What Does One Use To Charge An Electric Vehicle?
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The Electric Grid. Where does the electric grid get power from? Power Plants. What do power plants use to generate power? Predominantly Coal, Oil, Natural Gas, Nuclear Fission.
Why buy a battery powered car? So I can look down at all those people who use oil products to power their vehicles, knowing that I am superior when it comes to saving the planet.
As someone who owns an EV, maybe you shouldn’t try speaking for me. i bought mine because it’s very cheap too run as a commuter. Has nothing to do with saving the earth.
Yah, convenience is so nice if you can charge at home. And less maintenance. The downside is the dependence on the electrical grid + dirty lithium mining.
It's disappointing that EVs are associated with west-coast liberal snobs. They're very practical.
Maybe when this show ends, there will be new tech released like Nikola Tesla's free energy. That'll be neat and a win-win for everyone.
I get it. I'm not speaking for you, only those who have been deceived into thinking they are saving the planet by not burning oil products to run their battery charged vehicle, when in fact, they are.
How much did you pay for it? How much has your electric bill gone up? This doesn't sound very economical or fun. I'll stick to my paid off car that only takes 2 minutes to "charge up" at the nearest gas station and I don't have to 'recharge' it except every couple weeks or so.
https://www.theblaze.com/news/wsj-journalist-regrets-electric-car-road-trip
I paid $41,000 Canadian.
The car has paid for itself in fuel savings. I got a minimum of 2500km/month and that uses about $50 of electricity.
I’m not sure how telling everyone you’re a stupid faggot helps you, but okay, you do you.
faggot.
The alternator on my 100% gasoline powered engine charges my battery just fine.
It runs on unicorn farts.
New Zealand is trying to introduce a law that taxes cow and sheep farts, PPF. so Unicorns will also be taxable.
Farmers raise stink over New Zealand 'fart tax'
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/sep/05/australia.davidfickling
Whilst an EV runs on coal, my car runs on Dinosaurs! ;)
Why not just burn coal in the cars? We could skip the strip mining for the materials to make the batteries and we wouldn't have to worry about all the batteries that need to be recycled every few years. This would also avoid the problem of reduced range due to the need to recharge batteries. I know they intend to eliminate fossil fuels at some point, but we're nowhere near that point. We might have 10% of the infrastructure in place to facilitate changing over to an electric fleet. Probably less than that. And our country is trillions of dollars in debt already. Who is going to pay for all this?
They won't admit it, but this whole effort has nothing to do with climate change. They want to put personal transportation out of reach for most people so they can control us.
Exactly. Like they are doing with travel abroad...
Oil is not a fossil fuel........they lied. a landfill site will start oozing oil in less than fifteen years
They also can make petrol from plastic
Japanese had built a nice machine that does that ..... but it needs an external heat source to crack the plastic ....
Just a poor little decision by the .gov's not to implement my plan. Otherwise, the DSM plastics now being dumped in the Maas - River, could have been used for other purposes.
But eh ..... they are a very Green New Deal minded government.
I've seen people make comments about fossil fuels before but I've never dug into it. Do you have any resources you can point me to?
These are the real smart people! Follow the stars!
I saw a photo the other day of an electric car on the side of the road being charged by a gas-powered portable generator. KEK
From a technical standpoint, a powerplant is more efficient at turning heat into electricity. An electric motor is more efficient at turning energy into rotational motion.
The internal combustion engine sounds wonderful, has a soul… but is very inefficient.
Some context if it helps. gas has an energy potential of ~9kWh/L. I think diesel is 12. If we could get 100% of the stored energy in fuel and convert it to electricity… energy crisis solved.
1994 Infiniti Q45 4.5L V8 ~12.5L/100km = ~115kWh/100km.
2008 Ford Focus ~7L /100km = ~65kWh/100km.
2018 Nissan Leaf = 18kWh/100km.
The internal combustion engine is at most 40% efficient when fuelled with diesel.
You make valid arguments in terms of resources to build the ev. However in the right use cases (like mine, 50,000km/year) it is massively cost effective.
You are absolutely correct that liquid fuels are the most energy dense fuels we have available to us short of nuclear.
If you want to argue about mining and resources, we have strip mines and gaping holes in the Earth for just about every other modern convenience. Thus, this argument is moot.
In 180,000km my ev completely paid for itself in fuel savings compared to the car it replaced (1994 Q45, 4.5L v8).
The economic argument is very narrow, there shouldn’t be tax payer subsidy on them, and they are a terrible choice for low mileage use cases. Battery life is tied to how much it gets used and if it’s properly charged or not.
All that said, I still prefer driving my turbo diesel when I can justify it.
Toyota has developed an engine capable of 40% combustion efficiency out of petrol. The Drive's Article Which I believe is the highest efficiency for a soon to be commercially available combustion engine.
EV batteries are my main concern for myself to get one, Electric motors are definitely gonna be a contender for the replacement of combustion engines in the future; until some new engine/motor technology is developed. The battery technology is what's holding EV back. In my opinion, the technology isn't ready to mass replace and kill off combustion based vehicles, it's something that should happen naturally, not be forced upon society. Everyone didn't sell their horses and wagons to by a car in the late 1800s, early 1900s.
Additionally, I don't think there's a company that has an EV semi truck (Volvo and Tesla were developing some) or locomotive available for commercial consumers, so that's another thing that seems to be over looked by people who say "the world needs to be EV NOW." (Not saying that's you)
Batteries are part of the problem. The more crucial problem is the transfer of energy. Pumping 90L of diesel takes 2-3minutes and you’ve moved a megawatt of potential energy. Move a megawatt in that time frame is impossible to achieve at the automotive scale.
EVs have their place, are very useful, but until we can store electricity at the same density of fuel, they are not a replacement. Thus I agree with the assessment that the push to force ev is more about controlling mobility.
Lithium fires are insane, is every fire department equipped to handle a potential for a serious fire at car crash? Or all car crashes if every vehicle is EV?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PLxPAwIeL0w
This shit is psychological warfare.
I wonder if the push for EVs is not for the environment but control. They can just flip the switch and nobody can charge their cars another way to force lockdowns. I can travel between 3 states and have not found a single charging station anywhere.
Same with bitcoins and computer money. Just shut off the power and youre broke.
I get power outs during storms and am glad I'm home when it happens.