"The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist"
Yes - this is how I came about my faith, thanks in part to this board and all the previous years in my life, going back to childhood.
I watched the entire video and I'm skeptical of JP for this single reason: how can you come to the conclusion God is real and does work in our lives, but don't acknowledge His Son? JP didn't mention faith in Jesus Christ the entire video. The video (outside of that huge truth) was good, minus the shilling for whatever product in the final minute. It's pointing people in the right direction at least, even if he's not factually correct about the most important truth.
John 14:6, ESV says: Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
@ u/BetterNameUnfound - not sure why you're nitpicking, but the answer is because God imprinted onto our hearts the Commandments. This is a summation of CS Lewis Mere Christianity: how you can logically reason the case for God.
Sometimes people choose to take a negative and reverse psychology it into a positive as has been accepted by us Christians for 2000 years. And yes history repeats itself as the DemoLibs have attempted to do the same. Good brining up this piece of history Anon. God bless you.
Yes, in fact a lot of spiritual life is like this low-key data connection that prompts here and there, introduces new thoughts and is just under normal consciousness. You can ignore it, or give it more priority in your mental awareness. That's where quiet time, prayer, worship and reading scripture can help remove distractions so you can dial that in. Much like callous skin, it takes time to get that removed so you can hear more clearly. It also requires regular maintenance. Early morning is a great time for this.
ditto & I think that's what JP also says toward the end. We know good because it's written in our hearts. And yes, I think even Hillary Clinton knows when something is evil. She just don't care.
Very simple yet brilliant observation… you are a light in the dark, but as the eternal law who is light has ruling over all other laws created. The darkness has no choice but to retreat in the presence of light. The brighter you shine, the longer the shadow you will cast. I’m proud to know you are among this great effort to awaken humanity. ❤️
I wish I could take credit, but it's not my line. I got it from Norman Geisler and Frank Turek in their excellent book "I Don't Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist."
Your logic is flawed because you assume that evil and good are different things. They are opposite polarity of the same vibrations. So you observe evil and use that as proof for Satan. And then you believe in God because you now believe Satan exist. There are many satans. Each and every soul has to overcome theirs. Hashatan as the Jews call it. Is nothing more than negative inclinations of man. Not a literal evil being looking to cause you to fail in order for God to judge you later. The judgement will come, and so does the afterlife, but not in the ways you think of heaven and hell. Nothing is for ever, except the all, and as a result, there is no final resting place for a soul other than being United once again with the all who is all. God is everything, and that is the only way a God can be eternal. We are him, and he is us… seek within as Jesus Christ told us. The kingdom of God is within.
We are not God. We are God’s creations. “A servant cannot be greater than their master” , I hear what your saying, but I would just stick with the Bible for education about these things. Some of what your saying is way out there.
When Jesus started to preach… his teachings were also, out there and different.. the difference is I understand what Jesus meant because I have the master key that unlocks all doors. When you have it you will see what I mean, understand, and hopefully use what you learn for good.
I think it's possible that these abstract concepts you point to are true while at the same time very definite & clear concepts are also true. SO you could say, like you said that good & evil are of the same substance but they are also entirely different substances, at the same time. So I don't think it's fair to say: "your logic is flawed" but rather you could say you look at things through another logic system. Why sow discord when you are both obviously on the same path?
Let me point out besides all the stuff JP says & all the things in the Bible & stuff, there's even things that people who must have been in the swamp would say. For instance David Bowie in his video "and the next day" said "They know God exists because the devil told them so"
He would know the swamp. For him to let that out does speak loudly that they see them as exact beings as well
I never said good and evil are the same and also different. I said they are the opposing poles of the same thing. What these two concepts are called is karma. There is the negative end and the positive end. Consider it to be like temperature. How hot does it have to get before it’s no longer cold? How cold does it have to get before it’s no longer hot? Some people think 70 degrees is just right, others think is too cold, and some think is still Hot for them.. all depends on what? What climate a person is accustomed to. Evil and good is no different. Is all perception, and what you deem too much of either end of the poles. There are fundamental laws how ever, and universal concepts of right and wrong, but these are vastly different than our human interpretations.
Satan is real. Evil is real. Thus, good, and therefore God, is real.
"The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist"
Yes - this is how I came about my faith, thanks in part to this board and all the previous years in my life, going back to childhood.
I watched the entire video and I'm skeptical of JP for this single reason: how can you come to the conclusion God is real and does work in our lives, but don't acknowledge His Son? JP didn't mention faith in Jesus Christ the entire video. The video (outside of that huge truth) was good, minus the shilling for whatever product in the final minute. It's pointing people in the right direction at least, even if he's not factually correct about the most important truth.
