Every time those damn trails are spread here, they last ALL day and cause the weather to turn from a bright clear day to a cooler cloudier one and I get really bad migraines. There is a difference between chemtrails and contrails and those who refuse to see if should do some more digging. Contrails dissipate very quickly while the damn toxic chemtrails spread very far out in a deeper white/gray color and are in a spiral formation stretched across the skies. Always in giant Xs or crosshatch patterns... intentionally created that way
Hmm. So the weather turns from bright and clear in the morning to cool and cloudy in the evening. Why am I not surprised?
Contrails do not necessarily dissipate quickly. I've seen them cross the entire sky and they linger for hours. Airplanes do not always fly in the same directions, you know. Crossing trails would be expected. I saw some today. Hard to notice among all the cumulus clouds covering 80% of the sky.
It's terrible when you think you know something, but there is no evidence.
bright and clear in the morning to cool and cloudy in the evening
No, this isnt how it works. Do you EVEN pay attention to the sky, like, AT ALL?
Contrails do NOT last for hours. If they are not gone within 15-20 mins, and lasting hours, what you are seeing are CHEMTRAILS.
Clouds? What clouds? We havent had clouds in AGES. All we get are chemtrails. Remember being a child and being able to look up at the clouds and play the "what shape is it" game, but those things havent been around in a LONG time.
I am an aeronautical engineer. I worked for 40 years at the Boeing Company in Seattle. I live under the approach/departure corridor to Sea-Tac International Airport and have observed contrails since I was 5 years old. You are talking through your hat. Contrails can persist and stretch entirely across the sky. It is no big deal. I look at the sky a LOT. When I lived in California, I realized that half the natural scenery I was used to was clouds in the sky...but there were few clouds. And when any clouds showed up, the locals acted like it was a plague.
You obviously don't live where there are clouds. Even today, the sky was almost entirely covered by thick cumulus clouds (we had some snow, in fact)...and in the clear patch, I could see a contrail. To think that contrails are some kind of environmental threat is a fantasy. Contrails are only clouds. If you are peeved at the absence of clouds, why not welcome contrails? You are imagining things that aren't real. Your weather pattern might have changed, but---guess what? Don't feel alone. This is called natural variation. Everybody gets upset with California droughts...but they don't stop to realize that drought is California's natural condition for tens of thousands of years. The Pacific Northwest is rainy and has been all my life. Rain requires clouds, and we got 'em.
Just do a search for "cloudseeding patent" and you can find lots of this stuff. I had an Australian friend who dismissed chemtrails as silly. A friend who, btw, opened my eyes to the fake attack on the Pentagon on 9/11. I showed him these links and he changed his tune. Whoever is the mod banning people for discussing chemtrails/cloudseeding needs to realize that weather weapons have been used as far back as the Vietnam War, in which they were used to try to flood out the Viet Cong tunnels. This is a historical fact, and the Chinese government bragged about using geoengineering to prevent rain when they last hosted the Summer Olympics. And let's not forget the time that the hurricaine parked itself over that Chinese-controlled island in the Carribbean for a long time, then made a 90 degree turn out to sea instead of approaching the Eastern seaboard. There's even a photo of Trump inspecting such canisters aboard an airplane. He knows what's up more than this mod here who doesn't like us talking about stuff.
Please, I've said that multiple times here and never been banned. Of course they're real, we see them every day in the sky. They've admitted to doing it, calling it geoengineering.
This was the message I got for responding to someone's post about chemtrails:
"You are now banned for 3 days.
*Chemtrail tards are not welcome on GAW. Perhaps c/conspiracy would be a better home for you? Or some other WIN? Here's some time to figure that out.
OR - you can learn what contrails are, how they form, and why changes in the types of aircraft we fly today has increased the contrails. More efficient engines = better combustion = more water vapour, as well as dramatic increases in non-stop (and thus longer) flights, meaning that more aircraft spend more time at higher altitudes where contrails form (aircraft today fly on average 5000-10000 feet higher than 20 years ago).
