1a: a native or naturalized person who owes allegiance to a government and is entitled to protection from it
Choose the Right Synonym for citizen
CITIZEN, SUBJECT, NATIONAL mean a person owing allegiance to and entitled to the protection of a sovereign state.
CITIZEN is preferred for one owing allegiance to a state in which sovereign power is retained by the people and sharing in the political rights of those people. the rights of a free citizen
SUBJECT implies allegiance to a personal sovereign such as a monarch. the king's subjects
[Being a Subject seems more like being a colonist to King George to me. More like a slave in that respect.]
NATIONAL designates one who may claim the protection of a state and applies especially to one living or traveling outside that state. American nationals working in the Middle East
Big caveat. I don't trust dictionaries anymore. I just grabbed the above because it was easy and what I would have relied on in the past. It may be accurate. I hope it is. Just wanted to throw that out there.
I would be interested in knowing more about why you feel being a citizen is being a slave? In my mind, being a citizen is what guarantees our rights in the US Constitution. Our rights in the US Constitution guarantee our Bill of Rights and guarantees our right to pursue Life, Liberty, and The Pursuit of Happiness demanded in our Declaration of Independence from England.
I'm a Latinist. Despite my education, I have learned the instincts of my father (Vietnam Vet) are often correct--and way ahead of me. Perhaps what you are instinctually sensing is the status of citizen as slave to a state that may not be functioning as a democratic republic, as established. I suspect you're onto something. There is info out there suggesting this government is not what we think it is.
Historical note: According to Tacitus's Annales, it seems many Romans thought they could re-establish the actual Republic after the domination of Augustus. They were wrong.
Have you looked into parse syntax? A friend recently showed me a video on it...not really sure how I feel about it, this guy makes some big claims and I'm not exactly buying it... although I'm open to the possibility. Crazy-long video, but here's a link...https://youtu.be/yTxWBNi_6tQ
I'm fairly certain that right at this point on this planet, nobody else is talking about parse syntax. Just my opinion though, and I don't even know what it is😉
Parsee syntax grammar is a real thing. An invented useful tool. Combined with a foremsically solid blockchain yku could store records with date and time stamps. This would provide rhe proper validation of ownership, time Nd space onThe blockchain. The grammar would stop fraudulent language like legalese because it is mathematically verified. This has huge implications on the civil legal system and the fraudulent language of legalese in which a word can have multiple meanings to be determined at a later date by a judge who knows nothing about the contract.
It would force honesty in contracts like mortgages mortgage = death pledge fr. Language wise, what if all mortgage contracts were found fraudulent due to bad language.
I think it could be kept simple.
Block chain patents, trademarks etc to keep the government from hiding stuff from us.
It's a scam. The parse syntax stuff is real but the dude is straight crazy. Watch the videos where he gets angry calling himself the biggest badass in the world. It's quite hilarious and shows a lack of emotional intelligence. I would like to believe he is just a part of the overall WH attack from all angles but he lacks the professionalism to seem like he's part of anything more than a grift or scam.
Couldn't have said it better myself fren! My gut told me the same, there's definitely something to this parse syntax stuff, but this fuggin guy!.. reminds me of the hippies muddying the water when it comes to the new age shit, yeah there's a lot of Truth in what they say but the approach and the way they package their information is garbage.
Certainly not intending to call you out. Just trying to enhance the discussion and dig into it a bit.
This is a very important discussion and worth this community understanding as deeply as possible.
I see your other comment on this thread as well so I'll just keep my response to both in this same comment.
First of all, I would love for someone to go in to more detail about birth certificates and what they actually mean. If the United States actually became a corporation and is no longer a sovereign entity that was established between 1776 and 1789 (from declaration of independence, through the articles of confederation, and up to the ratification of the United States Constitution) then that is a full stop moment. Why the hell wouldn't we still be the nation we were founded as? Again, someone else better informed should explain this to all of us, with sauce.
The use of the word Citizen, Subject, and National is critical to this discussion.
Subjects basically are slaves. They have to do what their king or feudal lord tells them to do. That's not us.
Nationals are citizens of one country that are in other countries for work or travel. If you are a US national in Syria and shit hits the fan, you go to the embassy, and as a US national, you have rights at that embassy. They can get you out, etc.
Citizens are what I believe we are if we live in the country of our birth and retain our loyalty to our nation. If you come to our country Illegally, you are not a citizen. If you are visiting, you are not a citizen.
Only Citizens have the right to vote. If this were not the case, a foreign country could send their people in to vote and completely destroy a country. (Makes you wonder if that is exactly what is happening, doesn't it?)
In the United States, our government only exists by the Consent of the Governed. Only Citizens can provide that Consent to our government. People tend to take the point of view that there is nothing we can do about our federal government. It's too big. Too powerful. Etc.
