I have considered many thories on what is happening, and what it all means, from the plan, to devolution, to Revelation. I have not discounted any, yet I am not willing to follow any blindly, although there is one of those that I am absolutley convinced of. And I believe that Q did, and does argue that this careful consideration is what will be needed in whatever circumstances come.
So here goes, I cannot completely disregard the possibility that, the plan, is the solution to hegelian dialectic. That is if all government is the problem, not just half of it, which I think is overwhelmingly supported by the majority of the evidence, then it could stand to reason that the most viable solution is exactly what someone has designed us to desire. Which of course could also mean that we are all being manipulated into wanting what was best for humanity as a whole. Thats true. Absolutely, and I hope that it is, but I have yet to ever see this happen on any scale. This kind of transformation I have only witnessed one at a time, and with small immediate consequence to the surrounding world, and that only when someone gives their life, wholly and truly to the Lord Jesus Christ, our savior.
The question is what do you all do with the unpopular thoughts? I dont see them discussed much. I have seen people be ridiculed for having them, though I think they are absolutely necessary for anyone who is honestly seeking the truth. And I believe whole heartedly that we should all be seeking the absolute truth, because that leads to our Lord Jesus Christ, and not just a solution to the immediate problem, but a solution to the over arching, and much larger, problem.
Thank you all for being here, for seeking, for caring to search, for your fraternal/seourorital love. May we all go where one goes. Together we will overcome, we will persevere. That is what they are afraid of, the liars, those who seek lies and confusion, because the truth is coming to devastate the lies and to illuminate all the confusion, it always has been and nothing can stop it, because that is God. The Truth Himself cannot be stopped and it may take the form of a mighty storm, a natural disaster that threatens all, and it is coming.
Blessings frens!
It is all coming down. It is going to get really bad. Bad enough to wake up humanity. It has to,
Most people are not being realistic and figure a couple of arrests will free us from thousands of years of slavery. It won't.
Get physical Gold and Silver [also food and supplies] while you still can. It will be us that are needed to help rebuild.
Yeah, I don’t know how people aren’t taking into account what these jabs have done to divide humanity. The Normies will Reeee until they are red. This is a powder keg about to explode.
I don't quite understand
Are you worried that we are all being led astray?
We've all got different ideas and approaches here. It's not a hive mind. I'm not sensing the danger of group think.
I don't think most people here want no government structure at all, just accountable government which represents people and is of the people.
I think you understood fairly well my post. Thank you for reading, and sharing your translation. I often have some difficulty transmitting the thoughts in my head to others.
I would like to hear more about your last statement on the unnecessary nightmare realm of the ego mind.
Blessings fren.
I am not suggesting that we are being led astray, but I cant discount it either. The Lord is the only true way that doesnt deserve to be doubted, although I think we can and do question even this, and that it can be a healthy exercise. We obviously need some form of government, maybe it needs completely rethought. I was just opening a conversation on continued critical thinking, I have been afraid that it would be lost in the faith of worldly solutions.
Good on you for being skeptical!
My faith is in God alone. Im standing on the word of God and without a doubt every wicked vile monster will face God and none will escape His wrath. Some will face justice here and now, some when they see God, some both.
The truth is no one can say for sure if the plans we hope are in motion that we discuss here is for certain. But for those wicked that will get it here and now, scripturally its described that they are caught--in their own traps. Also in various scriptures we are encouraged to not lose heart and also that we will see their end. These are words for the long haul, IMO, indicating that sometimes it will take time and reminds me to not get discouraged if it seems like they are getting away with evil.
So that said, when I get doomy bc Im human and I hate evil, I hate the wicked, and seeing them prosper is one of the worst things on earth. I just remind myself to keep Gods perspective--and He in heaven laughs at the wicked when they think they succeed, bc He knows their day is coming. So whatever that means--I trust God with all my heart and know HIs justice will not be lacking. He means it and its in timing I dont choose.
Above all, what no one can take from us ever, EVER-- is prayer. In the meantime with everything, pray constantly and remember Gods men and women of faith that were grieved and suffered and how they prayed.
Lets do that without fail bc from a spiritual standpoint, we go far and accomplish more than we realize when we pray with faith, in the name above every name JESUS. In fact if we knew how much was actually accomplished by true prayer in true faith thru Jesus authority, we'd never stop, we'd use that weapon constantly.
