https://t.me/bioclandestine/414
Alright, this is going to be a very uncomfortable conversation for many, but someone needs to step up. This is a topic I never directly talk about, but today we are going to talk about it. We are going to have an adult conversation about Q. More specifically, the people who talk about Q, the Anons.
To preface my statements, those that have known me, know I go back to the beginning. I’ve been following the drops since Halloween, 2017. I used to be popular anon on Twitter under many different names, I’ve read every drop a plethora of times. I’ve followed the entire time. I’m an Anon, I just intentionally avoid directly talk about Q to create a message more digestible for normies, and all those who are turned off by the Q community.
So Q is back to posting after zero comms for 18 months, which has obviously sparked a lot of excitement in the Anon community. But with this excitement, comes a slew of new terrible decodes/interpretations and egregious stretches to make connections that simply are not there.
Folks, you need to recognize that it’s different this time around. We have built a big-ass audience over the past 18 months. We are literally the news now. I’m breaking massive stories like Russia targeting US biolabs, while the media are praising nazis and pushing fake war propaganda. Big name guests like Gregg Phillips, Kash Patel, Dinesh D’Souza, Trump’s Lawyer Peter Ticktin, etc., have been coming onto Anon podcasts and shows. A lot of people come to Anons for their news now, because the media have completely fallen off of a cliff and we are providing the ACTUAL NEWS.
Not with drops and decodes, but with real-world proofs like Biden tanking the country, gas prices, election fraud via mail-in voting, C19 came from Wuhan lab, Durham, Russia accusing the DNC of crimes against humanity via bio-genocide, Hunter Biden laptop and dirty dealings in Ukraine, Epstein. All these real-world proofs have drawn people to us, because we were right about all this stuff and the MSM was dead wrong.
Now that Q is back, this actual news and proof will be muddied with popular Anons in the community making asinine “decodes” like finding 765 spaces between the words in a random drop, dividing it by 17 and it equals 45, and that somehow means that all of Q is legitimate.
Stuff like this may be fun for people, but it doesn’t help the movement in any way. All of the people who are going to buy into these ridiculous non-connections are people who already follow Q. You’re not waking anyone up. You’re not helping. But here’s how it hurts the movement:
-it gives critics low hanging fruit to discredit -it deters normies because it doesn’t make any sense or prove anything -it lessens the impact of real proofs via association
I was inspired by a Truth from @IET17 and he’s 100% correct.
“The time for obscure, reaching, and convoluted proofs is over.”
I couldn’t agree more. Clearly I don’t speak for everyone, but I highly suggest the entire Anon community do a serious self-evaluation of themselves, as well of what content they deem viable to post/promote.
Too many in the community forget what the main objective of the mission is. The mission is NOT to see who can get the most followers or get 10k likes on a funny meme. The mission is to wake up normies to assist white hats with global acceptance for high profile arrests and crimes against humanity. That’s your one job, and it’s LONG overdue for everyone start taking it more seriously.
Shape your message to reach a broader audience instead of catering to the same echo chamber. Stop trying to legitimize Q with decodes, and let the real-world proofs come in real time. We’ve seen a million of them. We don’t have to make any up.
Use discernment before posting something. If you have to think if it’s a proof, it’s not a proof. There should be ZERO stretching involved. Stop trying to find 17s in everything. Just talk about the content of the drops, and how they relate to the real-world happenings. THATS IT.
Look at the MSM, the first thing they bring up about “QAnon” followers is that they think JFK Jr. is alive and working with Trump and “2 more weeks”. Subjects made up by followers, completely unrelated to the drops, Q directly refutes it, and it’s still the first things the critics resort to when looking to discredit Q.
The things critics point to, are never directly from Q, it’s always from followers who don’t know how to interpret the drops or Anons guessing on dates that big things will happen. The critics point to these things instead of the drops themselves, because quite frankly, Q was right about pretty much everything, with the major exception being that people will be held accountable, which obviously hasn’t happened.
The overall themes and narratives incontrovertibly have validity, and that’s all we need to wake up normies. The story given to them by the MSM has fallen apart and people are looking for alternative sources for news. We claim we are the news now, it’s time everyone started acting like it.
Big name accounts, people with large followings, please, use some discernment and stop reaching for stuff that’s not there.
Anon community, please, use some discernment on who you follow and what you promote.