This is not true at all. If the Citizens of the United States decide to no longer provide consent to the government we agreed to let run our nation, that government no longer exists. Individual States have also provided their consent to the federal government. If those states no longer consent to be part of the federal government, they could take action to leave the union. We've fought a civil war over this idea in the past. So we all know it can happen.
The wisdom of our Founding Father's was to restrict the power of the federal government. The only powers the federal government has are those powers explicitly granted to the federal government in the US Constitution. All other powers are reserved for the States, or The People.
"The People" referenced in the constitution are the Citizens of the United States.
This is why I believe the term Citizen is so important and powerful.
We The People are Citizens of the United States of America.
No brother, I'm not looking to fool myself. You helped me. So thanks a bunch.
I am told that understanding maritime and admiralty law is key understand this. They view us from a different light than what we are taught.
Born of water at sea, a Registered person called a nurse Assigns us a numbered certificate, we are in a Ward under the state until that certificate is issued. Their language.
Hoping u/VetforTrump will ping me when they get time to respond to you. I have learned so much about life from listening to others education on vocabulary & life.
Thank you. Sounds similar to a Sovereign Citizen movement, though there is some guy who teaches why that doesn't work, even though they are mostly correct.
I need to find their info again, at the very least the lesson they taught was fascination & follow much of what I learned about in my 20s.
Got it, so the birth certificates are what have made us all slaves (possibly under admiralty law) from what was explained to me) & so the use of the word does not negate the contract that was signed by our parents at birth.
I really am hoping this awakening brings back the rule of a constitutional republic & a simplicity in the law for all to follow easily & be able to fight corruption with.
This made me want to look it up and think about it u/VetforTrump. I always appreciate your posts and comments.
Here is what I found from here.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/citizen#synonym-discussion
Definition of citizen
1a: a native or naturalized person who owes allegiance to a government and is entitled to protection from it
Choose the Right Synonym for citizen
CITIZEN, SUBJECT, NATIONAL mean a person owing allegiance to and entitled to the protection of a sovereign state.
CITIZEN is preferred for one owing allegiance to a state in which sovereign power is retained by the people and sharing in the political rights of those people. the rights of a free citizen
SUBJECT implies allegiance to a personal sovereign such as a monarch. the king's subjects
[Being a Subject seems more like being a colonist to King George to me. More like a slave in that respect.]
NATIONAL designates one who may claim the protection of a state and applies especially to one living or traveling outside that state. American nationals working in the Middle East
Big caveat. I don't trust dictionaries anymore. I just grabbed the above because it was easy and what I would have relied on in the past. It may be accurate. I hope it is. Just wanted to throw that out there.
I would be interested in knowing more about why you feel being a citizen is being a slave? In my mind, being a citizen is what guarantees our rights in the US Constitution. Our rights in the US Constitution guarantee our Bill of Rights and guarantees our right to pursue Life, Liberty, and The Pursuit of Happiness demanded in our Declaration of Independence from England.
What did the Roman Republic call those with voting rights and what did they call slaves?
I don't know personally but I'm sure there is a difference between slave and citizen.
So I'm uncertain where VetforTrump gets his definition of citizen = slave. Unless he is implying that the definition has shifted.
civis=citizen, but their voting was not democratic. (civil, civics, etc.)
servus=slave (servant, servitude, etc.)
If you were a citizen, during imperial rule, you could appeal to the emperor and be given death via beheading (merciful death) (St. Paul.)
A noncitizen was executed via other means, like crucifixion, a slave's death (St. Peter.)
Thanks for squaring me away sir good post.
I'm a Latinist. Despite my education, I have learned the instincts of my father (Vietnam Vet) are often correct--and way ahead of me. Perhaps what you are instinctually sensing is the status of citizen as slave to a state that may not be functioning as a democratic republic, as established. I suspect you're onto something. There is info out there suggesting this government is not what we think it is.
Historical note: According to Tacitus's Annales, it seems many Romans thought they could re-establish the actual Republic after the domination of Augustus. They were wrong.
Thank you for your past and continued service.
Thanks! So we can say that Trump using citizen does not mean he is calling people slaves.
The difference between Republic Rome and Imperial Rome is wild.
Yes, the Republic to Empire is a vast, complicated history.
Have you looked into parse syntax? A friend recently showed me a video on it...not really sure how I feel about it, this guy makes some big claims and I'm not exactly buying it... although I'm open to the possibility. Crazy-long video, but here's a link...https://youtu.be/yTxWBNi_6tQ
I'm fairly certain that right at this point on this planet, nobody else is talking about parse syntax. Just my opinion though, and I don't even know what it is😉
Parsee syntax grammar is a real thing. An invented useful tool. Combined with a foremsically solid blockchain yku could store records with date and time stamps. This would provide rhe proper validation of ownership, time Nd space onThe blockchain. The grammar would stop fraudulent language like legalese because it is mathematically verified. This has huge implications on the civil legal system and the fraudulent language of legalese in which a word can have multiple meanings to be determined at a later date by a judge who knows nothing about the contract.