So the chemtrailtards say poison is in the fuel. Then what mechanism turns them off and on again if it'd in the fuel? Or it's injected. OK. Then where are the photos of the injector mechanisms in commercial aircraft? You need HUNDREDS of flights per day by such aircraft to generate the coverage you need.
Why this message? This WIN is for intelligent people capable of critical thinking. Find a telegram group if you want to continue believing this utter nonsense.
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If you want to appeal your ban, please read the rules on the sidebar, and reply to this message."
Search engines not hiding it at all. Stratospheric Aerosol Injection. Solar Radiation Management. Weather Modification. ‘Dimming the sun.’ Climate Engineering. Geoengineering. These terms deliver a ton of results.
If you search a non-meaning term like “chemtrails” you’re probably not looking for any serious info.
look at the switch and this guys patch lol, i could imagine this guy calling it in,,,,Tower this is chem wizzer ready to dump my load of chem on the people do i have a go
This is what I mean. The pictures are bogus. The arm patch is evidently photo-shopped. The control panel is likewise (not logical for a control to switch from "on" to "on"). And the interior picture is a hoax; what is shown is the interior of a Boeing developmental airplane equipped with water tanks to impose a calibrated weight on the deck. I've seen a related view on a hoax video where longitudinal tanks were used to adjust the aircraft center of gravity by pumping water forward or aft.
Guess what. Smells travel. Even plants give off smells. I see contrails all the time. The fact of fake pictures means that someone is pulling a hoax. You should awaken to that fact and reconsider your assumptions---because assumptions are not knowledge.
Lots of videos but not one documented book. A book would be subject to verification, and bogus material would be identified and criticized. Who bothers to take videos seriously, when there is no data available to verify claims, or evidence published and cited? It's all "trust me, I'm trustworthy."
I don't deny what there is credible evidence for. But as an aeronautical engineer, with a 40-year career in the aircraft industry, living under the flightpath to and from an international airport, I have a rather expert understanding of contrails. You, on the other hand, have bought into a gigantic package deal of conspiracies. I'm not saying that any or all are right or wrong, but only that they have to be taken individually, and an objective scientific view is necessary. I have learned a phrase from being on this page: Don't fill your ignorance with prejudice; you will be worse off.
I was into the John Birch Society when I was a teenager in the 60s, so I defer to no one in the "wake up" department. You, on the other hand, are happy to be scientifically ignorant, so my advice is "read a book."
I've been observing the sky for 50-60 years, where contrails were not a usual thing in the mid-1950s. Now they can be seen all the time. There is a wide range of contrails and nothing distinctive that would merit being called a chemtrail. The proof can be conclusive: documentation of spraying equipment in a commercial airliner. But it has to be proven that it is spraying equipment and not some ordinary purge vent. You won't find it. The plumbing needed for that sort of equipment would be completely noticeable during factory assembly, which happens in a very big place with lots of people involved. No such equipment on board.
You just have some idee fixe of what contrails are and aren't...and you are wrong. The idea that they are quickly transient is very mistaken. They are only a form of cloud, and clouds can vanish or linger.
A book can be taken seriously, because the lack of supporting evidence citation would be a glaring omission. It is possible to verify the information independently. Videos are meant for the undiscerning eye and grease by without any means of verification, stitched together with lots of unsubstantiated allegation. Once it is cooked up, there is no independent means of verification, as there are no objective details to verify. You don't win a legal case with "Check out this video, Judge."
Another reason I don't take you seriously is that you belabor "chemtrails" from utterly innocuous contrails---yet completely bypass the authentic huge chemical plumes resulting from space launches involving large solid-propellant boosters (hydrochloric acid and aluminum oxide dust). Somehow, that is beneath your notice, and everyone admits to what those plumes amount to. Yet, the weather washes it out of the sky and the southern Florida air is fresh again. You get excited where they aren't, and don't give a shit where they unmistakably are. You just aren't serious or consistent in your concerns.
