't want to do it because he is feeling fine and wishes to believe he's fine and therefore chooses to not 'worry' about it. So many people seem fine, but then keel over suddenly. All I can do is pray.
The coof definitely gives blood clots. That's the underlying cause behind low oxygen at extremities (detected by pulsometer) and Covid toes. It is also why, in the early days of Covid, people would get cured of the virus and discharged from the hospital, only to die of a heart attack or stroke within days. There are all sorts of reports of difficulty with IVs because of the clotting. That mostly stopped when they started using warfarin, a prescription drug thinner, on both inpatient and discharged patients. Clotting is also the cause of the permanent lung and heart damage from Covid. NAC is a non-prescription blood thinner, and this is one reason so many people recommend NAC, although it also works against Covid's infection vector. Medcram.org has a lot of proof and very good explanations for anyone who wants to research.
Of course the vax causes the same thing, because it is the same thing, administered in greater concentration.
Is that why then some Dr's used Viagra early on and found improvement, because it allowed better blood flow and hence more oxygen to the brain and other organs?
Thanks for the post.
Got a stiff neck as well. (sorry). :)
Yeah, it is. The honest doctors were trying to figure out how the body was oxygen deprived despite the ventilators, and viagra is one thing that helped, and it was readily available and included in the hospital's approved medicine list. It's also why ECMOs (think dialysis, but for infusing air into the blood instead of filtering it) worked better than ventilators.
Thanks, yes I listened to Dr's talking about how they had some success with Viagra, the thinking was in the early days that this was more like hypoxia because as you say despite ventilators the oxygen levels would decline, and opening up blood flow seemed to correct some of this.
Hadn't heard about ECMOs but yes also makes sense.
Blinded by the Light
I'm very confused by this thread...
Lots of reports of "severe covid"
When many of us long time TD or Q readers can confirm COVID is not real, that it's all URIs
I understand your confusion. BUT PLEASE READ THIS LONG RESPONSE:
There have always been viruses and bacteria out there that people caught. Think of it: Influenza A & B, Pneumonia, strep throat, bronchitis, mononucleosis, myriad other infections, the common cold and what not.
But HERE IS WHERE THE CONSPIRACY EXISTS: Today, if someone gets 'something/anything' the doctor and the hospitals are HUGELY financially incentivized to respond with, "tested positive for COVID", and treat with a restricted protocol that eliminates the majority of useful medicines. They call it COVID and ONLY treat it with an antagonist drug by the name of REMDESIVIR that increases mortality, barring any and all other useful drugs, and barring the patients' families from being with them and visiting them to see what is being done to them. The patient often gets worse and dies from this wrong treatment or is left with major organ damage from the Remdesivir. That is why those of us who are in the know treat the patient at home with the proper stuff and/or utilize an MD friend who will treat outside the box.
As we've seen, there is clearly a group of people who have planned this and are enacting a scenario designed to make lots of people sick and lots of people dead. They are doing 'whatever it takes' to make that happen.
BUT THERE IS MUCH MORE TO THIS STORY...
In Aug/Sept of 2019, the west coast was seeing a bunch of young people fall ill with a strange sickness that was attacking their lungs. It was killing them. They didn't know what it was. The commonality was they were all vape pen users. When I read about that, I did some deep dives and found that the US major manufacturer of vape pens was suing a number of Chinese companies who were selling very identical-looking 'dupes' of their pens at half price in the market. My suspicion was that the knockoff vape pens were laced with the early virus and were killing the youths on the west coast, hoping to spread 'it' covertly.
AND THEN, a few months later...
In late November 2019, there were a number of 'mystery drone sightings' of large groups of drones flying in formation (some said as many as 150 together) that flew over about 6 midwestern states during the Thanksgiving holiday time frame. The farmers and cattle ranchers were alarmed and alerted their local sheriffs, the FBI, Homeland security etc. No one could identify the owners of the drones, no one took credit for the drones. This also happened to some of our military ships at sea. The 'drones' were huge and flew back and forth as though surveying the land, staying aloft for hours each time and then flying away at top speeds.
By the first week in December 2019, there was massive sickness in those states among the youth in the elementary and high schools that caused whole school districts to shut down. Symptoms were projectile vomiting and high fevers. Some schools had to do full-on whole-building sterilization procedures before the students were allowed back. As far as I know, there were no deaths. No one else that I know of has attributed the sickness with the drone flyovers, but I feel strongly they are connected.
So, let's not call it COVID. Let's just say we've likely been under attack by maybe numerous 'somethings' and the medical establishment has been forced to treat all sick with something that will kill them, and that is where we are today.
The cover-up really is worse than the crime. I feel like we are dealing with rebellious teenagers. They sure lie like teenagers! Jeez. Maybe they just need their asses kicked, like most teenagers...just sayin'....
I feel sorry for ppl who don’t want it but feel forced by mandates. Those who voluntarily get it are unfortunate fools so my sympathy is less since they enabled this plandemic.
What a fucking joke!
Don't get tested. There fixed.