Courage and perseverance to you brother, in prayer without ceasing.
Thank you, sincerely.
Blessings.
If you look at all of the stories in the Bible, there was always a protagonist and antagonist. A good guy or group and a bad guy or group. This is why I believe that there HAS to be some good guys in the situation. God never leaves his beloved sheep without a good leader to follow. I have considered “well, maybe it’s end times and this time we won’t have anyone good.” Deep in my heart, I just don’t feel that’s true. All of the people who refused the vax- they felt deep down that something wasn’t right. I think that was God telling us. I think God is telling us to keep hope. I don’t think it’s the end yet. I see so much good in the world still. So many people who will fight for what’s right no matter what they have to lose. I still keep a careful eye on everyone, but I feel like Good is gonna win
God wins friend, beyond a doubt, that is quite literally what He does. He cannot do otherwise.
Just as an aside (but your post is something I wrestle with often and just when I think I have some answers, the opposite comes into my mind) but it did suddenly dawn on me whether Covid was the scare event so we would, and lots of others now, dismiss any future type virus pandemic/lockdown attempts.
The reality for me is thus, although yes lot's has happened as is apparently happening, my reality has changed very little. I also fail to believe that there are not any good people in positions of power that would standby at let the world completely collapse and allow Schwab and cronies carry out the great reset.
I can certainly relate to those questions. What I am more questioning is if man, in all his weakness, in today's world, is even capable of escaping the evil. Or is he more likely to perpetuate it all while believing that he is doing what's best. I see so much division and very little forgiveness. It is a ministry of reconciliation that Jesus left us with. Reconciliation to God and reconciliation between men. Judgement belongs to Him alone.
As Jordan Peterson has said, ( please excuse my poor memory and indirect quote), something like, if you look at Hitler and you dont see how you could become that same thing, then you havent looked carefully enough.
God wins that is certain. Blessings fren.
You can always discuss unpopular thoughts as you call it, on the Daily Discussion General Thread without fear of being banned for dooming etc.
Interesting thoughts, and thank you for sharing!
Is all of government the problem? I guess it depends on the vantage point taken and the perception that such a point yields.
Personally, I agree with what is expressed in the declaration of independence. This is based on the premise that we are the guardians of our own rights .i.e the space that allows us to exercise those rights. If we do not guard it .... then what is government to do? Fill that space?
A temporary fill would then lead to a pushing for more areas of control. And to get the masses agreeing to that encroaching, a ploy is entertained: create the problem, and wait till the masses start screaming for some sort of solution. Then present your solution, which is never a solution to the problem created, but will only do one thing: enlarge the power of government.
What happens when a group of people start guarding their space in an attempt to role back some of these undue power grabs? The entrenched interests start fighting back.
So, how do you overcome this power differential? With enough people willing to guard their space, that precious line beyond which these power hungry fraudsters should not advance, because, they have already become detrimental to our rights.
How do you get enough people? RonPaul tried and had only limited success. The tea party tried, and was taken over and died a soft death.
But I happen to think that each instance created a larger group with a consciousness and will to defend what is the basis of what government should be.
How do you wake bigger groups? Some people will simply respond to values of overarching importance. Others, will simply respond to pain.
When Q wrote about pain, not all pain occurrences are related to the DS. Some of them seemed to relate to us. At least, that is how I understood his: you are ready-remark.
What is this pain? Well, basically, it is feeling the consequences of the power hungry out of bounds government in your wallet, in your family relations, in your everyday choices. And the economy indeed is what we all have in common.
But think about this: the shirt is always closer to the body than the vest.
Or will there probably a major uprising when things go really to shit.
what would happen if two events happen at the same time: the economy goes to shit and a push for ...eh .... recalibration of rights happens .....
So to answer your question, you already pointed out that this happened once before 2000 years ago, and if it happened then it can happen now and indeed this is why Q said this was going to be Biblical.
What are you fearing? That Trump and the white hats are actually working for Cabal and playing a reverse psychology on us?
I just think that one must consider all possibilities more than other possiblity when they are seeking the truth. Seek and you shall find. If you search for truth as one who searches for silver and gold then you will find it.