John 14:6, ESV says: Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
@ u/BetterNameUnfound - not sure why you're nitpicking, but the answer is because God imprinted onto our hearts the Commandments. This is a summation of CS Lewis Mere Christianity: how you can logically reason the case for God.
He mentioned Christ by saying he is a Christian, or, "follower of Christ."
The term Christian was originally coined by Romans as a derogatory remark for anyone who followed Jesus. As in, "there goes that > christian."
Sometimes people choose to take a negative and reverse psychology it into a positive as has been accepted by us Christians for 2000 years. And yes history repeats itself as the DemoLibs have attempted to do the same. Good brining up this piece of history Anon. God bless you.
Close.
How do we know what evil is unless we know what good is?
And how do we know what good is unless there is an objective standard of Good beyond ourselves?
I think intuition is really Spirit helping us. It is our moral compass. Prayer helps us to open to this angelic wisdom.
Yes, in fact a lot of spiritual life is like this low-key data connection that prompts here and there, introduces new thoughts and is just under normal consciousness. You can ignore it, or give it more priority in your mental awareness. That's where quiet time, prayer, worship and reading scripture can help remove distractions so you can dial that in. Much like callous skin, it takes time to get that removed so you can hear more clearly. It also requires regular maintenance. Early morning is a great time for this.
Yes! fully agree.
ditto & I think that's what JP also says toward the end. We know good because it's written in our hearts. And yes, I think even Hillary Clinton knows when something is evil. She just don't care.
Very simple yet brilliant observation… you are a light in the dark, but as the eternal law who is light has ruling over all other laws created. The darkness has no choice but to retreat in the presence of light. The brighter you shine, the longer the shadow you will cast. I’m proud to know you are among this great effort to awaken humanity. ❤️
I wish I could take credit, but it's not my line. I got it from Norman Geisler and Frank Turek in their excellent book "I Don't Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist."
Amen!
Your logic is flawed because you assume that evil and good are different things. They are opposite polarity of the same vibrations. So you observe evil and use that as proof for Satan. And then you believe in God because you now believe Satan exist. There are many satans. Each and every soul has to overcome theirs. Hashatan as the Jews call it. Is nothing more than negative inclinations of man. Not a literal evil being looking to cause you to fail in order for God to judge you later. The judgement will come, and so does the afterlife, but not in the ways you think of heaven and hell. Nothing is for ever, except the all, and as a result, there is no final resting place for a soul other than being United once again with the all who is all. God is everything, and that is the only way a God can be eternal. We are him, and he is us… seek within as Jesus Christ told us. The kingdom of God is within.
You have an uncanny ability to offend as well as convolute. I'm sure that is not your intention but I'm inclined to point it out.
Also, nothing you said is canonical with the Bible.
We are not God. We are God’s creations. “A servant cannot be greater than their master” , I hear what your saying, but I would just stick with the Bible for education about these things. Some of what your saying is way out there.
When Jesus started to preach… his teachings were also, out there and different.. the difference is I understand what Jesus meant because I have the master key that unlocks all doors. When you have it you will see what I mean, understand, and hopefully use what you learn for good.
I think it's possible that these abstract concepts you point to are true while at the same time very definite & clear concepts are also true. SO you could say, like you said that good & evil are of the same substance but they are also entirely different substances, at the same time. So I don't think it's fair to say: "your logic is flawed" but rather you could say you look at things through another logic system. Why sow discord when you are both obviously on the same path?
Let me point out besides all the stuff JP says & all the things in the Bible & stuff, there's even things that people who must have been in the swamp would say. For instance David Bowie in his video "and the next day" said "They know God exists because the devil told them so"
He would know the swamp. For him to let that out does speak loudly that they see them as exact beings as well
I never said good and evil are the same and also different. I said they are the opposing poles of the same thing. What these two concepts are called is karma. There is the negative end and the positive end. Consider it to be like temperature. How hot does it have to get before it’s no longer cold? How cold does it have to get before it’s no longer hot? Some people think 70 degrees is just right, others think is too cold, and some think is still Hot for them.. all depends on what? What climate a person is accustomed to. Evil and good is no different. Is all perception, and what you deem too much of either end of the poles. There are fundamental laws how ever, and universal concepts of right and wrong, but these are vastly different than our human interpretations.
How can their even be positive & negative karma if you consider your argument about it all being a matter of interpretation