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i'm learning that a lot of people here would be released because they just will not stop regurgitating COINTEPRO bullshit 9/11 missiles and CGI planes garbage.
But there’s 2 good questions no one is willing to give an answer on about 9-11 otherwise.
Where’s the black boxes / plane parts?
How did they know immediately who did it / how did they happen to find the passport near the plane’s crash site? What luck.
Edit: Bonus questions:
Trajectories for a skilled pilot would be 1/1,000,000 chances in hitting it based on g-forces and the planes limited capabilities (this isn’t a fighter jet here), how did a mediocre at best pilot manage to do it?
Let’s say the planes were real, and the plane really hits the building, defying logics and the laws of physics. Even then, the building would not collapse because of it. The sheer force felt by high winds would’ve toppled those buildings, not to mention, it would not implode on itself, it would likely have gone to one direction or the other. Additionally footage of first responders running out yelling that there’s bombs going off inside. So, what is it, did the planes take down the building, or was it bombs, or was it both?
Oooops. You did it now. The resident 911 structural engineer expert rabbi is going to school you.
Just do a ((google)) search. LOL ((They)) did find the black boxes and the hijackers passport LMAO
Those planes vaporised, especially the Pentagon and Pennsylvania ones, just like that, like magic, like they were never there!
Are you suggesting titanium doesn't sublimate at temperatures low enough that identification papers can survive?
Trust the science bigot.!
there is pictures of plane wreckage at all 4 sites, a simple google image search gives you tens of thousands of results...
but hey why let facts and logic and reality get in the way of fairytale make believe happy funtime hour
Uhhhhh.... What? Lol
There's absolutely zero wreckage seen or recovered. The planes were CGI.
Facts, logic, reality. 757 vs Pentagon. Plane wreckage you say? Google you say?
they did find the boxes and plenty of parts, just do a google search for plenty of articles
they had the passenger manifests and the names of the hijackers were already on the radar for having gone to the flight school. one look at the manifest and it was pretty easy to spot.
also, did you not know that a whole bunch of shit from the planes came flying out the other side? alone with plane parts? there was all sorts of shit lying in the streets before the towers fell and one of those pieces of shit was a passport from one of the hijackers.
it's not "impossible to fly a plane like that" they did it, you can see it. the hijackers went to the florida flight school so they could learn how to fly the damn planes. lol. just because you claim it was some miracle on in a million chance doesn't make it so... it's not hard to fly into shit if you know what the controls do.
also your understanding of how buildings work is hilarious. they aren't trees, they don't fall over sideways unless you spend months planting charges to get them to fall that way. gravity wants to bring the building straight down, sideways falling buildings are done when they need it to fall away from other structures and it's actually rather difficult to pull off.
when you damage a building like that by slamming a fully loaded plane into it at 600mph, then set everything on fire... the fire cooks the metal and weakens the damaged area till it can no longer hold the building above.
the more weight the damaged area has to hold, the more susceptible it is to damage and fire induced collapse... which is exactly why the second tower to be hit fell first... because the damage was worse and it was lower on the tower.
You're gonna be pissed in like 5 years when you finally realize the whole thing was rigged to blow and collapse and the planes were faked. No ordinary collapse. Half a million tons of steel vaporized in 10 seconds. The buildings disappeared.
LOL holy shit you really have just deepthroated all the intentional misdirection haven't you.
it collapsed EXACTLY as it should have, EXACTLY as every building i've ever helped drop did, and EXACTLY like everything we know about physics says it would.
watch the collapse: https://youtu.be/EEogeIIOJzU?t=214
notice how the radio tower on top starts to lean then the entire thing drops... yeah thats because the upper portion was hinging on the damaged area until it caused a cascade failure, and all the upper floors were able to drop straight down.
do you have any concept of how much the top of that building weighed?
just... do yourself the solid and look up how much the buildings weighed and do the math and start putting those big numbers into perspective. like i understand that people like you don't encounter weight numbers like that very often... but you just don't have any concept of the stresses and forces at play here when you are talking about that much weight...
gravity is always trying to pull that weight straight down... as soon as it can it does.
at the end of the day you're either lying on purpose, or you are regurgitating a lie someone told you... so either way please do better.
Sounds like we've got an expert flight simulator expert here. Pilots who spoke up about the impossibilities of the maneuvers along with trajectories and speed (who were immediately shunned as conspiracy theorists) hold more weight than repeating MSM talking points buddy. Going to flight school doesn't make you an expert.
How did the plane partially stick out of the building in the Fox News footage in perfect condition, screen blacks out, then comes back and the plane is poof! gone?
There are very compelling arguments for the 9/11 did not happen side. Am I saying that the people on the alleged building-crashed planes did not indeed crash and kill all occupants? No. Am I saying they didn't convince Jihadists to do it? No.
I think Jihadists took over 3 planes and crashed them, killing all the passengers. I don't think they crashed them into the pentagon (budget deficit audit) and the twin towers, one of the most memorable portions of the NY skyline, causing unified American rage, that the cabal could easily capitalize on.