Fear isnt an appropriate response given the certainty that the truth will prevail. May I never be afraid of the truth. It is the lies that are fearful. Dooming wouldn't be a proper expression of faith. Thinking, considering that I may not know the truth in any minute situation, certainly in those which I have very limited knowledge of the details, is just that, a careful pursuit of the truth.
So if that is what you are afraid, then here is the logic I use.
If Trump was indeed Cabal, there was a much easier and faster way to achieve the same end result with almost no resistence.
He would have cut a deal with one of the Cabal groups to take down all other factions and be the one to deliver us all enslaved to that group.
Then he would have started off right in Oct 2017, exposing media first. Limited hangout of most media personalities to be replaced by puppets pretending to be patriots. This also cleans out any media assets not controlled by that Cabal group.
Then he would have gone ahead and arrested Hillary, Obama and everyone else. Cleanup the tip of the swamp with much fanfare. Expose the liberal agenda and bring the country together.
Continue doing what he did - bring back jobs, economy, make sure legal immigrants do well and get rid of illegal immigrants etc.
Clean out the pedophiles too - limited hangout. ANyone not crucial to that Cabal group would have been thrown to the dogs and exposed, the rest hide away for later.
The entire country would have been worshipping him, because no one could doubt that he was not legit given how much was cleaned out. Now comes the unfotunate incidents - false flag nuke attack, pandemic etc.
Whatever Trump would say the whole country would have believed with not a shred of doubt and followed his advice - be it the by-then-perfected nano tech vaccines or whatever else.
Once 100% vaccinated, job done. Him and his descendants could have been the emperor ruling on behalf of the Cabal group for centuries on a slave planet.
I know waiting is hard, but we are getting closer by the day. Hang in there pede. You cant destroy an evil that has been scheming for 300 years in just one shot.
I'll only add onto this to say that there are a lot of people, self included, on this board and all throughout the entire Awakening who are constantly and vigilantly watching for any significant signs that we've been misled. Every now and then, things ping that radar (vax, bump stocks, leaving office), but we are able to find reasons for these in the long run (exposing Cabal, negotiation, control, Devolution).
This applies further to the risk that we're being misled on the spiritual level. Trump publicly calls put and glorifies Christ. He builds himself up often, but he humbles himself publicly before God. While the vigilant watch should never ever cease, even Q himself taught that we should question everything and everyone, including themselves.
Future proves past. They were telling us to question everything, and to vigilantly watch to see if it was Truth we are following. Looking back, this was also the ultimate safety measure, in case the Plan went awry. We were always the Plan, and the backup plan, and the final plan.
Yes .... misleading only happens when there is a failure of thinking for yourself.
I always go back to one very simple question: does this enhance my freedom and pursuit of happiness?
For each person this may mean something else entirely, although, we are learning to think beyond our immediate interests .......
Even now, in the current Plan, we are the final stage. In the final stage once all strings cut and everything exposed, I do believe that We The People are finally going to take a stand and resoundingly retract consent to be governed. Only then will military step in openly. I have always theorized that we are the storm.
If this was two dialectics baiting us into the same cabal net, this movie would be playing out very differently. But things like pushing the vaccine do make me reeee a bit. Q has said they would have to use disinformation so it's still vital to use discernment and scrutinize all info we see. Luckily, we have this fantastic community to help us through. I know my smooth brain can't comprehend what's going on a lot of the time. Really appreciate being able to come here to chat through what's going on. I've been thinking lately the pace is picking up dramatically on all fronts. The good guys seem solidly on a course that has held true for the several years. The proof is out there if you dig a bit, or just lurk here, it's just not as in your face as 19 dead kids.
The plandemic aka great reset wants to move the world into a techno tyranny direction under the guidance of malthusians pulling the strings.
On the other hand to thwart that there must be a new form of government that come forth to counteract the plandemic.
One way or another it is going to be a bumpy ride. Stay optimistic about the future as long as you are armed with knowledge and heart.
OP you would be interested in what this person has to say in her video series.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Gy7Ktexa4apV/
Thank you I will have to find time to give a listen.
Seourorital? NSW. Soeur. That is a word.
Sororital, you are correct, I injected too much of the proper spelling into the transliteration.
Blessings fren.
God wins.