Edited for clarity.
I guess I should mention also that there were 3 brothers before the one who passed. All had vax's up to date. Only one died. Now, by '67 when I was born, there was a vax that they got, but I did not. I do not know which one but my brothers all said I was lucky because it hurt really bad. My point is, out of a total of 5 boys, all vaxxed, only one died, and they called it SIDS. Original post below:
It's strange. Im on the fence about SIDS. Not SADS. Hear me out on my skepticism. I was born in '67. Vaccinated as was required as a child. But I had a brother born in '62 who had less vaccines than I, but died at 8 months old. Dr's said it was SIDS. Drove my dad crazy, thinking he somehow killed my brother. I also had a cousin in the late '50s, who died at 3 months, Dr's said it was SIDS. Maybe current vax schedules for children is a problem. I'll agree to that. But I don't think the vax's back then were the issue. SIDS could be a real thing. But SADS? Now, that shit is vax induced all the way. See above for clarity
Idk....out of 5 boys my parents had, only one died. Three oldest had same vax's the one who died had. I missed one vax because it was no longer offered when I was of age for it. Not saying your statement isn't true. Just saying I've not researched it at all.
If true, as I have never research it, that does not explain why my 3 older brothers are still alive and well. DTP may be the vax i did not get. I know my brothers said it hurt really bad and left a round scar on their arm. Looks like twenty needles hit them all at once. Is that DTP? I seriously do not know.
Yes. And just like not everyone who smokes gets cancer, not everyone who eats McDonald's daily is unhealthy. Not everyone has allergies. Not everyone who drinks becomes an alcoholic. Our bodies are all different.
No, I'm saying I'm not fully convinced that DTP causes SIDS. Could be, but there's not enough evidence that it does or doesn't. If it were like the C19 vax, then I'd say hell yes. There's way more evidence of mRNA vax causing serious bodily harm up to and including death. But the older style vax's from the '50s and '60s did not have the wide spread issues of today's vax's.
They must have stopped mid '60's. Like I said, I was born in '67 and did not recieve that vax. Unless my parents went rogue! Lol! Mom hated taking us for shots so thats possible too!
I would tend to agree. On the fence about them causing anywhere near the same amount of sudden deaths as the Covid therapeutic shot causes, but wouldn't surprise me if they are known at some level to cause some amount of issue.
But people are forgetting what was going on before the vaccines, and we live in a world - especially a country that has been shielded by the effects of not vaccinating your kids for a few generations now. The world of non vaccinated kids was horrific - and guaranteed if we stopped doing it even people on these boards who are super anti-vaccine would be begging doctors to vaccinate their kids to stop some of these illnesses that would start showing up.
Bullshit. Diseases in our world took a steep nosedive when sanitation standards improved. Plain and simple. Running water and washing hands has done more for public health than any "vaccine".
Improvements in sanitation are obviously important, but that alone is not the cause of the decrease of diseases.
If it was, then all diseases would have decreased at the same time. But if you look at the rates of these diseases over time, you will notice that cases did not permanently decrease until after a vaccine for the particular disease was implemented.
For instance, polio cases dropped drastically after the vaccine was introduced in the 1950s. But chickenpox didn't decrease significantly until the chicken pox vaccine was introduced in the 1990s.
If you look at each disease we currently vaccinate for, you'll see that this trend continues.
And there's a reason why I used the phrase "permanently decrease" above. Epidemics frequently look like roller-coasters when graphed. Cases spike during the worst part of the epidemic, then fall when the epidemic is over. If someone wanted to make it look like diseases were going away before a vaccine was introduced, they would cherry pick a date that ended at the end of an epidemic. It's after vaccines are introduced that epidemics end for a disease.
And if there are increased cases of the disease, they are almost always because of reduced vaccination rates. And don't confuse death rates with case rates. We're always developing new antibiotics and medications that save people from dying of diseases.
I mention these last few things because they're frequently brought up in these arguments. Someone will invariably post some cherry picked dates at the end of an epidemic, or post something about cases spiking recently or changing the topic from case rates to death rates (chickenpox) and such. Hopefully people who respond to this post will read it through before jumping in to post and make my point for me.
