This is clearly the deep state going after the last bastion of uncompromised military.
This is no different than the targeting of Flynn.
The FBI knows that the PEADs and operations against the cabal are being carried out by members of SOCOM. This is a counter attack.
The drug thing is preposterous. No one is exempt in the entire military from random drug tests. They occur on every level. There is a big military lotto system. If your number pops that day you pee. It’s random and unpredictable and it comes from outside the control of individual commands.
There is also small military testing, in which a commanding officer at any time can order a command sweep. Usually happens at that level once or twice a year.
The military doesn’t fuck around with drugs. I have had command wide pee tests while deployed on a submarine. A fucking hatch hasn’t opened for 3 months, and we all had to pee. They bring drug dogs down on the submarine for a sweep right before you leave.
The question is why is the FBI doing this, and not JAG/NCIS/Army MP Detectives? This is an attack aimed at special forces coming from outside the military, from the fucking FBI.
Just the fact that this is an FBI operation should tell you all you need to know.
I’m not saying all of them are gonna pass pee tests. People smoke weed and do dumb shit thinking they won’t get caught. Happens to every command in the military. Frequently. But it’s never handled by the FBI. That’s why there is such a rigorous random testing process, and why JAG and other internal investigation agencies exist.
Spot on Boozy. I have little doubt this is an op directed at Patriots not by Patriots.
That article smells right from the get go. And bringing in the possibility of trafficking is deflection and projection on an epic scale. They can use this to plant evidence on soldiers laptops because the rumors and evidence of coordinated pedo rings and Pizzagate level depravity is firmly on the publics radar, so believable.
A little background on pee tests from the public sector. I deal with truck drivers all day who must pass random pee tests to maintain their cdl's. We become quite familiar with these drivers because we see them every day on the job delivering our concrete and grading materials. Not one of them that I have ever encountered would violate their drug mandates and jeopardize their jobs. And this is the class of workers that would be most likely to engage in recreational cannabis use. SoF are not in that same category of people.
Absolutely!!
OMG, I just got anxiety when I read > A fucking hatch hasn’t opened for 3 months
What is that like? I have horrible claustrophobia and I'd probably go nuts and run screaming through the submarine with my hair on fire looking for a way out.
You get used to it. It’s an 18 hour day that starts the second you leave. The outside world clock no longer applies. You do 6 hours of watch, off 12, rinse and repeat for a few months. In that 12 off, usually you have drills and maintenance and shit. So typically you get 5-6 hours of sleep. Then back on watch.
Once you do this for a month, you are so exhausted and in such a routine that time just kind of becomes a blur of watch, eating, drills, sleep. It becomes robotic. You forget where you are. The boat usually doesn’t move much like a ship does. It’s like working in a tiny smelly factory.
Being closed in didnt bother me. It was the calendar. Most people will never know what it’s like to have a few months ahead of them with no off days. No breaks. No weekend. It’s just watch after watch after watch. Sometime when you do the math you have 400 watches left. It’s a mental struggle.
You can go weeks without contemplating the real danger of what you are doing, that you are stuck in a tube 500 feet below the surface and every second the sea is trying to get in to kill you. Too tired to think about it.
It’s like volunteering to go to prison with no yard time or phone calls. Humans are adaptable creatures.
Damnit man! I’m gonna have nightmares now of being in a tube under water! Much respect and thanks for your service! I’m actually sitting here reading letters my father in law sent my mother in law during WWII and he describes the calendar the same way!!
You're right. The Criminal Investigation Division (CID) would be handling this. The monthly urinalysis we used to have was random, with our SSNs generated randomly by computer. But, if the command felt that there were Soldiers using drugs, they could be directed at any time to conduct a urinalysis test.
No, we were underwater for 3 months straight without any shore visits. No one left the boat, no hatches opened. And yet on month 3 the CO still did a command wide sweep.
This was on top of the random tests that still occurred. We would go shallow to receive data several times a day. Part of this data was big navy lottery numbers for random drug testing. They would store all the piss and ship it off to be tested as soon as we would pull up somewhere for resupply or whatever.
They just don’t play with drug testing. When your number comes up you pee. Everyone. Captain. Commodore. Doesn’t matter. Anyone getting a check has a number that can be called.
3 months is a long time without resupply. Usually we would try to avoid that unless absolutely necessary. It’s more common to do a month or month and a half and pull in somewhere to pick up or drop off people and get food and parts.
There are constantly people coming on the boat or going off. We have inspections every time, and you also have squadron come on for a week before the inspection to do work ups. Then you have people who lose family members, or get super sick. Stuff happens.
Really the food and the parts are the big things. At 90 days you run out of everything. You are eating beans and chicken nuggets every meal. Yea you can stay out there. But it’s miserable. Much better to pull in somewhere for 2 days and get eggs and veggies and ice cream and shit.
That sounds exactly like what I would see in the Army. I was in a unit in 2018 that conducted 3 piss tests in one month. Three. Probably because after the second test I told the CG we were safe to hit the pipe now (I was joking of course … homeboy had zero sense of humor apparently).
This is clearly the deep state going after the last bastion of uncompromised military.
This is no different than the targeting of Flynn.
The FBI knows that the PEADs and operations against the cabal are being carried out by members of SOCOM. This is a counter attack.