If Elon jokes the weather is fake, at this point in where we are, sure, why not. How many people would be surprised to find out we had weather tech back in the 60s or 70s, that has exponentially grown?
They are paying commercial airlines to spray primarily Delta, United, Allegiance, Jet Blue but are now using private aircraft which I have seen 4 at a time, side by side. How much are they getting paid?
These are commercial airlines that are spraying? It's hard to imagine they have passengers onboard with how close they fly to the other planes spraying. And with the specific grid patterns they're spraying, how are they actually getting to their destinations?!
I think they are picking regular flight paths. I'm not sure how they are doing it but the other day I saw a plane dropping trails from the tail section. Not sure if they're keeping containers in luggage areas or what.
Happens when the air conditions are, and are not, conducive to the condensation. Air is not always homogeneous. You get a similar effect to create lenticular clouds that seem to be anchored over mountaintops.
Careful, I got banned on here for 3 days (and called a f**king moron) for suggesting chemtrails are real.
Well thats bs chem trails are legit sorry you were banned
Every time those damn trails are spread here, they last ALL day and cause the weather to turn from a bright clear day to a cooler cloudier one and I get really bad migraines. There is a difference between chemtrails and contrails and those who refuse to see if should do some more digging. Contrails dissipate very quickly while the damn toxic chemtrails spread very far out in a deeper white/gray color and are in a spiral formation stretched across the skies. Always in giant Xs or crosshatch patterns... intentionally created that way
Hmm. So the weather turns from bright and clear in the morning to cool and cloudy in the evening. Why am I not surprised?
Contrails do not necessarily dissipate quickly. I've seen them cross the entire sky and they linger for hours. Airplanes do not always fly in the same directions, you know. Crossing trails would be expected. I saw some today. Hard to notice among all the cumulus clouds covering 80% of the sky.
It's terrible when you think you know something, but there is no evidence.
No, this isnt how it works. Do you EVEN pay attention to the sky, like, AT ALL?
Contrails do NOT last for hours. If they are not gone within 15-20 mins, and lasting hours, what you are seeing are CHEMTRAILS.
Clouds? What clouds? We havent had clouds in AGES. All we get are chemtrails. Remember being a child and being able to look up at the clouds and play the "what shape is it" game, but those things havent been around in a LONG time.
I am an aeronautical engineer. I worked for 40 years at the Boeing Company in Seattle. I live under the approach/departure corridor to Sea-Tac International Airport and have observed contrails since I was 5 years old. You are talking through your hat. Contrails can persist and stretch entirely across the sky. It is no big deal. I look at the sky a LOT. When I lived in California, I realized that half the natural scenery I was used to was clouds in the sky...but there were few clouds. And when any clouds showed up, the locals acted like it was a plague.
You obviously don't live where there are clouds. Even today, the sky was almost entirely covered by thick cumulus clouds (we had some snow, in fact)...and in the clear patch, I could see a contrail. To think that contrails are some kind of environmental threat is a fantasy. Contrails are only clouds. If you are peeved at the absence of clouds, why not welcome contrails? You are imagining things that aren't real. Your weather pattern might have changed, but---guess what? Don't feel alone. This is called natural variation. Everybody gets upset with California droughts...but they don't stop to realize that drought is California's natural condition for tens of thousands of years. The Pacific Northwest is rainy and has been all my life. Rain requires clouds, and we got 'em.
Whatever you say, guy
Hah! I see plane trails in the sky that linger.
Checkmate drumpftards!
Lemme guess... was it Cats5? I once showed him a link to the actual US patent for chemtrail technology and never got a response.
Well when backed into a corner the best strategy is to pretend you didn't hear it. Also, you got that link handy?
