With a global agenda unfolding right before our eyes, how can one be a believer in God's word and think the world is going to be saved from itself?
Something this massive and far reaching, you'd think our Creator would have told us or shown us.
But rather He has told us what will come and it's judgement and wrath, not revival.
So I ask you Christian, how can you put so much hope in man to save you and revive your country and the world for that matter, and believe God is going to save this evil and wicked world?
Many believe this is the end or at least the beginning of the end. Yet so many have their faith intertwined with their politics and their leader(s).
My Bible tells me to separate, sanctify, watch, and repent, among other things. It doesn't tell me to be a disciple for man and show everyone how our country and values are coming back and in greater reverence than the times of old.
As much as our flesh wants to hold onto this world. We must as believers be ready to let go of our flesh.
So it's one or the other. Either God almighty forgot to mention this great revival so many are caught up in at the moment. Or this is the final test for us all. Do we heed His warning and separate from the deception or delusion as it's mentioned? Or do we hold onto our flesh and deny what our eyes, spirit and His Word is telling us?
Because this isn't the first time these exact same signs have been shown in history? WW I and WW II are a pretty good example of this. They tick off every box for the end times just about.
WWI in particular was about as close to the actual end times as we've ever been. Pestilence (spanish flu)-check, War and rumors of war-obvious check, Poverty and destitution (great depression)-check, societal breakdowns (first wave feminism and civil rights movements)-check. Etc. etc. By the logic you're using this should have been the end times, and the third and fourth great awakening's should have never happened.
There have been four "great awakenings" in the history of the United States, and every time, God brings our nation back to him and cements our status as a special nation for his gentile children adopted by the blood of Jesus. God never allows us to go to far away from him. There's historical precedent for this, and this time is no different from God's view.
Besides, a lot of people overlook several of the key points about the end times that you can't really fake. For one, the temple has to be rebuilt so that the abomination of desolation can take place. And yes it has to be a physical place, because the antichrist is going to make a mockery of ancient Israel's religious ceremonies in the temple by replacing God with himself.
Second of all Wormwood has to hit the eart and cause a third of all waterways to "turn bitter" or dry up as most modern interpretations put it. Kind of had to fake a meteor hitting the earth and drying up a third of all water on the planet, Which hasn't happened yet, ergo, there's still the possibility that we're not in the "end" end times (since technically it's been the end times since Jesus died).
And finally, and this is the one I'm baffled most on HERE of all places don't recognize. The war of Gog and Magog requires Israel to exist. ACTUAL ISRAEL, as in actual real Jews, brought back to their ancestral lands organically by the Lord. Not a bunch of fake Khazarian JINOs.
Without the existence of a Biblical Israel, pretty much every other "sign" falls apart since none of the end time's occurrences can happen. Gog and Magog, the raising of the Witnesses, abomination of desolation, etc. etc.
There's also the fact that people often forget how the Bible describes the Tribulations. The first 3.5 years are supposed to basically be heaven on earth. This is how the antichrist gains the trust and faith of the lost on earth. Whether you believe in a pre-tribulation, mid-tribulation, or post-tribulation rapture, this is one fact that most agree on. The first half is basically heaven on earth, but it's all only surface level. So have the last 3.5 years been haven on earth? Not hardly. Even under Trump (which was 4 years total mind you), it wasn't heaven on earth. People still suffered all over the world in various ways.
So combine all of this, and the end isn't as close as it seems.
Sounds like someone needs to read their Bible again, since you've missed so many obvious requirements that have not, and cannot be met yet for the end times to truly occur.
You're conflating too many things here that don't match up. The end times will come when God wants it to happen. And literally no one else (not even Jesus) knows when that is. In the meantime, it's more tha possible (extremely likely and pretty much certain actually), that God will have at least a few more "mass revival" events to bring his lost sheep and children back to him in massive numbers before the end finally does come.
well said. I have been asking this question: Why do people read the bible and either see the end as far in the future or unfolding before our eyes? On one hand it seems many signs are too massive and strange to happen any time soon. On another hand the Fourth Beast is clearly establishing its world dominance.
I think this is because most people are overlooking the wilderness period that is coming. Look at Hosea 2: The woman goes into the wilderness and is comforted by God for a time (3.5 years?) and during this time there is a purification that must occur. This is a reflection of the wilderness time of the Exodus.
That Fourth Beast is trampling people already. I'd say the Pale horse is already riding. Jesus talks about the tribulation time as a time like never before or ever will be again. Yet he also likens it to the "days of Noah" when people are living oblivious about the coming judgement.
Much of the world scale events described in Rev happen in a delusional clown world that is fully depending on the Beast - except for those who reject the Beast and flee into the wilderness.
We are in a time like never before. Think Tower of Babel. The language barrier is gone. All the past signs of the end times were valid (in the prophetic timeline of thousand year days) but the moment we are entering into is unlike any before.
Good summation of scripture and world events.
I think there was a flood once. That was pretty serious.
Wheat and chaff came to mind.
