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Joe Biden announced today that his administration will illegally turn VA hospitals into abortion centers, in a move that breaks federal law...The VA says babies will be killed in abortions “regardless of state restrictions”...VA hospitals will become abortion centers even in pro-life states. (www.lifenews.com)
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– batts 17 points 3 years ago +17 / -0

The baby will be 5 months old before she gets an appointment have you ever been to a va?

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– SpoonySmalls 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

They'll rush them in front of vets because they have to have that adrenochrome hit. We can just sit and wait our turn like we've been doing.

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– cosmicspiritwarrior 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

biden fired my wounderfull VA doctor, and I haven't been able to see another one since. A nurse from the pain clinic is working quadrupal shifts and handling everything the doctors used to. wait times had dropped to days under trump and are now back up to months.

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– batts 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

I experienced the same.

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– Tewdryg 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

This guy is insane and talks out of his ass. It is now unlawful and unconstitutional. Once again, Biden is acting way outside of the authority granted him. Since Roe v. Wade was ruled as a State issue, it means it is no longer lawful for the federal government to enforce abortion. This belongs to the States.

In other words, the federal government has no standing in this matter. Congress can't even pass a federal law for abortion because it would be unconstitutional. The ruling for Roe v. Wade belongs to the States, not the federal government.

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– MAG768720 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Not exactly correct.

Most people -- including most lawyers and judges -- do not understand state vs. federal jurisdiction.

There are actually 3 jurisdictions, and they do NOT "overlap:"

(1) States -- jurisdiction over all activities within the geographic boundries of the state, except for the enumerated federal powers listed in the Constitution.

(2) Federal subject matter -- jurisdiction of those subjects enumerated in the Constitution (bankruptcy, immigration, etc.) in Article I and any amendment, and this jurisdiction can extend to within state boundries.

(3) Federal exclusive jurisdiction -- jurisdiction within the federal territories (Washington DC, Puerto Rico, US Virgin Islands, Guam, American Samoa, the Northern Mariana Islands and a few small islands in the Pacific) ... AND ... what are referred to as "federal enclaves." The enclaves are the geographic territory within the states, such as military bases, that were either (a) given from the State to the feds via an act of the State's legislature, or (b) were withheld as federal territory when a territory became a State (which is why 90% of land in Nevada is federal).

Under federal exclusive jurisdiction, the territorial areas can pass any law, just like a State can, as long it does not violate the Constitution. This is why Washington, DC. has municipal laws.

The deception they use is to pretend that federal exclusive jurisdiction applies to all areas of a State, when it does not.

This is why the income tax is constitutional as written, but enforced in an unconstitutional manner in many cases.

This is why the CDC had no authority to legally pass any regulation for face masks or other nonsense, so they instead issued a "guideline," and then coerced State health employees via threat and money to go along with the "guideline," and those employees then coerced local hospital administrators in the same way, who then issued demands of doctors and nurses -- all the while, no attorney had any balls to challenge any of it, because they, too, are clueless. Law schools are indoctrination centers, just as much as medical schools are.

But when I researched the CDC "guideline," I found what I expected to find -- their citation for their "legal authority" came from a statute that did give the federal government authority related to bringing animals and foods into the country (foreign commerce), but nothing at all to do with face masks of the citizenry. They claimed an authority that did exist for "X" was somehow an authority to do "Z."

This is the con they have pulled for decades, in their attempt to subvert the constitutional limitations.

VA hospitals, if they are NOT sitting on federal jurisdictional territory (if on an Army base, they might be, but most likely anywhere else not the case), then the activities that go on inside that hospital are under STATE jurisdiction ONLY. The only federal issue would be how they apply federal regulations to carrying out their federal functions. Abortion is not under federal jurisdiction, other than in the federal territories and enclaves.

Congress COULD pass a pro-abortion law (or, for that matter, an anti-abortion law), but it would apply ONLY to the federal territories and enclaves, since it is not an enumerated power within the Constitution. This is basically what the Dobbs decision said: Not that it is a State power, but simply that there is no constitutional enumeration related to abortion, and therefore, Roe v. Wade -- which claimed a 14th Amendment constitutional right -- was an invalid decision, and will no longer be considered in any court room.

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– cosmicspiritwarrior 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

even if it is leased / rented the feds consider it federal property / land / jurisdiction.

doesn't mean it is right, but they do.

they are particularly fond of 99 year leases that they self renew.

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– MAG768720 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

even if it is leased / rented the feds consider it federal property / land / jurisdiction.

doesn't mean it is right, but they do.

Only when attorneys do not bring up this issue, which is most of the time.

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– Tewdryg 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

MAG, that's a well constructed explanation. And I am very familiar regarding federal territories and enclaves and federal jurisdiction. You said -- "....there is no constitutional enumeration related to abortion, and therefore, Roe v. Wade -- which claimed a 14th Amendment constitutional right -- was an invalid decision, and will no longer be considered in any court room."

This means whatever is not enumerated in the U.S. Constitution is left for the States to decide. This is all I meant.

Joe Biden does not have the authority to order abortion at VA hospitals regardless if it is on federal land or not. This is an abuse of authority. My understanding is this already violates a Congressional law for the VA.

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– MAG768720 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

This means whatever is not enumerated in the U.S. Constitution is left for the States to decide. This is all I meant.

Yes, but ... I was pointing out that "exclusive federal jurisidiction" is THE AVENUE they use to try to get around the Constitution.

They DO have exclusive jurisdiction (can make all laws) for federal territories and enclaves ONLY ... but they then pretend that it applies to the 50 States, as well.

