The Mormon elder that Pres Trump was addressing and giving copious compliments to appeared to be having a stroke or episode. The older man never looked at the president but instead stared off into space with his mouth agog and his eyes fixed in a blank stare,like he was in a trance. Very strange. Even the older man sitting near him touches his elbow to try and bring him out of his reverie. I thought he was perhaps senile or mentally absent. And then he spoke normally. Very weird.
I would imagine with a LOT of uber-big church-type institutions (aka denominations, etc) seniority plays a big role. I imagine more so with the Mormons. So, maybe he's just a really old guy.
“Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness? What accord has Christ with Belial? Or what portion does a believer share with an unbeliever?”
These are Americans, regardless of what they, or you, believe. The President is the elected representative leader of Americans. He's not the elected representative of your or anyone else's church, theology or belief.
We know that corruption has infiltrated almost every institution. So, I'm by no means saying that these guys are clean. But who is?
But what I am saying is, accusing Trump of somehow being theologically damned or saying that meeting with mormon church leaders because, well, they're mormons, that's out of bounds. It's actually why there is the first amendment.
He met with the Pope and the Pope ended up looking like a whipped dog, and lip readers interpreted Trump to be telling the Pope to look through a dossier he was giving him and "wear your little red shoes." The Pope and all of his cardinals are pedophiles, the Catholic Church is the biggest human trafficking and homosexual rape organization on the planet, and the Mormon church is just as bad, just not as big.
We recently watched a really good 2022 miniseries on the subject. The 7-episode series, called Under the Banner of Heaven is based on the true story of a 1984 crime spree committed in the safe and religious LDS haven of SLC, Utah.
The story covers a devout Mormon detective's investigation into a ghastly murder and his discovery of back-room secrets and cover-ups in his beloved church and the involvement of some of its most respected and prominent members.
The detective's unwavering commitment to his "Heavenly Father' becomes tested when he realizes his lifetime worship of a religion and teachings is based on a lie. His church elders reveal their quest for power, control and sexual promiscuity cloaked in the name of piousness and the requirement of the LDS wives to be completely subservient and obedient to any demand put upon them by the men of their church.
Quite right. Church and state should stay separate..I don't need to know what religion or sexual activities politicians engage in in private. It's none of my business
Is it just me or does the stunned look the guy on President Trump’s left look familiar? It reminds me of Jeb Bush when he looked at the letter at Herbert Walkers funeral.
Makes you wonder what President Trump meant when he said they had discussed things before the photo op.
Well how easy it is to found a new religion ? They are all registered as banks....profitable and gives à. little nobody immense closer...how easy is it to see an angel? Or a ballot light? That's all it takes...look them up!!
Why post it here, and now? I’m sincerely interested.
Here’s a challenge for you: Go read the Book of Mormon. Focus on its message about secret combinations. Then give me an example of a book that better describes exactly what we’re experiencing around the world at this very moment. I’ll wait.
The “I’ll wait” is an acknowledgment that people would rather reply with pithy quips rather than take the challenge.
You don’t have to like a religion to read its texts. All I’m saying is I know of no book that more clearly and more accurately describes the core problem that is ripping apart our nation, and the world: conspiratorial people making secret pacts for the purpose of gaining money and power, while stripping their fellow man of their inherent dignity.
The Mormon elder that Pres Trump was addressing and giving copious compliments to appeared to be having a stroke or episode. The older man never looked at the president but instead stared off into space with his mouth agog and his eyes fixed in a blank stare,like he was in a trance. Very strange. Even the older man sitting near him touches his elbow to try and bring him out of his reverie. I thought he was perhaps senile or mentally absent. And then he spoke normally. Very weird.
Maybe he was told their nefarious goings on needed to stop?
I would imagine with a LOT of uber-big church-type institutions (aka denominations, etc) seniority plays a big role. I imagine more so with the Mormons. So, maybe he's just a really old guy.
“Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness? What accord has Christ with Belial? Or what portion does a believer share with an unbeliever?”
2 Corinthians 6:14-15 ESV
These are Americans, regardless of what they, or you, believe. The President is the elected representative leader of Americans. He's not the elected representative of your or anyone else's church, theology or belief.
Yeah fuck that. Mormon elders at that level are no more innocent than the Pope and his Cardinals.
Yet Trump met with the "pope".
We know that corruption has infiltrated almost every institution. So, I'm by no means saying that these guys are clean. But who is?
But what I am saying is, accusing Trump of somehow being theologically damned or saying that meeting with mormon church leaders because, well, they're mormons, that's out of bounds. It's actually why there is the first amendment.
He met with the Pope and the Pope ended up looking like a whipped dog, and lip readers interpreted Trump to be telling the Pope to look through a dossier he was giving him and "wear your little red shoes." The Pope and all of his cardinals are pedophiles, the Catholic Church is the biggest human trafficking and homosexual rape organization on the planet, and the Mormon church is just as bad, just not as big.
It's a valid point. The reason Trump met with the Pope certainly seems to be to execute the operation (i.e. via how world tour).
I don't know myself that Mormon church is just as bad. Certainly not as big, but also, the Vatican has centuries of blackness.
But there are a ton of mormons who are also good people, and who practice good things, regardless of theological position.
I don't have an issue with Trump meeting with their leadership.
But can you name ANY sized church institution in the US that is NOT corrupted?
I agree.
We recently watched a really good 2022 miniseries on the subject. The 7-episode series, called Under the Banner of Heaven is based on the true story of a 1984 crime spree committed in the safe and religious LDS haven of SLC, Utah.
The story covers a devout Mormon detective's investigation into a ghastly murder and his discovery of back-room secrets and cover-ups in his beloved church and the involvement of some of its most respected and prominent members.
The detective's unwavering commitment to his "Heavenly Father' becomes tested when he realizes his lifetime worship of a religion and teachings is based on a lie. His church elders reveal their quest for power, control and sexual promiscuity cloaked in the name of piousness and the requirement of the LDS wives to be completely subservient and obedient to any demand put upon them by the men of their church.
I recommend watching it.
Well said.
Quite right. Church and state should stay separate..I don't need to know what religion or sexual activities politicians engage in in private. It's none of my business
Is it just me or does the stunned look the guy on President Trump’s left look familiar? It reminds me of Jeb Bush when he looked at the letter at Herbert Walkers funeral.
Makes you wonder what President Trump meant when he said they had discussed things before the photo op.
Corruption is everywhere at the top and people have been duped.
Well how easy it is to found a new religion ? They are all registered as banks....profitable and gives à. little nobody immense closer...how easy is it to see an angel? Or a ballot light? That's all it takes...look them up!!
Immense power!
This is from four years ago.
Why post it here, and now? I’m sincerely interested.
Here’s a challenge for you: Go read the Book of Mormon. Focus on its message about secret combinations. Then give me an example of a book that better describes exactly what we’re experiencing around the world at this very moment. I’ll wait.
What is this "I'll wait" crap... You from Reddit?
The “I’ll wait” is an acknowledgment that people would rather reply with pithy quips rather than take the challenge.
You don’t have to like a religion to read its texts. All I’m saying is I know of no book that more clearly and more accurately describes the core problem that is ripping apart our nation, and the world: conspiratorial people making secret pacts for the purpose of gaining money and power, while stripping their fellow man of their inherent dignity.
Do you know of a book that does a better job?