I would just like to say that I concur with what you are saying. One of the most brilliant Bible scholars I know also concurs. I believe Daniel needs to be read and understood alongside Revelation because it does give a timeline. We can argue all day about eschatological issues, but everyone agrees that God's timing is His own and there will be signs, but how we read those signs will determine what we believe.
The most important things for Christians are what you stated...separate, sanctify, watch, and repent and as a Christian these are the things we need to focus on. Everyone certainly has a right to express their own opinion on interpretation of the scripture, but division is a tool of satan.
The idea that we can use scripture to interpret other scripture is a common theme throughout Hermeneutics. From the perspective of Sola Scriptura, it is, by itself, a hermeneutic principle. Ultimately, it is simply the idea that we can use scripture to shed light on other passages within the Bible. So, we just need to be diligent and prayful, because Jesus will come like a thief in the night and the biggest issue for the Christian is not when he comes so much as will we be ready. God bless you; I enjoy your thoughts.
Ten righteous people would have been enough to save Soddom & Gomorrah. How many good and faithful here in the US?
Christ is to reign on earth for 1000 years before the destruction and recreation of the heavens and earth after his battle with the evil one.
Relevant
Many of the early Puritans and pilgrims arrived in America with a fervent faith and vision for establishing a godly nation. Within a century the ardor had cooled. The children of the original immigrants were more concerned with increasing wealth and comfortable living than furthering the Kingdom of God. The same spiritual malaise could be found throughout the American colonies. The philosophical rationalism of the Enlightenment was spreading its influence among the educated classes; others were preoccupied with the things of this world.
https://www.christianity.com/church/church-history/timeline/1701-1800/the-great-awakening-11630212.html
And here you can read about all 4
https://brewminate.com/the-four-great-awakenings-in-american-christian-history/
I do not believe that any man will save me other than Jesus the Christ, and he already has. I still believe the nation I live in, the USA, is a blessed place to be. What men have done to the politics cannot sway my belief in that. Christ has died, Christ has risen, and Christ will come again. All I have to do is follow his lead to the best of my ability with a sincere heart. He comes to all who call out to him, but its not a phone call, he sees our Faith, as he did with Mary Magdalen, and maybe we have to be tested, depending on the degree to which we are infected with Demons. I am at this site because I know that the Great Awakening has to do with Christ Consciousness, not politics. My life is simple, taught to me by my Father, read the Bible, stay busy to avoid depression and anger, and, no matter who is power I still have to get up everyday and go to work. God does not want me to be a hero, he just asks me to follow him, speak and live The Gospel, and praise him.
God says plenty about what is going on in the world. For one it says Satan is the God of this world and that he hath blinded the eyes of many.
There is nothing new under the sun, if Christ doesn't come back soon God's promises are still ye and amen, and I do believe we are allowed a quiet and peaceable life in all Godliness and honesty if we do the simple act of praying for those in authority. Says nothing about their responses to our prayers. Either Christ returns or we continue to live the abundance of God's Word on a planet still awaiting deliverance. Same as its always been.
Stay faithful to the truth amd live through this more than abundantly, or get confused by every wind of doctrine and ...well be confused. God isn't the author of confusion. So...
It's interesting, your point, that it is one or the other, not both. I might have to disagree. This is a logical trap we tend to set for ourselves. It's even called the "either or" fallacy.
The Word of God did not leave out this major event that is unfolding. But here's a sobering thought: how much of the Word of God has been censored?
The religious leadership has always been in the censorship game. They've added to and taken away. We each have a responsibility to test every doctrine. And we should not put our faith and trust in so-called scholars or political councils about what is or isn't valid "bible". The Bible is a library. The original Bible was a huge collection of scrolls.
We simply are not familiar with all of the prophecy. Look at the book of Jude. He calls Enoch a "Prophet of God, seventh from Adam" - yet we don't bother to read and understand his prophecy.
The information war began in the Garden.
Matt. 24: 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.
Rev.7:9After this I looked and saw a multitude too large to count, from every nation and tribe and people and tongue, standing before the throne and before the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and holding palm branches in their hands. 10And they cried out in a loud voice: “ Salvation to our God, who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!” 11And all the angels stood around the throne and around the elders and the four living creatures. And they fell facedown before the throne and worshiped God,…13Then one of the elders addressed me: “These in white robes,” he asked, “who are they, and where have they come from?” 14“Sir,” I answered, “you know.” So he replied, “These are the ones who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
You think that the evil that is being revealed right now are “signs” that we are in the end times or at least the beginning of the end. I tell you, humanity has always had evil present and there have been periods of time when much more evil was out in the open than today. The Roman Empire was one such time. We don’t see public executions by crucifixion, or people being fed to lion like it was occurring then.
“ But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only.”
Matthew 24:36 NKJV
There’s nothing new under the sun.
I dont submit to the idea, that over thousands of years all of a sudden now is when God decides to let his plan move forward (Revelation). This is simply a way, imo, for Him to do at least two things.....pain is a motivator, move reluctant people with pain.....light up the problems to expose them. There are many more things he could be doing..... but letting Goliath win, doesn't seem to be one of them.
Gloom and doom got ya, mate? Take a hot shower