I know these are exciting for the community, but everyone needs to recognize the opportunity we have here. We need to get organized, and everyone needs to understand your role in the mission and execute said role. That’s it. Your mission is to wake up normies, not scare them away. DO YOUR JOB!
Respectfully,
-Clandestine
Yeah... Until you do the math yourself.
It's extremely asinine of this Biowhoever to one, try and establish credibility with "I've been an anon in many different users and was popular" to then two, "don't share obscure decodes." I appreciate your contributions, but that does not give you authority to dictate what people are allowed to discuss. Like fuck right off with that authoritarian none senese- even our rules aren't that strict.
I'm not throwing shade at any good decodes using math, but some of the insane stretches we have seen!
So? It's people sharing ideas. If it's too far then articulate why.
But to stifle and regulate discussion is wrong.
come on youve got to admit some people go off the rails with the decodes....
And? Most of the time the community discusses it and often times the anon who theorized the idea is given alternative ideas that would not have otherwise happened had they not asked.
Wrong shaming is a practice that also needs to end. Just because someone has an outlandish idea does not merit them being silenced.
they are time wasting op and a strawman op, imo
How do you know it's a waste of time if you stifle and regulate the ideas people have and shut them down before entertaining them and giving them a chance? Which will also make people less likely to share potentially good ideas by promoting a culture of people being scared to share their ideas.
You can't come to an informed conclusion on someone's possible decode if you just hand wave it as a waste of time. Sure you might get rid of some junk but you could be missing some real gems as well.
Sharing an idea or perspective is not a waste of time. What is, however is one word doomerfag whining. Participation is optional here.
You definitely make some solid points on the flip side of the coin.
Maybe we stick to our strategy, but enhance it? Theory (765 spaces etc...) is labeled as such. We need theories! Normies need good memes, truth, news, and that will build confidence. I hope we can start finding a way to share out back up info with means. We think XYZ, want to know how, follow the QR code...
We do a good job of sorting our topics by theories and facts. I myself post "THEORY" in my post headers. If someone uses that as an excuse to ignore Q, that is on them.
Now if an Anon tells a normie they're a fucking retard, that is also wrong.
IMO - we could do better. I constantly find myself adding much more explanation, information etc when I share something with my Normie friends. I agree that a lot of posts are well thought out, well vetted, and Normie friendly. We also have a lot of posts that are the opposite. Maybe what I am envisioning is a blog site? Perhaps with a different format? Here is the meme, and a QR code sends you to a blogs spot that has research links, archived data etc... Truthfully I am spitballing. I guess i am looking for a way for Normies to get surprised by a video of Biden saying he is against abortion, for long terms, using racial slurs (for example). One of the things that drew me into this community was the wealth of information. The downside was months of rabbit holes... Maybe we need to push the rabbit holes into the normie sphere somehow.
You could always message the mods with this idea and see about having an archive link at the top of the site that links to a post with all the vetted and normie-speak theories. It would also help if you volunteered to help compile such a post.
At the same time, having to decide for ourselves is part of the game. You found the stuff that made sense to you and your friends. So it seems the system is working. It boils down to the free speech paradox. Being for free speech means having to accept things you don't agree with. More specifically here "Q related posts" mean that some people will be sharing their crack pot ideas. However to censor them outright is wrong. Can we do better? Yes, and I am trying.
Hmmmm...I might have to get rid of my t-shirt that says "Normies are fucking retards".
We call normies retards in this group as a way of internal venting so around your house and at a future anon gathering, sure go ahead. However... I don't know... maybe it's a shirt that can spark a conversation. My point is directly calling a normie a retard in discussion. Or any other number of pointless names... we do need to be better with how we treat our friends and family even when they mistreat us.
You have a good point that anons should be free to brainstorm. Bioclandestine also has a good point that we should spare normies the esoteric stuff. We should know our audience and save different levels of awakening for different sets and settings.
All that Clandestine wrote is the gist of 4148
The news is dead. You are what matters now. Handle with care. Q
Your taking exception to it is a twisting of the intent and meaning, in order to take offense.
As evidenced by your ludicrous interpretation that somehow Clandestine is asserting authority to tell others what to do, or even attempting to dictate what others should discuss.
Your response here is disingenuous. Disagree with OP if you want, but I strongly suggest (oh, sorry, didn't mean to dictate to you.... /s) that you leave the concocted outrage to the Leftists and cultural Marxists, and stick to doing what you usually do well; analysis.