Every building collapse I've seen has not been straight down, unless it's a demolition team with engineers who plot out how to do it. Buildings do not naturally cave in. I'm not suggesting it would just tip over from the force. It would cave in on one section (if indeed jet fuel could melt these steel beams) and it would half collapse, half tip over. Just like every other collapsed building. Earthquakes don't take down buildings vertically, nor do collapsed building from bad building practices. There is no sky scraper in the world (besides the alleged twin towers) (that I have been able to find) that was hit by a plane outside of this, so there's no apples to apples comparison, so sheep just go along with it. Then you pay some engineers to fabricate a story, people who I'm sure didn't know the true blueprints, but could rough idea guess it, so most of all of the normies would buy it.
so one pilot says it's impossible per the 10,000 who say they could do it and you just want to believe the one...
it's just like that stupid thing you guys always parrot about the "over a thousand engineers said it's impossible" first off no they didn't thats a misleading stat and second of all i can find you three times that many "degree holders" who i wouldn't trust with a potato gun let alone trust to tell me whether or not a building can collapse like we all saw.
show me this "plane sticking out of the building then poof gone".
bet you can't.
look... i actually HAVE demoed buildings... i worked for a major company who does very large drops and no i will not say who or when (and you should know why).
i can tell you from personal experience that most buildings that big that are built that way... unless you engineer the drop perfectly... will fall straight down.
think about it, how much do you think these buildings weigh? (hint it's millions of tons). all that weight is constantly being pulled downward by gravity, it's trying to go straight down all the time 24/7 365. when you slam a plane into the middle of something at 600mph and damage the fuck out of it... then set whats left on fire... eventually the damaged area can't hold the weight of the floors above and the entire system blows apart.
you ever see a steel cable snap under tension? if you work around that OSHA nightmare for a living they constantly remind you "if that cable snaps it can cut you in half"... and they aren't joking.
that example (steel cable) a FRACTION of the forces at play in a massive skyscraper. a few thousand pounds will cut a car in half, imagine what a few million tons will do.
if you want to bend metal there's three ways to do it. force, heat, or some combination of the two. the more heat you give it, the less force you need, the more force you have, the less heat you need.
from the moment of impact the remaining metal supports in the damaged areas are now being asked to carry the load of the top of the building. aka there is now less shit to hold up shit. when you then heat those remaining metal supports in a fire for almost an hour, they lose structural integrity and each time a support element failed it placed more strain on the remaining supports.
the weight of the undamaged floors above doesn't change, that downward force/load never changes, but the ability to support that load is steadily decreasing the longer the fires burn and the more support elements fail and are removed from the system.
if allowed to continue, eventually the damaged area can no longer support the floors above and a cascade failure happens... this is a total failure and the damaged area essentially destroys itself under all of that weight.
you gotta remember you have each floor constructed with pretensioned steel cables embedded in the concrete floors to allow them to build the towers the way they did (at the time it was called a "radical" design for doing the open floor plan style instead of the traditional box girder style construction).
when those flors break from sagging, they explode. one of the most dangerous things to do in demolition is using the jackhammer on the end of a piece of machinery to chisel the concrete apart from the cables. you have to place metal wire nets over everything and big heavy tarps to catch the concrete when the cables are able to release... because they will very often take a bunch of concrete with them and huck a 300 pound chunk of jagged crete into your face at 100 mph
when that collapse starts and the floors start blowing themselves apart there is nothing that is going to stop the top half of the building from crashing down into the lower half of the building. you simply cannot expect the bottom half of the building to "catch" the top half
did you expect it to slowly and gently lower itself down onto the bottom portion of the tower like a fat man carefulling down into a questionable piece of furniture?
no, of course not... its fucking SLAMS into the shit because it's millions of tons of steel and concrete freefalling through the failed damaged area. once it starts moving the only thing stopping that much mass from falling downward is going to be the fucking planet.
i've been on a lot of demos, mostly bridges but i worked 4 buildings... 2 of them were very big. it took us MONTHS of prep work to rig them, and this is after the building was gutted down to the supporting structure and with a crew of 50 people. day after day of making weakening cuts into the metal, drilling holes into concrete to place charges, running miles and miles of det cord and blasting wire.
it's a massive operation to bring a building that big down.
so here's the question of the day...
if that building was rigged to blow, do you honestly think they would risk slamming planes into the towers and setting off all the explosives on impact? wouldn't that be a little odd as soon as the plane first hits you get this zipper flash of detcord racing through the building and the entire thing comes crashing down?
do you think they would risk that? don't you think that would be kinda obvious?
would they risk severing the miles and miles of thin insulated copper blasting wire needed to initiate all those charges by slamming planes into the buildings?
probably not huh?
and aside from all that... don't you think it would have been easier just to shoot the parking lot attendants and drive a bigger bomb into the buildings and try again?
would have been far easier, you can still just say terrorists did it couldn't you?
and how exactly do you silence the hundreds of people it would have taken to pull this off? did they kill them all or are they all just so dedicated to the fake terrorist attack that they keep their mouths shut?
whenever you scratch just below the surface on 9/10th of the "theories" surrounding 9/11 they fucking crumble under the slightest bit of scrutiny.
guess what doesn't though... that massive debris field for the 4th plane. the debris field so large that there is no possible way it wasn't blown out of the sky.
but you never hear anyone talk about that do you... hasn't that ever bothered you?
doesn't that seem even a little bit strange?
you're here arguing this easily provably false nonsense when the real shit is just chillin over here in the corner hoping you don't notice.
and you are all falling for it.
research COINTELPRO.