That's my point: THIS is the method they use to usurp power.

Joe Biden does not have the authority to order abortion at VA hospitals regardless if it is on federal land or not.

Of course, Biden is a resident, not a president, but even if he were legit, executive orders apply ONLY to employees of the Executive Branch of the federal government and NOBODY ELSE. Could he issue a pro-abortion EO for the VA?

Congress makes the federal laws, not the resident/president. So, it would depend on what those statutes say. He couldn't just make up something that Congress had not approved. We agree on that.

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– Tewdryg 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

" ... but they then pretend that it applies to the 50 States, as well."

Very true. And the abuse of the Commerce Clause is a favorite tool. I think it was Clarence Thomas who rightfully said it needs to be reigned in.

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– MAG768720 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Do you know the link between Commerce Clause and CJ John Roberts?

Karl Rove was on the "committee" to interview potential SC appointees during Bush, Jr.'s administration. Rove wrote in his book about the interview of Roberts.

He asked Roberts who his favorite SC justice of all time was. Roberts said it was Robert Jackson.

Jackson is the one who wrote the opinion back in the 1930's that decided that a farmer's crop production came under the Commerce Clause, and therefore subject to federal regulation, because even though the farmer never sold any product across state lines, he COULD HAVE done so. A pure "what if" scenario was the entire basis of claiming that an in-State activity somehow was subject to federal regulation.

That was the camel's nose under the corrupt tent.

And he was Roberts' favorte justice.

It was no suprise (to me), then, when Roberts would later say that a tax on NOT buying a product (health insurance) was constitutional just because it was a tax -- and for no other reason.

These people ARE stupid. Roberts, in particular, is an absolute moron, which is probably why they wanted him in the Chief Justice position (overseeing of the corrupt FISA court).

Their puppet masters have hundreds, if not thousands, of useful idiots who are working full-time in think tanks to come up with all sorts of bizarro world concepts that the puppet masters can use to harm the individual. It is for this reason ONLY that the puppet masters consider themselves "elite." They themselves do nothing, but employ useful idiots to push their agenda.

But the puppets themselves -- the Roberts, Bushes, Clintonistas, Odumbas, and the rest -- are STUPID people, as well as useful idiots.

They couldn't argue their way out of a paper bag on any substantive issue, and it is only the dumbing down of the masses that has allowed them to get away with their crimes.

Commerce Clause is a great example of how they bastardize the basic language and concepts of the Constitution (and Declaration of Independence) to engage in their criminal activity.

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– Tewdryg 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

And to me it the biggest issue of federal overreach. Much of the attack against the 2nd Amendment is under the abuse and overreach of the Commerce Clause. It seems things like this are copied in other countries. This is an indication it is a international cabal orchestrated scheme. Canada is a good example of this. I recall the story of Rick Simpson, who had a cure for cancer using cannabis oil. He cured his own cancer and started to cure his friends cancer. He never took a single payment; not a red cent from anyone. All they had to do was ask and he'd give them a bottle of the cannibis oil that made from cannabis that grew on his Nova Scotia property. We use to call this ditch weed because that's where you'd find it.

Anyway, word got out and the Canadian medical industry came after him. They harassed him terribly and since it was a home remedy, there wasn't a Canadian medical law that they could use against Rick Simpson. So, they charged him with trafficking a product without a license. This sounded ridiculous because he wasn't selling it or was it ever 'sold' across provincial borders. This didn't stop the corrupt courts though. They ruled even products never sold fell under commerce activity. He was found guilty for 'selling' a product without a license, despite never selling any of it.

The power to misinterpret the original intent of the law is the power to abuse authority. This is what the Commerce Clause is.

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– MAG768720 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I'm going to ask something of you. It's a bit of a big ask, in that it is time consuming, so if you don't have time or don't want to, I understand.

But since you have an interest in law, and the corruption involved, I would be interested in your take on what Robert Fox had to say about his experiences.

There are 6 videos, each around 2 hours long, and it can be frustrating a bit because he gets sidetracked a lot, but there are tons of hidden gems in what he had to say.

I think this information could be a valuable tool towards getting things back on track. Interested in your take:

Part 1 of 6 --

https://www.bitchute.com/video/q6PMqMMSasLW/

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... continue reading thread?
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– ArmyLady 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

The VA exists to treat VETERANS! VA CANNOT treat other citizens willy nilly. Heck they cannot even treat veterans, w/o a stack of documentation and bureaucratic review to show that they are ELIGIBLE veterans! PROVED service, PROVED disability rating.

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– WillowMinxy 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

So the military doctors are going to kill babies? Can you get any lower than this?

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– MAG768720 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

VA hospitals are under state jurisdiction, not federal.

The employees are funded by the feds, but the actions within are controlled by the states.

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– TSearch 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

That has to be a Hyde Amendment violation.

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– onetimeuser 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Wasn't there a guy on here yesterday relaying the rumour that this was going to be announced

Bravo for the heads up

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– NataliePortmanteau 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

...or you could just encourage people to use birth control. How about you give everyone 1000-count supply of condoms and birth control pills? There, now we don't need mass blind genocide of the unborn anymore.

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– ApeGang 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

"You have to vote for me to find out."

-Joe Biden- 2020

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– Oblakhan 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Biden making his absolute best effort to wake up the last of the sheeple. If he would read the drops he'd know there are 4% to 6% that will never wake up. kek

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– SpoonySmalls 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Um....isnt now illegal federally and up to the individual states? Actual question.

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– TinkAnon 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

😆 Shirley you jest!

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– deleted 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0
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– Junionthepipeline 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Apparently not the marines

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– deleted 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

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