This will amuse you.
http://weathermodification.com/cloud-seeding-aerial.php
Cloudseeding patent:
https://patents.google.com/patent/US5357865A/en
another one
https://patents.google.com/patent/US3659785
Just do a search for "cloudseeding patent" and you can find lots of this stuff. I had an Australian friend who dismissed chemtrails as silly. A friend who, btw, opened my eyes to the fake attack on the Pentagon on 9/11. I showed him these links and he changed his tune. Whoever is the mod banning people for discussing chemtrails/cloudseeding needs to realize that weather weapons have been used as far back as the Vietnam War, in which they were used to try to flood out the Viet Cong tunnels. This is a historical fact, and the Chinese government bragged about using geoengineering to prevent rain when they last hosted the Summer Olympics. And let's not forget the time that the hurricaine parked itself over that Chinese-controlled island in the Carribbean for a long time, then made a 90 degree turn out to sea instead of approaching the Eastern seaboard. There's even a photo of Trump inspecting such canisters aboard an airplane. He knows what's up more than this mod here who doesn't like us talking about stuff.
Me too, except the language was a lot more vile.
Yes, the "f**king morning" was mild. They sent an entire page of nonsense with links to YOUTUBE videos on how chemtrails are not real. HAHAHA.
Please, I've said that multiple times here and never been banned. Of course they're real, we see them every day in the sky. They've admitted to doing it, calling it geoengineering.
This was the message I got for responding to someone's post about chemtrails:
"You are now banned for 3 days.
*Chemtrail tards are not welcome on GAW. Perhaps c/conspiracy would be a better home for you? Or some other WIN? Here's some time to figure that out.
OR - you can learn what contrails are, how they form, and why changes in the types of aircraft we fly today has increased the contrails. More efficient engines = better combustion = more water vapour, as well as dramatic increases in non-stop (and thus longer) flights, meaning that more aircraft spend more time at higher altitudes where contrails form (aircraft today fly on average 5000-10000 feet higher than 20 years ago). So the chemtrailtards say poison is in the fuel. Then what mechanism turns them off and on again if it'd in the fuel? Or it's injected. OK. Then where are the photos of the injector mechanisms in commercial aircraft? You need HUNDREDS of flights per day by such aircraft to generate the coverage you need.
Educate yourself on why these things form:
https://youtu.be/-kNCP3udnMo
https://youtu.be/0yE-AU8kNv4
Why this message? This WIN is for intelligent people capable of critical thinking. Find a telegram group if you want to continue believing this utter nonsense.
C5 *
If you want to appeal your ban, please read the rules on the sidebar, and reply to this message."
Search engines not hiding it at all. Stratospheric Aerosol Injection. Solar Radiation Management. Weather Modification. ‘Dimming the sun.’ Climate Engineering. Geoengineering. These terms deliver a ton of results.
If you search a non-meaning term like “chemtrails” you’re probably not looking for any serious info.
look at the switch and this guys patch lol, i could imagine this guy calling it in,,,,Tower this is chem wizzer ready to dump my load of chem on the people do i have a go
This is what I mean. The pictures are bogus. The arm patch is evidently photo-shopped. The control panel is likewise (not logical for a control to switch from "on" to "on"). And the interior picture is a hoax; what is shown is the interior of a Boeing developmental airplane equipped with water tanks to impose a calibrated weight on the deck. I've seen a related view on a hoax video where longitudinal tanks were used to adjust the aircraft center of gravity by pumping water forward or aft.
This.
Yes chemtrails are real.
This picture/meme is bs.
Cabal -> Be doing a bad thing
Patriots-> "The cabal is doing a bad thing!"
Sheep-> "Need proof"
Cabal -> Make fake pics and disinformation and always tie bad thing discussion to Flat Earth
Patriots -> Finds cabal disinformation and posts it
Cabal -> OMG that's fake, bad thing is just a nut job conspiracy theory.
Sheep -> OMG that's fake, bad thing is just a nut job conspiracy theory.
