I have a liberal friend in NJ. She was complaining that she's been to 4 funerals in 4 months. She's also heard many other stories of relatives of less closer friends who have died suddenly. I asked: "were they all vaccinated?" Her response: "oh, don't be ridiculous. The vaccine has nothing to do with this." Cognitive dissonance is very strong, sadly.
"Ok, lets pretend (just for a second) that I'm right that the vaxx is hurting people. Would it be important (to a moral person) to know about this? And if it is important, doesn't it make sense to spend just a little time finding out if I'm right?"
If they answer 'No' to the first question, they are admitting they are not moral.
If they answer 'No' to the second question, they are admitting to deadly laziness.
Personally, I don't see it as a morality issue, as it is an identity issue. My friend identifies so strongly with the Democrat party, that she doesn't question their policies. Even though she doesn't care for specific movements within the D party (trans, grooming) and is a small business owner herself, she is absolutely convinced that life would be 1000 times worse under a Republican. For generations, her family has always voted D. She's generous to strangers, doesn't virtue signal. She'll spend Thanksgiving feeding the homeless, and not brag about it. And part of her makeup is that Government has her best interests at heart, particularly a D government. Government tells her to get vaccinated. Therefore, she'll obey. Its sad that the D party my friend believes in, doesn't exist. Yet she cannot see that. Hers is an idealized version of the D party where everyone loves their fellow man & lives in peace and harmony, and government is always honest. Her identity is so wrapped in this idealized version of the D party, that nothing can break this bond.
Personally, I don't see it as a morality issue, as it is an identity issue.
I understand what you are trying to say here, but it is a morality issue. If it is true (that the vaxx harms people), then someone is immoral to support it (even if they 'identify' with a party).
So, yes, your friend may 'identify' a certain way, but the issue of morality is larger than the issue of identification.
One of many things I'll never understand is the generational R/D voter, specifically democrat. They're the "my grandfather and father voted democrat, so I will too." They don't have an original thought in their head.
Must be nice to live in Texas. Here in NJ they are still lining up for them, their kids too. Flu shots and boosters in one visit. Sick.
I have a liberal friend in NJ. She was complaining that she's been to 4 funerals in 4 months. She's also heard many other stories of relatives of less closer friends who have died suddenly. I asked: "were they all vaccinated?" Her response: "oh, don't be ridiculous. The vaccine has nothing to do with this." Cognitive dissonance is very strong, sadly.
Follow up with -
"Ok, lets pretend (just for a second) that I'm right that the vaxx is hurting people. Would it be important (to a moral person) to know about this? And if it is important, doesn't it make sense to spend just a little time finding out if I'm right?"
If they answer 'No' to the first question, they are admitting they are not moral. If they answer 'No' to the second question, they are admitting to deadly laziness.
In my opinion, of course.
Personally, I don't see it as a morality issue, as it is an identity issue. My friend identifies so strongly with the Democrat party, that she doesn't question their policies. Even though she doesn't care for specific movements within the D party (trans, grooming) and is a small business owner herself, she is absolutely convinced that life would be 1000 times worse under a Republican. For generations, her family has always voted D. She's generous to strangers, doesn't virtue signal. She'll spend Thanksgiving feeding the homeless, and not brag about it. And part of her makeup is that Government has her best interests at heart, particularly a D government. Government tells her to get vaccinated. Therefore, she'll obey. Its sad that the D party my friend believes in, doesn't exist. Yet she cannot see that. Hers is an idealized version of the D party where everyone loves their fellow man & lives in peace and harmony, and government is always honest. Her identity is so wrapped in this idealized version of the D party, that nothing can break this bond.
There are people who are Rs for the same reason - lifelong indoctrination.
Even here many refuse to admit the uniparty is a thing.
I understand what you are trying to say here, but it is a morality issue. If it is true (that the vaxx harms people), then someone is immoral to support it (even if they 'identify' with a party).
So, yes, your friend may 'identify' a certain way, but the issue of morality is larger than the issue of identification.
Again....only my opinion.
...yet.
One of many things I'll never understand is the generational R/D voter, specifically democrat. They're the "my grandfather and father voted democrat, so I will too." They don't have an original thought in their head.
It's trying to convince someone their religion is wrong, because this IS a religion to them.
“Well why did they die of covid then?”
“They didn’t die of covid!”
“You can’t possibly know that unless they were being tested every day!”
Yeah, still wouldnt know, the tests produce 95+% false poitives
The sensitivity of the test were jacked up to 30%
It is fren... praying for you folks in NJ!
Property values will fall from all the houses on the market from all the "died suddenlys"!