Never. Not me. It took me 22 years of researching to be sure I made the right decision to stop vaccinating my children when they were preschool age....and my confidence in that decision is stronger than ever. We have been lied to about how effective vaccines were. The insurance companies and schools and doctors have all been lied to. Even the creators of them said they should only be used in an outbreak not prophylactically. There are too many risks.
There's a saying that vaccines are the victim of their own success. We rarely see any of those diseases that vaccines prevent, so they're not real to us.
You would have received less than 6 vaccines as a child if you're 67. You didn't receive what kids recieve today. Nor did the ones you received have the same ingredients/components as today's versions nor are they ingredients produced in the US (most are from china). They used to be single dose vials with no need for preservative now it's more economical and convenient (aka profitable) for them to be in multi dose vials (w need for preservative). The vial must be properly shaken prior to withdrawing each dose or there's a risk of the bottom of the vial doses to have a higher concentration of the toxic preservative.
Now that's just speaking for the approx 6 that are like the ones you received. Kids today receive 72 and start at a much earlier age. In the early 90's there was a CDC campaign called "immunize by age 2"
I was born in '67. Im 55. But yes, kids today are over vaxxed, no doubt. I was just referring to the fact that I did not get one of the vax's my older brothers got, but one did die from SIDS. Maybe vax related, maybe not. Im just not convinced it was.
My mother told me the Dr's told her to get pregnant to get my dad back to normal. I guess kind of like falling off a horse. Just get back on! Lol! I'm the youngest so they gave up after me.
Edited for clarity. I guess I should mention also that there were 3 brothers before the one who passed. All had vax's up to date. Only one died. Now, by '67 when I was born, there was a vax that they got, but I did not. I do not know which one but my brothers all said I was lucky because it hurt really bad. My point is, out of a total of 5 boys, all vaxxed, only one died, and they called it SIDS. Original post below: It's strange. Im on the fence about SIDS. Not SADS. Hear me out on my skepticism. I was born in '67. Vaccinated as was required as a child. But I had a brother born in '62 who had less vaccines than I, but died at 8 months old. Dr's said it was SIDS. Drove my dad crazy, thinking he somehow killed my brother. I also had a cousin in the late '50s, who died at 3 months, Dr's said it was SIDS. Maybe current vax schedules for children is a problem. I'll agree to that. But I don't think the vax's back then were the issue. SIDS could be a real thing. But SADS? Now, that shit is vax induced all the way. See above for clarity
sir, it's much worse. not only do vaccines cause "SIDS",
but "SIDS" itself, was invented for the sole purpose of covering up the fact that vaccines kill babies.
every vaccine list "death" as a potential risk,
but they never put vaccine as the cause of death.
they always call it "SIDS".
it isn't that the medical establishment is ignorant, and doesn't truly know what causes SIDS,
the medical establishment thinks you are an idiot, and will treat you accordingly.
thats why it was so easy for them to roll out "SADS"
its their playbook.
but this time, we have the internet, and we can talk about all the shady stuff that goes on.
Are you saying there was no such thing as sudden infant deaths before vaccines were invented?
I'm curious why most cases of SIDS happen exactly at 2 months, 4 months, and 6 months of age.
What do you mean? Like to the day? I'd have to look at the actual stats to make an informed response.
Idk....out of 5 boys my parents had, only one died. Three oldest had same vax's the one who died had. I missed one vax because it was no longer offered when I was of age for it. Not saying your statement isn't true. Just saying I've not researched it at all.
If true, as I have never research it, that does not explain why my 3 older brothers are still alive and well. DTP may be the vax i did not get. I know my brothers said it hurt really bad and left a round scar on their arm. Looks like twenty needles hit them all at once. Is that DTP? I seriously do not know.
They harm children, some die. If every time a child got a Vax, they died, that would immediately stop all vaccines. This is a stealth operation.
Yes. And just like not everyone who smokes gets cancer, not everyone who eats McDonald's daily is unhealthy. Not everyone has allergies. Not everyone who drinks becomes an alcoholic. Our bodies are all different.
No, I'm saying I'm not fully convinced that DTP causes SIDS. Could be, but there's not enough evidence that it does or doesn't. If it were like the C19 vax, then I'd say hell yes. There's way more evidence of mRNA vax causing serious bodily harm up to and including death. But the older style vax's from the '50s and '60s did not have the wide spread issues of today's vax's.
