We didn't have "compulsory Covid vaccination" in the U.S., nor did many other countries including Canada.
Instead... you couldn't travel unless "vaxxed", couldn't be employed unless "vaxxed", couldn't serve in the military unless "vaxxed", couldn't go into some bars, restaurants or stores unless "vaxxed", were discriminated against by hospitals and doctors unless "vaxxed", couldn't go to college or you kids couldn't attend schools unless "vaxxed", you couldn't play sports unless "vaxxed"...
So... the vax wasn't "compulsory" in law, but it WAS compulsory in reality. :>)
My wife works for a company who collects student loan debt so they are considered Govt contractors. The owner who i thought was a die hard Republican could not stop pushing everyone to get the jab, they talked about it everyday all day for 6 months easily.
Most of the employees never even seen each other because it went fully remote, but he still kept on HR executives to push the jab.
I feel so bad he was so blind and thought I was a conspiracy theorist. I was actually laughed at and ignored when I tried telling them about what was going on. I knew this entire thing was a sham from the beginning, no lie, never wore a mask. I told him and the other executives that this was too new and possibly dangerous to mandate. I knew them personally and went on out of work events with them.
Conclusion.... They made all employees get the shot. The owner is dead and died of 3 forms of cancer at 45 yrs old within 6 months of his first shot. Clean bill of health the yr before. I'm not sure if he died thinking he killed himself and possibly hurt all his employees and his immediate family.
Dude, I worked for the owner of s large company. 500 emloyees 3 states. Told him on day one it was war. 2 years later he told me he should have listened to me. Some people were more afraid for their business than their employees health. I don't work there any longer, but very few of my division got the jab.
I'm noticing that there are several "play straight by the rules" people that faithfully pursued getting their jabs ending up dead. The more time that passes from their injections however, fewer people will make the connections.
Or you have close friends who turn their back towards you for not getting the experimental shot - "it's your choice, you chose to follow the path of conspiracy theories and darkness. I read on xyz news that qanons and antivaxxers are splitting up friends and families"
The irony of that of course is they are the ones doing the splitting
In Canada at least, it was all done by virtue of the American equivalent of executive orders. There are already so many lawsuits going on involving the health departments. Alberta, for example, the trial got pushed back almost 2 years so far and has been waiting for a decision now for several months.
The interesting part in all this, again in Canada at least, is that you could not 'travel' unless vaxxed but to deny you travel is a crime that can be pursued, and similar across the board, they made it so that the people enforcing the mandates are criminally and civilly liable and then they would have to pursue their employers, etc... Doesn't mean one would be able to do these things, but in many cases the denial creates the 'damages' required for the lawsuits.
Quite correct. Many Governments don't have "compulsory Covid vaccination"
But many Mandates STILL required by: Employers, Cruise Lines, Resorts, Colleges and may well begin to see discrimination law suits.
Very well said fren. They know, at least here in the US, that they cannot officially mandate anything - at least on the Federal level that has weight across the country. The government does exert a certain amount of control over Federal employees and the military and the States also can also exert some control over their government employees depending on their own laws. For the rest of us they use private industry and organizations to do their dirty work. So just as you state, there may not be mandates in place officially, but in reality, the end result is the same.
We didn't have "compulsory Covid vaccination" in the U.S., nor did many other countries including Canada.
Instead... you couldn't travel unless "vaxxed", couldn't be employed unless "vaxxed", couldn't serve in the military unless "vaxxed", couldn't go into some bars, restaurants or stores unless "vaxxed", were discriminated against by hospitals and doctors unless "vaxxed", couldn't go to college or you kids couldn't attend schools unless "vaxxed", you couldn't play sports unless "vaxxed"...
So... the vax wasn't "compulsory" in law, but it WAS compulsory in reality. :>)
My wife works for a company who collects student loan debt so they are considered Govt contractors. The owner who i thought was a die hard Republican could not stop pushing everyone to get the jab, they talked about it everyday all day for 6 months easily. Most of the employees never even seen each other because it went fully remote, but he still kept on HR executives to push the jab. I feel so bad he was so blind and thought I was a conspiracy theorist. I was actually laughed at and ignored when I tried telling them about what was going on. I knew this entire thing was a sham from the beginning, no lie, never wore a mask. I told him and the other executives that this was too new and possibly dangerous to mandate. I knew them personally and went on out of work events with them. Conclusion.... They made all employees get the shot. The owner is dead and died of 3 forms of cancer at 45 yrs old within 6 months of his first shot. Clean bill of health the yr before. I'm not sure if he died thinking he killed himself and possibly hurt all his employees and his immediate family.
You can bet he didn’t think he killed himself. “It’s just a coincidence….my great aunts cousins pool boy had the same cancer. It runs in the family”
Dude, I worked for the owner of s large company. 500 emloyees 3 states. Told him on day one it was war. 2 years later he told me he should have listened to me. Some people were more afraid for their business than their employees health. I don't work there any longer, but very few of my division got the jab.
Both tragic and disgusting that I can't say "unbelievable". Love your username BTW.
He got what he desperately wanted. I feel nothing for these types.
I'm noticing that there are several "play straight by the rules" people that faithfully pursued getting their jabs ending up dead. The more time that passes from their injections however, fewer people will make the connections.
u/#correct
No laws just pressure by private entities.
And encouragement from Trump, who should apologize.
Or you have close friends who turn their back towards you for not getting the experimental shot - "it's your choice, you chose to follow the path of conspiracy theories and darkness. I read on xyz news that qanons and antivaxxers are splitting up friends and families"
The irony of that of course is they are the ones doing the splitting
None of it was signed into any law, AFAICT.
In Canada at least, it was all done by virtue of the American equivalent of executive orders. There are already so many lawsuits going on involving the health departments. Alberta, for example, the trial got pushed back almost 2 years so far and has been waiting for a decision now for several months.
The interesting part in all this, again in Canada at least, is that you could not 'travel' unless vaxxed but to deny you travel is a crime that can be pursued, and similar across the board, they made it so that the people enforcing the mandates are criminally and civilly liable and then they would have to pursue their employers, etc... Doesn't mean one would be able to do these things, but in many cases the denial creates the 'damages' required for the lawsuits.
You didn't have to do any of it. A friend's daughter goes to school in Scotland.
She is not vaxxed. She came back and forth through many airports.
The girl I work with her entire family is in Russia she is not vaxxed. She went to Russia no problem.
You needed to read the fine print.
Having corporations do the dirty work instead of the government is clasic NAZI.
Double speak, the criminals love it. Remember, war is peace. Health is sickness. Man is a woman.
Quite correct. Many Governments don't have "compulsory Covid vaccination" But many Mandates STILL required by: Employers, Cruise Lines, Resorts, Colleges and may well begin to see discrimination law suits.
Very well said fren. They know, at least here in the US, that they cannot officially mandate anything - at least on the Federal level that has weight across the country. The government does exert a certain amount of control over Federal employees and the military and the States also can also exert some control over their government employees depending on their own laws. For the rest of us they use private industry and organizations to do their dirty work. So just as you state, there may not be mandates in place officially, but in reality, the end result is the same.