It would force honesty in contracts like mortgages mortgage = death pledge fr. Language wise, what if all mortgage contracts were found fraudulent due to bad language.
I think it could be kept simple.
Block chain patents, trademarks etc to keep the government from hiding stuff from us.
It's a scam. The parse syntax stuff is real but the dude is straight crazy. Watch the videos where he gets angry calling himself the biggest badass in the world. It's quite hilarious and shows a lack of emotional intelligence. I would like to believe he is just a part of the overall WH attack from all angles but he lacks the professionalism to seem like he's part of anything more than a grift or scam.
Couldn't have said it better myself fren! My gut told me the same, there's definitely something to this parse syntax stuff, but this fuggin guy!.. reminds me of the hippies muddying the water when it comes to the new age shit, yeah there's a lot of Truth in what they say but the approach and the way they package their information is garbage.
It had to do with the original entymology.
Let me check with my son. I may have misunderstood what he told me. He's a crypto linguist did 8 years In Marsoc.
Something he was taught at DLI Meanwhile thanks for calling me out on it.
Thanks u/VetForTrump 👈🏻
Certainly not intending to call you out. Just trying to enhance the discussion and dig into it a bit.
This is a very important discussion and worth this community understanding as deeply as possible.
I see your other comment on this thread as well so I'll just keep my response to both in this same comment.
First of all, I would love for someone to go in to more detail about birth certificates and what they actually mean. If the United States actually became a corporation and is no longer a sovereign entity that was established between 1776 and 1789 (from declaration of independence, through the articles of confederation, and up to the ratification of the United States Constitution) then that is a full stop moment. Why the hell wouldn't we still be the nation we were founded as? Again, someone else better informed should explain this to all of us, with sauce.
The use of the word Citizen, Subject, and National is critical to this discussion.
Subjects basically are slaves. They have to do what their king or feudal lord tells them to do. That's not us.
Nationals are citizens of one country that are in other countries for work or travel. If you are a US national in Syria and shit hits the fan, you go to the embassy, and as a US national, you have rights at that embassy. They can get you out, etc.
Citizens are what I believe we are if we live in the country of our birth and retain our loyalty to our nation. If you come to our country Illegally, you are not a citizen. If you are visiting, you are not a citizen.
Only Citizens have the right to vote. If this were not the case, a foreign country could send their people in to vote and completely destroy a country. (Makes you wonder if that is exactly what is happening, doesn't it?)
In the United States, our government only exists by the Consent of the Governed. Only Citizens can provide that Consent to our government. People tend to take the point of view that there is nothing we can do about our federal government. It's too big. Too powerful. Etc.
This is not true at all. If the Citizens of the United States decide to no longer provide consent to the government we agreed to let run our nation, that government no longer exists. Individual States have also provided their consent to the federal government. If those states no longer consent to be part of the federal government, they could take action to leave the union. We've fought a civil war over this idea in the past. So we all know it can happen.
The wisdom of our Founding Father's was to restrict the power of the federal government. The only powers the federal government has are those powers explicitly granted to the federal government in the US Constitution. All other powers are reserved for the States, or The People.
"The People" referenced in the constitution are the Citizens of the United States.
This is why I believe the term Citizen is so important and powerful.
We The People are Citizens of the United States of America.
No brother, I'm not looking to fool myself. You helped me. So thanks a bunch.
I am told that understanding maritime and admiralty law is key understand this. They view us from a different light than what we are taught.
Born of water at sea, a Registered person called a nurse Assigns us a numbered certificate, we are in a Ward under the state until that certificate is issued. Their language.
There is no question our government views us as their slaves. I can agree with that.
But we view the government working for us and only existing because of our consent.
These are the types of things that lead to major conflict as both sides declare they are right.
Thank you for your discussion on this brother. I truly appreciate your opinions.
u/#wwg1wga
Hoping u/VetforTrump will ping me when they get time to respond to you. I have learned so much about life from listening to others education on vocabulary & life.
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Thank you. Sounds similar to a Sovereign Citizen movement, though there is some guy who teaches why that doesn't work, even though they are mostly correct.
I need to find their info again, at the very least the lesson they taught was fascination & follow much of what I learned about in my 20s.
Ok, the context matters. In terms of our birth certificates, the corporate U.S. A. Etc. OUR citizenship, the way they see it is as follows:
Citizen is defined as a legally recognized Subject.
A subject is defined as a person owing obedience to a state. To him thats a slave.
Subject Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/subject
It's a bit esoteric but I see his point.
Got it, so the birth certificates are what have made us all slaves (possibly under admiralty law) from what was explained to me) & so the use of the word does not negate the contract that was signed by our parents at birth.
I really am hoping this awakening brings back the rule of a constitutional republic & a simplicity in the law for all to follow easily & be able to fight corruption with.