The drug thing is preposterous. No one is exempt in the entire military from random drug tests. They occur on every level. There is a big military lotto system. If your number pops that day you pee. It’s random and unpredictable and it comes from outside the control of individual commands.
There is also small military testing, in which a commanding officer at any time can order a command sweep. Usually happens at that level once or twice a year.
The military doesn’t fuck around with drugs. I have had command wide pee tests while deployed on a submarine. A fucking hatch hasn’t opened for 3 months, and we all had to pee. They bring drug dogs down on the submarine for a sweep right before you leave.
The question is why is the FBI doing this, and not JAG/NCIS/Army MP Detectives? This is an attack aimed at special forces coming from outside the military, from the fucking FBI.
Just the fact that this is an FBI operation should tell you all you need to know.
I’m not saying all of them are gonna pass pee tests. People smoke weed and do dumb shit thinking they won’t get caught. Happens to every command in the military. Frequently. But it’s never handled by the FBI. That’s why there is such a rigorous random testing process, and why JAG and other internal investigation agencies exist.
💯% agree.
This reeks of the FBI going after special forces, because special forces has been going after the deep state.
As for the dude saying this is happening out of bordem... I am sure complex military operations involving special forces are really boring.
~ Secretary of Defense, Christopher Miller
Spot on Boozy. I have little doubt this is an op directed at Patriots not by Patriots.
That article smells right from the get go. And bringing in the possibility of trafficking is deflection and projection on an epic scale. They can use this to plant evidence on soldiers laptops because the rumors and evidence of coordinated pedo rings and Pizzagate level depravity is firmly on the publics radar, so believable.
A little background on pee tests from the public sector. I deal with truck drivers all day who must pass random pee tests to maintain their cdl's. We become quite familiar with these drivers because we see them every day on the job delivering our concrete and grading materials. Not one of them that I have ever encountered would violate their drug mandates and jeopardize their jobs. And this is the class of workers that would be most likely to engage in recreational cannabis use. SoF are not in that same category of people.
Absolutely!! OMG, I just got anxiety when I read > A fucking hatch hasn’t opened for 3 months What is that like? I have horrible claustrophobia and I'd probably go nuts and run screaming through the submarine with my hair on fire looking for a way out.
You get used to it. It’s an 18 hour day that starts the second you leave. The outside world clock no longer applies. You do 6 hours of watch, off 12, rinse and repeat for a few months. In that 12 off, usually you have drills and maintenance and shit. So typically you get 5-6 hours of sleep. Then back on watch.
Once you do this for a month, you are so exhausted and in such a routine that time just kind of becomes a blur of watch, eating, drills, sleep. It becomes robotic. You forget where you are. The boat usually doesn’t move much like a ship does. It’s like working in a tiny smelly factory.
Being closed in didnt bother me. It was the calendar. Most people will never know what it’s like to have a few months ahead of them with no off days. No breaks. No weekend. It’s just watch after watch after watch. Sometime when you do the math you have 400 watches left. It’s a mental struggle.
You can go weeks without contemplating the real danger of what you are doing, that you are stuck in a tube 500 feet below the surface and every second the sea is trying to get in to kill you. Too tired to think about it.
It’s like volunteering to go to prison with no yard time or phone calls. Humans are adaptable creatures.
Damnit man! I’m gonna have nightmares now of being in a tube under water! Much respect and thanks for your service! I’m actually sitting here reading letters my father in law sent my mother in law during WWII and he describes the calendar the same way!!
You're right. The Criminal Investigation Division (CID) would be handling this. The monthly urinalysis we used to have was random, with our SSNs generated randomly by computer. But, if the command felt that there were Soldiers using drugs, they could be directed at any time to conduct a urinalysis test.
A whole sub had to be piss tested because a hatch didn't open?
No, we were underwater for 3 months straight without any shore visits. No one left the boat, no hatches opened. And yet on month 3 the CO still did a command wide sweep.
This was on top of the random tests that still occurred. We would go shallow to receive data several times a day. Part of this data was big navy lottery numbers for random drug testing. They would store all the piss and ship it off to be tested as soon as we would pull up somewhere for resupply or whatever.
They just don’t play with drug testing. When your number comes up you pee. Everyone. Captain. Commodore. Doesn’t matter. Anyone getting a check has a number that can be called.
So you guys typically don't spend 3 months straight underwater? I figured you go on like a 6 month patrol then go back to home port.
3 months is a long time without resupply. Usually we would try to avoid that unless absolutely necessary. It’s more common to do a month or month and a half and pull in somewhere to pick up or drop off people and get food and parts.
There are constantly people coming on the boat or going off. We have inspections every time, and you also have squadron come on for a week before the inspection to do work ups. Then you have people who lose family members, or get super sick. Stuff happens.
Really the food and the parts are the big things. At 90 days you run out of everything. You are eating beans and chicken nuggets every meal. Yea you can stay out there. But it’s miserable. Much better to pull in somewhere for 2 days and get eggs and veggies and ice cream and shit.
That sounds exactly like what I would see in the Army. I was in a unit in 2018 that conducted 3 piss tests in one month. Three. Probably because after the second test I told the CG we were safe to hit the pipe now (I was joking of course … homeboy had zero sense of humor apparently).