That would be the smallpox vaccine. A scab would form over the injection site and later fall off, leaving a big round scar.
They stopped giving that vaccine in the mid-70s because smallpox has been eliminated. It only exists in bio-labs now.
Military still gets it. I got it in boot camp and a booster when I deployed to Kuwait.
They must have stopped mid '60's. Like I said, I was born in '67 and did not recieve that vax. Unless my parents went rogue! Lol! Mom hated taking us for shots so thats possible too!
I would tend to agree. On the fence about them causing anywhere near the same amount of sudden deaths as the Covid therapeutic shot causes, but wouldn't surprise me if they are known at some level to cause some amount of issue.
But people are forgetting what was going on before the vaccines, and we live in a world - especially a country that has been shielded by the effects of not vaccinating your kids for a few generations now. The world of non vaccinated kids was horrific - and guaranteed if we stopped doing it even people on these boards who are super anti-vaccine would be begging doctors to vaccinate their kids to stop some of these illnesses that would start showing up.
Bullshit. Diseases in our world took a steep nosedive when sanitation standards improved. Plain and simple. Running water and washing hands has done more for public health than any "vaccine".
Improvements in sanitation are obviously important, but that alone is not the cause of the decrease of diseases.
If it was, then all diseases would have decreased at the same time. But if you look at the rates of these diseases over time, you will notice that cases did not permanently decrease until after a vaccine for the particular disease was implemented.
For instance, polio cases dropped drastically after the vaccine was introduced in the 1950s. But chickenpox didn't decrease significantly until the chicken pox vaccine was introduced in the 1990s.
If you look at each disease we currently vaccinate for, you'll see that this trend continues.
And there's a reason why I used the phrase "permanently decrease" above. Epidemics frequently look like roller-coasters when graphed. Cases spike during the worst part of the epidemic, then fall when the epidemic is over. If someone wanted to make it look like diseases were going away before a vaccine was introduced, they would cherry pick a date that ended at the end of an epidemic. It's after vaccines are introduced that epidemics end for a disease.
And if there are increased cases of the disease, they are almost always because of reduced vaccination rates. And don't confuse death rates with case rates. We're always developing new antibiotics and medications that save people from dying of diseases.
I mention these last few things because they're frequently brought up in these arguments. Someone will invariably post some cherry picked dates at the end of an epidemic, or post something about cases spiking recently or changing the topic from case rates to death rates (chickenpox) and such. Hopefully people who respond to this post will read it through before jumping in to post and make my point for me.
Let me guess, airplanes fly over your house spraying chemicals and the earth is flat?
Never. Not me. It took me 22 years of researching to be sure I made the right decision to stop vaccinating my children when they were preschool age....and my confidence in that decision is stronger than ever. We have been lied to about how effective vaccines were. The insurance companies and schools and doctors have all been lied to. Even the creators of them said they should only be used in an outbreak not prophylactically. There are too many risks.
There's a saying that vaccines are the victim of their own success. We rarely see any of those diseases that vaccines prevent, so they're not real to us.
You would have received less than 6 vaccines as a child if you're 67. You didn't receive what kids recieve today. Nor did the ones you received have the same ingredients/components as today's versions nor are they ingredients produced in the US (most are from china). They used to be single dose vials with no need for preservative now it's more economical and convenient (aka profitable) for them to be in multi dose vials (w need for preservative). The vial must be properly shaken prior to withdrawing each dose or there's a risk of the bottom of the vial doses to have a higher concentration of the toxic preservative.
Now that's just speaking for the approx 6 that are like the ones you received. Kids today receive 72 and start at a much earlier age. In the early 90's there was a CDC campaign called "immunize by age 2"
I was born in '67. Im 55. But yes, kids today are over vaxxed, no doubt. I was just referring to the fact that I did not get one of the vax's my older brothers got, but one did die from SIDS. Maybe vax related, maybe not. Im just not convinced it was.
I'm so sorry about your brother and cousin. I can't imagine the turmoil your dad went through on that.
My mother told me the Dr's told her to get pregnant to get my dad back to normal. I guess kind of like falling off a horse. Just get back on! Lol! I'm the youngest so they gave up after me.
That's some of the most retarded shit I've ever read. Not you saying it, but a doctor saying it.