Guess what. Smells travel. Even plants give off smells. I see contrails all the time. The fact of fake pictures means that someone is pulling a hoax. You should awaken to that fact and reconsider your assumptions---because assumptions are not knowledge.
Lots of videos but not one documented book. A book would be subject to verification, and bogus material would be identified and criticized. Who bothers to take videos seriously, when there is no data available to verify claims, or evidence published and cited? It's all "trust me, I'm trustworthy."
I don't deny what there is credible evidence for. But as an aeronautical engineer, with a 40-year career in the aircraft industry, living under the flightpath to and from an international airport, I have a rather expert understanding of contrails. You, on the other hand, have bought into a gigantic package deal of conspiracies. I'm not saying that any or all are right or wrong, but only that they have to be taken individually, and an objective scientific view is necessary. I have learned a phrase from being on this page: Don't fill your ignorance with prejudice; you will be worse off.
I was into the John Birch Society when I was a teenager in the 60s, so I defer to no one in the "wake up" department. You, on the other hand, are happy to be scientifically ignorant, so my advice is "read a book."
I've been observing the sky for 50-60 years, where contrails were not a usual thing in the mid-1950s. Now they can be seen all the time. There is a wide range of contrails and nothing distinctive that would merit being called a chemtrail. The proof can be conclusive: documentation of spraying equipment in a commercial airliner. But it has to be proven that it is spraying equipment and not some ordinary purge vent. You won't find it. The plumbing needed for that sort of equipment would be completely noticeable during factory assembly, which happens in a very big place with lots of people involved. No such equipment on board.
You just have some idee fixe of what contrails are and aren't...and you are wrong. The idea that they are quickly transient is very mistaken. They are only a form of cloud, and clouds can vanish or linger.
A book can be taken seriously, because the lack of supporting evidence citation would be a glaring omission. It is possible to verify the information independently. Videos are meant for the undiscerning eye and grease by without any means of verification, stitched together with lots of unsubstantiated allegation. Once it is cooked up, there is no independent means of verification, as there are no objective details to verify. You don't win a legal case with "Check out this video, Judge."
Another reason I don't take you seriously is that you belabor "chemtrails" from utterly innocuous contrails---yet completely bypass the authentic huge chemical plumes resulting from space launches involving large solid-propellant boosters (hydrochloric acid and aluminum oxide dust). Somehow, that is beneath your notice, and everyone admits to what those plumes amount to. Yet, the weather washes it out of the sky and the southern Florida air is fresh again. You get excited where they aren't, and don't give a shit where they unmistakably are. You just aren't serious or consistent in your concerns.
If Elon jokes the weather is fake, at this point in where we are, sure, why not. How many people would be surprised to find out we had weather tech back in the 60s or 70s, that has exponentially grown?
what does this guys patch say
They are paying commercial airlines to spray primarily Delta, United, Allegiance, Jet Blue but are now using private aircraft which I have seen 4 at a time, side by side. How much are they getting paid?
These are commercial airlines that are spraying? It's hard to imagine they have passengers onboard with how close they fly to the other planes spraying. And with the specific grid patterns they're spraying, how are they actually getting to their destinations?!
I think they are picking regular flight paths. I'm not sure how they are doing it but the other day I saw a plane dropping trails from the tail section. Not sure if they're keeping containers in luggage areas or what.
Why are the options son the switch “on” or “on”?
I want to make a "because you can't stop what's coming" jape, but I can't make it fit.
For 2 different kinds of shit.
My post wasn’t a typo. Look at the picture. There isn’t an off setting
Coz that picture is fake as fuck
Center is the off position. 3 way toggle.
Its always interesting when they stack the Xs in the sky
Happens when the air conditions are, and are not, conducive to the condensation. Air is not always homogeneous. You get a similar effect to create lenticular clouds that seem to be anchored over mountaintops.
Much better atmosphere for those dragons who were forced into hibernation. Better for the new transhumans too.